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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: MrsKhan

I am extremely ignorant about cricket so correct me if I am wrong but on 19th March 2016 didn't Eden Gardens at Kolkata host a Indo-Pak match? Also from what tidbits I know BCCI was ready to host a bilateral series on behalf of Pakistan or send cricketers to play one subject to government clearance but finally didn't as Government didn't give clearance due to security reasons. Also there are many Pakistani commentators working in India whenever we host matches. So I am unaware of how it works and I am curious to know how BCCI is banning Pakistan.


Pakistan for years was banned from hosting any cricket playing nation after the attack on Sri Lanka. India has not played a bilateral series with them on our soil for years. the match you mentioned was organized by ICC as part of t-20 . We played them a match in 1999 too after Kargil for World Cup.

Yes there was discussions for a bilateral series but it got shut after Pathankot . IPL has not had a Pakistani player after the first 2 years.


Modi's speech is as rhetorical. The pressure on Govt is different. If we scream and demand that Pakistan be declared a terrorist country or a failed state, then we need to start by practicing it ourselves.

Govt cannot attack the terrorist camps- War
Govt cannot stop Indus - War

Then how does this Govt respond given the popular narrative in it's own country?

Anyone with an iota of an idea about the geographical challenges of Ind-Pak border would understand it's difficult to seal it off completely.


On Topic- It\s stupid to threaten the actors and it reflect badly on the country. But if ever Govt decides to stop all forms of communication with Pakistan or an exchange, it is entitled to do so. It will never stop terrorism but it will make the case against Pakistan .


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Posted: 9 years ago
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It's upto and only a Government's right to decide if it wants to have a cultural exchange with another country with which we are currently facing a war-like situation. As simple as that.

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Posted: 9 years ago
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This is just like Trump threatening to kick out all Mexicans.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: MrsKhan


I am extremely ignorant about cricket so correct me if I am wrong but on 19th March 2016 didn't Eden Gardens at Kolkata host a Indo-Pak match? Also from what tidbits I know BCCI was ready to host a bilateral series on behalf of Pakistan or send cricketers to play one subject to government clearance but finally didn't as Government didn't give clearance due to security reasons. Also there are many Pakistani commentators working in India whenever we host matches. So I am unaware of how it works and I am curious to know how BCCI is banning Pakistan.


Ind and Pak play only together in ICC organized matches only. They haven't played a full bilateral series from 2007 till now only a short series in ICC 2012 in India. Ind vs Pak cricket was subject to govt clearance at everytime for bilateral series.


BCCI didnt had any probs if Pak umpires or commentators working here at that time Bcci was aiming to solve situation btw the two... But after this attack n BCCI president comments now it has shutted the door for any bilateral matches.


Ongoing series of Ind vs NZ are full of Ind and NZ commies. Situation right now has gone from bad to worse n its now impossible to have series together now.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Ind and Pak play only together in ICC organized matches only. They haven't played a full bilateral series from 2007 till now only a short series in ICC 2012 in India. Ind vs Pak cricket was subject to govt clearance at everytime for bilateral series.


BCCI didnt had any probs if Pak umpires or commentators working here at that time Bcci was aiming to solve situation btw the two... But after this attack n BCCI president comments now it has shutted the door for any bilateral matches.


Ongoing series of Ind vs NZ are full of Ind and NZ commies. Situation right now has gone from bad to worse n its now impossible to have series together now.


Why are we even playing these matches organized by ICC. India can easily forfeit any match scheduled against Pakistan. What is the issue with that? Many times players forfeit matches due to injuries or other reasons. At times countries dont participate in tournaments too due to political reasons. Like USA during the peak of the Cold War didnt participate in Olympics being held at Moscow.
Now I know some smart alecs will saying I am trying to divert the topic but I am just trying to understand why there are two sets of standards for two professions.

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Posted: 9 years ago
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there was no paki player in 1st ipl also.

there is no need to threaten the actors. just make sure they dont get a job here.


Shoaib Akhtar was there in IPL1. Isnt he a Pakistani?

[YOUTUBE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiZhDdLAaqs[/YOUTUBE]
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: MrsKhan



Why are we even playing these matches organized by ICC. India can easily forfeit any match scheduled against Pakistan. What is the issue with that? Many times players forfeit matches due to injuries or other reasons. At times countries dont participate in tournaments too due to political reasons. Like USA during the peak of the Cold War didnt participate in Olympics being held at Moscow.
Now I know some smart alecs will saying I am trying to divert the topic but I am just trying to understand why there are two sets of standards for two professions.


@Bold- Peak cold war situation. While , when these matches were played or the whole cultural social exchange was happening, the diplomatic situation between the two nations was "soft". PM and Sharif both were talking at every level.

Also the incident you have mentioned, US issued a declaration If Soviet troops did not withdraw from Afghanistan within one month, the United States would boycott the Moscow Olympics in summer 1980. They both were at a war-like situation. The matches that India and Pakistan never had that backdrop . We were never fighting or moving across the border like US and Moscow did . Also US and USSR had many other competition across the timeline.

US went back to contesting with Russia and Soviet once the situation thawed..just like India and Pakistan continue to play the game. But if you think this is peak of Ind-Pakistan situation then , we shouldn't be playing them or entertaining cultural exchange?

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: charminggenie


Pakistan for years was banned from hosting any cricket playing nation after the attack on Sri Lanka. India has not played a bilateral series with them on our soil for years. the match you mentioned was organized by ICC as part of t-20 . We played them a match in 1999 too after Kargil for World Cup.

Yes there was discussions for a bilateral series but it got shut after Pathankot . IPL has not had a Pakistani player after the first 2 years.


Modi's speech is as rhetorical. The pressure on Govt is different. If we scream and demand that Pakistan be declared a terrorist country or a failed state, then we need to start by practicing it ourselves.

Govt cannot attack the terrorist camps- War
Govt cannot stop Indus - War

Then how does this Govt respond given the popular narrative in it's own country?

Anyone with an iota of an idea about the geographical challenges of Ind-Pak border would understand it's difficult to seal it off completely.


On Topic- It\s stupid to threaten the actors and it reflect badly on the country. But if ever Govt decides to stop all forms of communication with Pakistan or an exchange, it is entitled to do so. It will never stop terrorism but it will make the case against Pakistan .



And I appreciate what he said rather than fall for Twitter trends and polls declaring nuclear war. As a PM he has the responsibility of ensuring the well being of a billion people as compared to SM warriors voting for nuclear war. He has shown restrain as a statesman should.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: MrsKhan



Why are we even playing these matches organized by ICC. India can easily forfeit any match scheduled against Pakistan. What is the issue with that? Many times players forfeit matches due to injuries or other reasons. At times countries dont participate in tournaments too due to political reasons. Like USA during the peak of the Cold War didnt participate in Olympics being held at Moscow.
Now I know some smart alecs will saying I am trying to divert the topic but I am just trying to understand why there are two sets of standards for two professions.


In Olympics its an Nation decision purely to participate in it its same like bilateral series in cricket where u can opt out coz that's btw 2 countries series not ICC tournament.

And u can't say u can't play against Pak coz its ICC tournament n its the governing body of cricket u have to play and if you didn't you have to pay penalty for it. And this point of time there is doubt that Ind would participate in CT 2017 co of having some tiff with ICC. And ICC schedule those matches coz it earns them in million of dollars.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: MrsKhan


And I appreciate what he said rather than fall for Twitter trends and polls declaring nuclear war. As a PM he has the responsibility of ensuring the well being of a billion people as compared to SM warriors voting for nuclear war. He has shown restrain as a statesman should.


He or anyone else has no other option. If anyone has followed Modi's regime , they would know he has been soft . SM warriors are stupid, haven't we realized. The threat of war is serious and no Govt. wants that in this situation. Twitter trends and Polls , never influence the politics.

But diplomatically , he does need to make India's stand towards Pakistan more firm . You cannot wage war but you cannot continue with Aman ki Asha. Especially when at UN, India wanted World to declare Pak a terrorist state ( his policy).


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