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Posted: 9 years ago
#81

Originally posted by: .Rinnie.


I agree with you. Knowledge is utterly useless without the wisdom on how to apply that knowledge.
Which is why I doubt the impact it could have on society because people aren't so easily swayed by movies on such topics and it is not that we do not have any source of knowledge about mental illnesses. Its just that people do not want to search for it, think of it even if they knew of it and upon that is it not given any importance in education, I mean we all know about malaria, HIV, AIDS and the precautions to be taken but how many students are told about mental illness that are just as dangerous as these diseases.
Like the man in Dhrishyam, he had no proper education nor was he some mastermind but he took knowledge from whichever source it came through and adapted it despite the fact that in his life it might never be of any use.
People nowadays just do not have an open mind despite being the so called "educated and liberal" generation, they still stick to same old perception in some matters.


Completely agree with your point. As they say now a days everyone's an educated illiterate.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Divine-Pearl

I think we should let her rest in peace.

Few things are easier said than done. It's really easy to call someone weak but hard to not judge them.

Not trying to defend suicide, but it's not easy to take such drastic step. No one should go through such hopeless situations.

I wish she had consulted a psychiatrist, feel sad that young and precious life wasted.

Shit happens, break ups happens, but nothing is above life. If this is just matter of a young girl failed to handle rejection or break up, I think her bf should be blamed. If she was victim of abusive relationship or mental tourcher, guy should not be behind the bars.

I don't think ambitious girls like Jiah or Pratyusha would end their lives just because of a guy. There must be something more into it.

Anyways. RIP Pratyusha.



Errr .. i am not sure if i read it right , but reading it over n over doesn't help either .. 🤔

If you wrote what i think you wrote then i must say it is an extremely scary thought ..


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Rest In Peace Pratyusha Bannerjee .
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Posted: 9 years ago
#83

Originally posted by: .Rinnie.

Its quite understandable why you would think this way. Some may feel it was insensitive of you to say but I have heard far worse and your comment is the least insensitive in my opinion. I think that the reason why people cannot comprehend suicide being an option is either they have never been pushed to such a dark place in their life or they have gone through such depression and came out strong without any help. Such people usually think that suicide is an easy way out or something you can get over with strong will but sometimes, it takes a lot of courage to take a knife or hang a rope and prepare yourself to die by your own hands. It takes a lot of time to come to that decision (in a few cases, not much time) and for people who actually act on that, it's usually because at that moment and at that point, it seems like the best idea in their mind.

The reason why they think so is not because of problems in life nor because of lack of support, rather it's because psychologically they have an issue that needs professional help. Their not mentally ill or anything of that sort, they are just not able to handle the emotions or thoughts in their mind like other people. I have seen that people with depression are usually very deep and thoughtful, they think a lot over and over again unlike other people who just get depressed, talk to friends and get over it. They dwell on that thought constantly and no amount of support from friends or family can help them because their thoughts are something they cannot control which is why the need for medical help arises because these trained doctors know how to help them cope with their thoughts and the fact their getting advice from someone who is trained and knowledgeable about their condition will give the person a bit of security and assurance.

Just posting something, I posted on the other thread:
. I personally believe its not just support and happy thoughts that will help people in such situations. What they truly need is help from a trained professional who can diagnose and assure them that feeling depression is normal and can be easily treated. The problem is the stigma attached with seeking professional help, that going to a psychiatrist means your probably mental and doomed to end up in some strait jacket.
If proper attention and awareness was given in India regarding this, then many students all over the country wouldn't be taking the route of suicide to overcome their issues. People would know how to deal with their depression or suicidal thoughts by getting help.

You can't just laugh suicidal tendencies away or ignore them thinking it's not a serious issue, people who truly have contemplated suicide should seriously go and seek professional advice rather than advice from friends.
I say this because a close cousin of mine has been through similar depressive phase where all she could think of was negative thoughts, all she did was sit numbly or cry. She often phoned friends for advice, hoping their support would make her feel better but how much ever it did, it was only temporary until the next big problem came at her and she was back in her depressive mind set and contemplating suicide. I had suggested her to seek out a doctor's opinion but she was too unsure, she even asked her best friend about getting medical help and the reply of that friend was- "Don't be silly. Are you mentally ill? Don't you know going to psychiatrist means you are crazy. Your just going through a rough phase, forget about it."

This girl has tried to hang herself after that once, thankfully she couldn't manage to do it. Finally, after talking to her mom, she sought out help and has been slowly getting better.



The most sensible post in the thread so far ( at least from what i read in this thread - first 3 pages 😆 )..


I do agree with the OP barring the "mentally weak" comment .. i do think TM made a fair enough argument .. but going by the comments here on page 11 , i assume the forum moral high horses are already ripping apart TM's post .. not so "sensitive" anymore .. 😆.. which is why it is a relief to see the above quoted "non-judgmental" post .. :)
Edited by Quixotic-Frenzy - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
#84
It's absolutely beyond my understanding how suicide can be considered the easy way.
Are we really that cluess to not know if possible everyone wld wanna live a beautiful life.
That everyone wants to be happy, that everyone wld just ignore their problems if possible.
Suicide is NOT an answer to any problem but neither is judging.
Anyone who takes or thinks about taking their own life needs help, support and love.
Rich, poor, successful or unsuccessful it doesn't matter.
Yes, I got the point that media or even us shldn't encourage suicide and I don't think anyone is doing that.
But some of you need to understand or at least to understand that these people aren't thinking like you, you gotta have some compassion for your fellow human beings.
The TM cld've approach this matter differently but they didn't so everything they said just comes off as insensitive.
There's nothing easy about taking your own life or thinking about doing it till you got to it.
Yes, it's not big deal to some of us to have it tough but that doesn't mean everyone is the same.
If you have been through the same or worse and came out alive and strong good for you, more power to you.
But seriously how you think oh so they cldn't handle life and it's shit, there people who go through far more worse things happened to them and they didnt end up killing themseleves so I have no sympathy for anyone who does.
That's just not fair, depression is real and no matter how tiny the matter may seem to you don't expect the sameone from who's suffering depression.
These people can't help it I repeat they can't help their thinking, otherwise I promise you no one wants to be that miserable and feel that lonely and unwanted.
They don't need our judgement they need help and support and love.

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Posted: 9 years ago
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i don't feel like blaming someone or someone's thinking. clearly many people don't know about the power that your brain has over you. at your low times brain is an absolute enemy of yours. when your own brain is against you you have no control on things anymore. ask anyone who has gone through some severe psychological problems. yes later the same person will find how small that problem was like you who think they are mentally weak. but at that particular time...there is nothing. awareness about depression needs to be spread. people going through depression doesn't need sympathy or judgement, they need love, they need someone who can make them believe that everything is good and everything will be ok in the end.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Zeeliciousxo

I'm sorry what?? Mentally weak people will commit suicide whether it's because of one reason or another?? That completely disregards the toxic influence others can have on an individuals life.

It's easy for people who have never gone through depression to preach about suicide being the wrong answer to life blahblahblah (not directed specifically to the TM but to people in general right now).YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT STATE PEOPLE END UP IN WHEN THEY LITERALLY AND ACTUALLY FEEL THAT SUICIDE IS THE ONLY WAY OUT. I don't wish this illness upon anyone and yet those who have never gone through it absolutely should NOT pass judgements on people who have and unfortunately resorted to drastic measures.

Instead of trying to shame suicidal people focus on building an open and accepting/understanding community that wants to help prevent or treat depression/suicidal people!!!

FFS😡


I agree 100 % with whatever you said. Few years before, I was on the same bandwagon that says suicide just goes on to show their weakness and all that blah blah. Only after having suffered borderline depression, I actually understood how their minds work during tough times. There is a long long way ahead for Indians to even acknowledge and accept depression let alone providing support and help to the people suffering from depression.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: -cuteee.tigress

Yes, 3 times, but then I started taking medication for my anxiety and stopped living in the past. I surrounded myself with positive, good people and feel so much better now..the suicidal thoughts have not come into my mind since 2 months so it's a progress. :)

I really really like you too 🤗 thank you very much, God bless you!

😲I missed your post totally..I am glad you are getting better.please take care and stay positive and focus on good things in life🤗you are a very sweet member😳
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Posted: 9 years ago
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I agree with you. People who are suffering from Depression cannot control their thought process. I could not do it for a long time. What people do not understand its the complete apathy of others that causes depression. When your request for help fells on deaf ears constantly, you tend to loose complete trust on people around you. Plus add the taunts and jeers you receive from others for being weak. In these cases people do commit suicide.

You are doing a great job dear. It feels really great when someone understands you without judgement. Keep up with your work. I am trying to spread awareness about depression.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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