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Posted: 9 years ago
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@Haso: Yes she was & my point wasn't even what is true or false/ It is just that if someone of her stature would come forward & talk about this, it would go a long way in spreading awareness. That is the end goal.


It's terrible to see the comments & mindset of a lot of members here. Just goes to show that so many people are not only ignorant & un-educated, but insensitive & borderline heartless. That is the main cause of worry.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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I agree that there shouldnt be media trial as it happens in cases like this(and every other case). let the police investigate the matter first and come to a conclusion.
Actually in cases like this where someone was in an abusive relationship and it was well known by her friends and family I will hold the family especially parents most responsible. I am not in a position to judge but I dont get why women continue in such relationships.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: .Hajmola.

I agree that there shouldnt be media trial as it happens in cases like this(and every other case). let the police investigate the matter first and come to a conclusion.

Actually in cases like this where someone was in an abusive relationship and it was well known by her friends and family I will hold the family especially parents most responsible. I am not in a position to judge but I dont get why women continue in such relationships.

sahi kaha , maa baap jhak maar rahe the kya 😡 , apni beti ko waise launde se bachane ka try bhi nahi kia ,shayad FIR tak hone wala tha and even then they were cooling their heels
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Mallika-E-Bhais

@Haso: Yes she was & my point wasn't even what is true or false/ It is just that if someone of her stature would come forward & talk about this, it would go a long way in spreading awareness. That is the end goal.


It's terrible to see the comments & mindset of a lot of members here. Just goes to show that so many people are not only ignorant & un-educated, but insensitive & borderline heartless. That is the main cause of worry.

actually what u are saying is the sad reality of the society we are living in and govt is not doing anything to increase awareness specially among the people who are not that well educated or do not do that well financially . Even the psychiatrists are charging hefty amount which is making the treatment (which is not really there ) out of reach of most of the people
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Posted: 9 years ago
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I have been following this thread and it's quite interesting the different opinions people have on this issue so I felt like posting on the current discussion. I have personally been on both sides of this, the side where I gave unconditional support and encouragement and the side where I put my foot down and gave tough love. What everyone needs to understand is depression varies from person to person, it's not the same situation for everyone. Not every depressed person out there had a traumatic life or utter lack of support, love and at the same time, not every depressed person out there is mentally weak and a coward for not being able to handle it. I have seen people who wanted to kill themselves over some really silly things like not getting something they want or their favourite star did something they didn't approve of. In such situation, tough love is what is needed for the people because support won't get you anywhere.

In most cases in India, as I said before, getting help for mental health has a stigma attached to it and is looked down upon thus not many show support to helping a person like this. But I have also seen families who have given unconditional support and encouragement to make their loved one better yet the person still wouldn't get any better, no matter how much they tried it just didnt help. Depression is not always about lack of emotional support or problems, the person could have everything they wanted in life and still be depressed, in such cases you cannot blame anyone at all so it's better not to judge the family or friends because having a loved one suffering from a mental illness can be very stressful on the family as well. I have personally experienced being depressed and seeing a loved one going through severe bipolar depression and seen it happen to others, they try all that they can to help a person who is depressed or having a mental disorder but nothing seems to ever be good enough to stop them from contemplating suicide and ultimately the person who tries to support ends up feeling emotionally and mentally drained themselves.

Due to this some people end up having a mindset that depressed people are taking an easy way out when they have all the things they could possibly need and in some cases people just dont understand why they allow difficult problems to pull them in the route of suicide when others have managed to overcome it. The thing that these people need to understand is that a person suffering from depression has very different mind set than us who do not have depression, to give an example Depression is like the common cold of mental illnesses, You can be the most healthiest person in the world and still get a cold that will never leave until you take some action to cure your cold. Depression is the same, there maybe a reason or there may not, but it wont go away until and unless help is given or taken.

Which is why it's not a good idea to blame the person with depression or the people around them without knowing the whole story, rather it's better to spread awareness about it without being judgemental. In India, it's gonna take a long while for this happen because pretty much 90% don't consider depression an actual illness to be taken seriously thus the charges of doctors are high too so it's upto the govt and we, the people to educate others on this topic.

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Posted: 9 years ago
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@A: Nope. Education sadly doesn't have much to do with it. I've seen the most well educated people spout such regressive & ignorant heartless nonsense, it has thane my breath away. Hate all these so called educated tripe. Sadly, people in India & even abroad will never understand that education is no cure for no dumbness & heartlessness. 😡
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Mallika-E-Bhais

@A: Nope. Education sadly doesn't have much to do with it. I've seen the most well educated people spout such regressive & ignorant heartless nonsense, it has thane my breath away. Hate all these so called educated tripe. Sadly, people in India & even abroad will never understand that education is no cure for no dumbness & heartlessness. 😡


This isn't related to the topic of suicide or depression but it's a coincidence that I just watched the movie Dhrishyam and your post regarding educated people suits that movie so very well, how a man with no education could so much more for his family and others than people with such high intellect and education.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: .Rinnie.


This isn't related to the topic of suicide or depression but it's a coincidence that I just watched the movie Dhrishyam and your post regarding educated people suits that movie so very well, how a man with no education could so much more for his family and others than people with such high intellect and education.


The man in Drishyam had knowledge and wisdom, all thanks to the mystery thrillers movies he was addicted to. He had a source of knowledge, where he could learn about several things. Only if we have some movies about mental illness then it may also have some impact on the society just like those thrillers did on the lead of Drishyam
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Originally posted by: awkardpyscho


The man in Drishyam has knowledge and wisdom, all thanks to the mystery thrillers movies he was addicted to. He had a source of knowledge, where he could learn about several things. Only if we have some movies about mental illness then it may also have some impact on the society just like those thrillers did on the lead of Drishyam


I agree with you. Knowledge is utterly useless without the wisdom on how to apply that knowledge.
Which is why I doubt the impact it could have on society because people aren't so easily swayed by movies on such topics and it is not that we do not have any source of knowledge about mental illnesses. Its just that people do not want to search for it, think of it even if they knew of it and upon that is it not given any importance in education, I mean we all know about malaria, HIV, AIDS and the precautions to be taken but how many students are told about mental illness that are just as dangerous as these diseases.
Like the man in Dhrishyam, he had no proper education nor was he some mastermind but he took knowledge from whichever source it came through and adapted it despite the fact that in his life it might never be of any use.
People nowadays just do not have an open mind despite being the so called "educated and liberal" generation, they still stick to same old perception in some matters.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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@Rinnie: And Indians in particular will never understand that. Education is a platform to enhance your life & is of extreme importance but it is no way a deciding factor on anyone's intelligence. Intelligence & intellect are very different anyway. Sadly Indians will never understand any of this.

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