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Muktchand

@Muktchand

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Posted: 11 years ago

#11

Well fine Anandi was wrong for hiding truth about DB at least she shd have told to rest of KB...Alok Ira Anup Meenu...

I think Anandi Shiv are wrong then Daddu is bigger culprit...he never took strong stand against DB... at once he took stand DB fooled him rest by faking it...Daddu back to square one meri Subhi...

Before Anandi Shiv finding truth abt About DB...Daddu clearly told Anandi he knew his dearest Subhi is difficult person bitter but he love her so much as she suffered so much...he always choose to let it go ..its like Subhi toh isse hee hain...bass...

Daddu doing same thing with Anup ...He has suffered so much he was alone yeh woh balh balh...

even if Anandi expose DB rest of KB knew including Daddu DB surely remain same...Anup surely trap by her too...

Anup's problem is his own insecurity, inferiority complex when Alok impulsively accuse him in front off all it hit him hard...

I think Alok's impulsive nature Anup's insecure attitude added by DB's fueling and Daddu over fav on Anup resulted this

in Anup case DB is not sole reason...nah...he listen her becoz in his mind similar thoughts were roaming she just put in words without DB he would act same way...

Like Anandi Shiv too had no choice...becoz Daddu didn't gave them so Daddu over fav on DB Anup makes AnSh emotional fool...

Edited by blushing - 11 years ago

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tellygeek

@tellygeek

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Posted: 11 years ago

#12

Originally posted by: blushing

Anup's problem is his own insecurity, inferiority complex when Alok impulsively accuse him in front off all it hit him hard...

I think Alok's impulsive nature Anup's insecure attitude added by DB's fueling and Daddu over fav on Anup resulted this

in Anup case DB is not sole reason...nah...he listen her becoz in his mind similar thoughts were roaming she just put in words without DB he would act same way...

Like Anandi Shiv too had no choice...becoz Daddu didn't gave them so Daddu over fav on DB Anup makes AnSh emotional fool...

@bold, To add, Anoop was just looking for an opportunity to claim Shiv as his son and he got it yesterday. This was waiting to happen.

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Muktchand

@Muktchand

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Posted: 11 years ago

#13

Anup had grunge against Alok as he feels due to Alok he ended up being looser...

for Anup Anandi is just weapon or medium to give it back to Alok ...

yes using Anandi & Bhaili is surely DB's idea...but Anup accept this becoz Anandi is his own son's wife...he can rule over them...so even if DB won't suggest he would ended using Anandi Bhaili for sure...

I am sure when DB expose Anup blames her DB surely said same thing why he listen to her becoz he also wish do so... DB will surely say I instigate Ira Meenu rest of gang neither of them fall why you...becoz its ur wish too...this is truth...

Anup's hatred towards Alok makes things difficult for AnSh ...added alok's impulsive nature too...

Now Anup will feel victorious as he get back his son from his brother... Anup dislike fact Anandi Alok share bond... soon he will try to dominate Anandi Amol and Shiv too...

I think when Anup will cross his path with DC Shiv it will be firecrackers ... Son Shiv might be emotional or weak by family but DC Shiv won't... all this drama of calling Papa end result Shiv vs Anup foundation...

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Missesha

@Missesha

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Posted: 11 years ago

#14

I think Shiv is wrong in giving into Anoop's demands. While his intention was noble and it is him who will be suffering at the end of all this, agreeing to Anoop's demands was not a wise step.

Shiv's ultimate intention was to stop family from dividing, but he will end up doing the same. By hurting Ira and Alok constantly, he will not be able to keep the family intact.

Shiv was caught in a tough situation and was thinking emotionally, but ideally he should have not given in. Shiv realises that Anoop in wrongly black-mailing him, and therefore he should not have honoured that. Because if Anoop can bully him today, he will bully him further and everyday making everyone's life a living hell.

Daddu being the head of the family, could not take the right steps.

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Muktchand

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Posted: 11 years ago

#15

@ esha wahi toh ...lets see how long Anup keep bullying Shiv Anandi

i am sure its for DC Shiv clashes with Anup ... Anup will be day dreaming that his son is with him...tadah...

As Shiv already makes it clear his family is imp but for his ethics are more imp

Daddu ...well I feel Daddu thinks just providing all things whether its wrong accepting all demands of Anup will make him normal ...as Anup wanted to prove himself... Anandi don't need to prove anything...neither Alok...

But Daddu is wrong here...keep obeying Anup's unreasonable demand won;t makes him normal...he will be more aggressive more demanding

I think today when Daddu sees how Anup blackmail Shiv & for Daddu sake Shiv obeys Anup...that will hit hard to Daddu... his fav causing Shiv Alok Ira badly...

Daddu's over love fav towards Anup shd be decreased after this...

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tellygeek

@tellygeek

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Posted: 11 years ago

#16

Esha , Shiv should have in return emotionally blackmailed Anoop and rather placed him on a pedestal to take a decision. But Shiv being a straightforward guy, such things are beyond him.

I do foresee a heart-rendering outburst from Shiv soon.

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anshurg5

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Posted: 11 years ago

#17

Is Shiv wrong to let himself arm twisted by Anoop to call him papa for the sake of Daddu?

IMO yes he is . Yes Daddu is kind of EBed him to take this decision but still a person like Shiv should see beyond the obvious and take his own decision.

Even if we consider Daddu's health ( though I think he has suffered many set backs in the recent past like Sanchi's engagement breaking , her exposure , her rape but was able to sail through all these. This time too he would have become reasonably well after initial hiccups.) Shiv agreeing to Anoop's demand is not going to help much for long time . Anoop will find other issues to create troubles and to show his superiority as he is now beyond any emotions for any one including his father and son both.

As a mature person I wanted Shiv to take his decision taking in account all the repercussions his decision has on the family.He has seen that giving free pass to Anoop regarding Bhaili files did not helped the matter instead embolden him further and now he is not only doing everything openly but rubbing it on the face of already shattered Anandi. Coz he knew nobody is going to confront him and if Alok makes some noise toh he is not emotionally attached to him now to get affected by his opposition.

He care only a bit about his father and his son and both of them kept quite so he was roaming like a king in the house. Shiv acquiescing to Anoop's demands has given him a tool to arm twist him to concede to his future demands.

We all know that DB's final agenda is to destroy Anandi so she will not stop now and will try to influence Anoop regarding her whom he already dislike. She will fuel this dislike into hatred and Anoop can perceive any imaginary insult from Anandi and next can demand from Shiv that either you leave her or he will leave the house. What will Shiv do then for the sake of keeping his family united?

So it is always better to nip the problem in budding stage that let it grow to become unmanageable.

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As for Anandi keeping the truth about DB to herself , yes she was wrong in that but even if she has told her family about it , Daddu would not have thrown her out of KB as she would have said she did that just to make the family happy. At most she would have got some scolding and would have still doing same as Anoop himself was in favour of Ansh biological child.

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rohini55

@rohini55

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Posted: 11 years ago

#18

Esha, agree with you. Both Anandi and Shiv have made things worse for themselves and the family by appeasing DB and Anoop respectively.

Shiv knew DB had harmed A intentionally. No one who wanted good for their bahu would continue feeding her drugs knowing how badly she was reacting to them. Instead she taunted Anandi for her behaviour and tried to influence the family against her. Putting two and two together should have been easy enough. Shiv should not have abandoned the search for the drug peddler and Ansh should have at least told Alok and Ira. This would have alerted Ira who already suspected DB to keep a watch on her.

The surprising thing is Ansh never kept DB under watch. Had they done so they might have found out she was instigating Anoop. Now when A
Anandi finds out, she will be shocked but in fact she had it coming given her stubborn refusal to act against her or at least keep her under watch.

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anshurg5

@anshurg5

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Posted: 11 years ago

#19

Years ago Meenu and Alok did a wrong by taking a unilateral decision without consulting Shiv's emotion ( though he was too young at that time for that) , Y/day Shiv did the same , took a decision unilaterally without consulting with his parents or almost without caring for their emotions. All he had in mind was Daddu and his united family.

Yes, his love for them may not be lessen by calling them bade papa aur badi maa and vice versa but still it will hurt them also.

Suppose Sanchi after coming out Shiv's birth secret have demanded from her parents that since she was the only biological child of her parents so either they should disown Shiv as their son or she would leave the house and her parent accepted her demands in the name of well being of their daughter and keeping their family united acquiesced to her demands , would that have their right decision? Would Shiv not have become shattered despite knowing that his parents took this decision under pressure?

Btw in all this I am much disappointed with Daddu , he is becoming modern day Bheeshma Pitamah who overlooks Kauravas unethical demands and their ways of achieving those and became a tool to hurt Pandavas in the name of keeping family united.

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Missesha

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Posted: 11 years ago

#20

Originally posted by: anshurg5

As for Anandi keeping the truth about DB to herself , yes she was wrong in that but even if she has told her family about it , Daddu would not have thrown her out of KB as she would have said she did that just to make the family happy. At most she would have got some scolding and would have still doing same as Anoop himself was in favour of Ansh biological child.

Agree with your analysis on Shiv's behaviour. Well said.

As for bold, it is immaterial whether Daddu throws DB out or not. What was important is to make the family aware that DB can interfere in anyone's life ruthlessly. The family would have got lot more conscious regarding DB and probably found it easy to connect that Anoop is being instigated by DB (apart from his own inherent weakness)

By hiding, Anandi never allowed the family to see the extent to which DB can go. They all often confront her but end up thinking that DB's behaviour is a result of conventional mind-set and let her go. Had they been made aware that despite seeing Anandi is fragile condition, DB did not stop giving those so-called pregnancy medicines to A, but rather put her down ruthlessly whenever A made a mistake, the Shekhars would not have taken DB lightly and probably handled Anoop more tactfully.

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The reason Hardik left DB was, he realised that what his parents told him about DB was not wrong. That she is a home-breaker. The reason he could come to this conclusion is because he was already aware of her antics, he just needed to see it with his own eyes. It was easier for him to connect the dots.

Shekhars are not in Hardik's position and that's why cannot see why Anoop suddenly has so much of rage.

Only if Anandi had exposed DB, things would have definitely been different.

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Anyways, lets see what unfolds. Daddu is no less to be blamed. If anything, he is more responsible for this than others.

Edited by Missesha - 11 years ago