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Posted: 11 years ago
#41
Nobody is concerned about the woman. Its the child's trauma that people are talking about.

Btw, if we go by the logic of "nothing would happen, why do it" (as in the case of Anandi's not exposing DB), then nobody should complain against any influencial criminal because the police would do nothing. "No use" is not an excuse to not expose a crime.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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The child's trauma? Shouldn't people feel sorry for the child he has that kind of a woman as mother?A woman who can be so violent with helpless child what guarantee is there that she wouldn't get violent against her son?Her child is also as defenceless as the bonded labour in moments of frustration she could very well batter that child.

The issue there is callousness this couple displayed towards a small child and that child has been taken care of by Anandi and the couple's child obviously beomes the responsibility of the govt officials after all even the collector of Udaipur directly involved in handling this case so why is it so difficult to figure out what has happened to that woman's child?
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Anandi did keep quiet about DB she made sure that she wouldn't trouble her again.Why should Anandi Shiv have any reason to suspect that she would do something like that again to Anandi when she runs away every time she sees the couple?
Audience got to hear a plenty of her self talk did Anandi Shiv hear that? Can anyone suspect what she is upto going by her behaviour now?
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Posted: 11 years ago
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The question is not about what Anandi does not know, the question is of exposing what she knows. That's where the logic of "nothing would've happened" comes in.

And btw, why should we not feel sorry for Daddu owing to the sister he has? What guarantee is there that DB won't harm others the same way she tried to harm Anandi? Even if she (according to people) had not shown any inclination to harm people other than A, what guarantee is there that she won't in the future? (on the lines of "what if the child-labour employing woman would've hurt and battered her own child")
Edited by krystal_watz - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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DB lives with them and they have seen her.
The lady was harsh towards Amol and used harsh methods to discipline the boy when she though he stepped out of line.Anandi and Shiv stepped in and made it very clear to her that it is not acceptable.After that did she do anything to Amol? Instead now they seem to live quite peacefully together
Did DB do anything to anyone else other than Anandi?Even with Anandi do they have a clear idea whether she did give that drug with an intention to harm her or like she said she gave it because she wanted her to have a child?Anandi has only the lady's words to go by.Does she have a proof?
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She taunts people but so many family members who are living together do we get rid of family members who have only negative things to say? Don't we put up with those family members?
The fact is there is nothing to suggest that DB intends to harm the family going by her behaviour towards the family members.
Her intentions have not been exposed and she has not indulged in any questionable activities barring giving that drug to Anandi.
What viewers know about DB Anandi Shiv don't know yet and why can't they wait and watch instead of sitting and judging Anandi's actions even before she got to know what the lady is upto?
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Coming to that lady and her son it is the duty of the police to see to that thelvady's son is taken care of and not Anandi's Anandi took responsibility to act on behalf the girl Jyothi as a social worker.
Edited by aparnauma - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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While watching the show and seeing DB in action and listening to her monologues people make up their minds that Anandi did wrong when Anandi had even less evidence against DB than Shiv has against Anop and yet people find what Shiv did is acceptable and what Anandi did is unacceptable it is nothing but bias against a character
I am out of here.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#46

Originally posted by: krystal_watz

The question is not about what Anandi does not know, the question is of exposing what she knows. That's where the logic of "nothing would've happened" comes in.

And btw, why should we not feel sorry for Daddu owing to the sister he has? What guarantee is there that DB won't harm others the same way she tried to harm Anandi? Even if she (according to people) had not shown any inclination to harm people other than A, what guarantee is there that she won't in the future? (on the lines of "what if the child-labour employing woman would've hurt and battered her own child")


@ Bold: so well said. There is no guarantee that a person who has wrong done today, will not do wrong in future. The right thing Anandi should have done is to expose DB. Whatever happens next is not up to her, but she should have done her bit.

When a child makes a severe mistake, his parents punish him. Because that is the right thing to do. Not because they don't know what will be 'its use'

Thanks, to Anandi's snail-paced learning capacity and ability to give umpteen chances to anyone who is family; Daddu had to watch a family breaking and undergo a heart attack.

Anandi has suffered and witnessed several instances where DB has harmed Amol, Saanchi, Shiv, Gulli and just recently made a mockery of Anandi in front of Anoop (when Anandi did not serve lunch to Anoop). All these incidents put together also does not make Anandi realise that if DB was really and genuinely a caring lady, she wouldn't be creating mess in their lives.

I still don't get what stops Anandi from exposing people who are family.

Anandi didn't want to upset Daddu initially, but by keeping quiet she eventually contributed to Daddu getting a heart-attack. Just as she contributed to Jagya getting into the courts for SaJa and Saanchi being raped. Had she done her bits initially a lot would have been different.

Anandi's learning techniques cost people their lives, honour and relationships.

Anoop is a weak mind, but it is DB who is instigating so much and so badly that Anoop is not even getting a chance to think.

Thank you Anandi for not doing your bit and allowing a snake to feed. Now you will have a bigger mission to re-unite the family and one more chance to forgive DB and Anoop. And finally you will be the star bahu of the millennium. Everyone in the show will praise her for her qualities and we will have more Anandi clones coming up.


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Posted: 11 years ago
#47

Originally posted by: aparnauma

While watching the show and seeing DB in action and listening to her monologues people make up their minds that Anandi did wrong when Anandi had even less evidence against DB than Shiv has against Anop and yet people find what Shiv did is acceptable and what Anandi did is unacceptable it is nothing but bias against a character
I am out of here.

Aparna, even if we ignore monologues there are somethings we can clearly see which Anandi does not want to see just because someone is a family.

Even if Anandi believed that DB was genuinely giving pregnancy medicines to A, why didn't she (DB) stop on realising that Anandi is facing side effects like forgetting stuff, leaving gas on etc.

Rather DB was the first one to humiliate Anandi - to the extent she woke her (A) from sleep in front of full family and taunted. This action does not require A to listen to DB's monologues. DB's actions are enough to reflect on her mentality. Or did Anandi want to get more harmed so that she could collect evidence against DB?

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DB purposely hid Hardik's shirt and made it a point to humiliate Gulli. Even this incident does not require monologues. It's a clear indication of how DB can manipulate. Is that behaviour not alarming enough for Anandi about a person's character and thought process? Or was Anandi waiting for even Ira-alok and Meenu to be harmed before she could conclude that DB is evil.

No one else knew that DB hid Hardik's shirt accept Anandi.

DB already created chaos for Shiv, Amol and Saanchi. Half the family was already tormented by DB, plus those initial demands on how bahus should behave.

All these incidents do no require Anandi to hear DB's monologues to conclude anything about her.

Even if normal people were just watching DB's actions and not her monologues, it is quite evident that DB is not as nice as she pretends to be. And therefore if DB made an attempt which almost costed Anandi her life, then it is no rocket science for Anandi to figure out that DB is dangerous.

Edited by Missesha - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#48
If people wait for perfect moment where the criminal is sure to be punished - they will do more harm to more people. There cannot be a perfect moment - the crime should be reported as and when one gets to know about it. Hiding drugging episodes was too bad - it would have been none of Anandi/Shiv's fault if daddu or other family members did not believe that DB was doing all this to harm Anandi. Hiding a crime increases confidence of the criminal (even in real life - the serial offenders get bolder because they got no punishment previously).
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Posted: 11 years ago
#49
Agree with Esha that there was enough and more evidence against DB for Ansh to be seriously concerned. The attacks on Amol. Nearly killing Anandi by drugging her. Refusing to stop drugs even after the terrible side effects. Making out that A was mentally deranged; abusing her and calling her a Maharani and insulting her in front of family. Trying to stop Gulli-Hardhik wedding. Threatening to separate the couple. Blaming Gulli and shaming her in front of family. Hardhik telling Ansh he was leaving because of her. Causing disruption in Saanchi's life. Continuing to be nasty to Saanchi in front of her parents.

These are signs that the person is destructive not just that she is regressive. Ok she stopped hurting Amol but started attacking Anandi.

Daddu had a right to know what his sis was up to.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I wonder if Anandi would get Saanchi arrested if she was found mistreating a minor help. We know the answer don't we?

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