Anandi's journey to Shiv ,DS, jagat and BV - Page 4

@

As usual anjana u've hit the nail on the head where the question of TRPs etc is concerned . The way TRPs are run , some of our not watching the shows is not going to have much impact - and ballots, voting etc come with all the pressures of populism and catering to stereotypes which become part of a mainstream public discourse which we often accept as popular opinion without questioning . Often reality is far more complex and surprising and people are able to relate to more radical, progressive scripts far more than we think.
Internet has also provided a way of registering our opinions in ways other than questionable TRPs and it was my growing disgust with serials - which i might not watch but whose images i could not escape - also watching people spend hours on these often not because they like them but because they have no alternatives - i find reactions to k serials by even their most avid watchers are far more mixed, jaded and far less credulous than we believe. Still they are a part of a larger discourse which comes to shape public morality . Hence sometimes more progressive discussions - even if by a minority - do atleast register a difference of opinion in public spaces. And some writers of more nuanced serials like BV often pick up the cues from these too as u say 😊

For me the best female leqd was Suhana from Sasural genda fool. I loved her .

Originally posted by: AnjanaYYZ

Aparna

- I don't know your level of knowledge about the Indian Television Industry...I don't want to presume either way. I learnt a little bit during my campaign against NDTV Imagine a few years back. This forum has people like Jyoti (one of the global moderators), who genuinely know a lot more.

- Anyway NDTV Imagine is now suing the TRP people for their ineptitude. I don't know what exactly the allegations. I certainly have no access to the court papers...then again i have not tried to track it down.

- However, on this I do agree with NDTV Imagine. India's TRP system is a JOKE. In a country of Billion plus their representative sample is 5000 - 6000 households🤔 Those 5000 households impact AD revenues of TV Channels and in turn production houses...actors, directors, etc.

- On a more personal level you may turn of your television set when don't appreciate the content... but, do you matter in India? NOT unless you are one of the 5000 chosen households restricted to a few metros in India.

- Lastly while my knowledge of statics is admittedly shallow (one of my less stellar subjects in undergrad) but, I would not want to base my AD purchasing decision on such a small sample if I were an Indian Biz Executive...but, sadly I would have no other alternative.

- Even assuming TRPs r reliable... we ve chicken and egg story... whether people emulate the ideals depicted on screen or whether the screen reflects Indian reality.

I need to now divide my post into 2 parts. One for addressing A's journey and the other one for TRP.

Now for TRPs. I really think TRPs are a skewed game here.

Oops...Forgot to add this.

yeah i agree . There was a point of time when k serials had come to rule the roost in a way that you go to any urban middle class family , it would be almost the same story - people glued to the screen by a kind of repelled fascination for the bizarre sagas unfolding in front of them...and slowly surreal women so well described by rohini just taking over the small screen ...i think things are changing a little slowly with a new set of dramas including BV which are able to generate more TRPs also...

Since we are reminiscing , my favourites go back to almost dd metro times ...grew up with buniyaad, humlog, yeh jo hai zindagi etc which are brillliant compared to today's standards ...but then there were many others- both progressive and light hearted - kashti, dard, kshitij ke us aur, thoda sa aasman, tanha, kashish, kabhi kabhi...a far more complex one on adultery called hasratein ...even comedies like dekh bhai dekh, zamana badal gaya hai, offbeat ones like himalaya darshan ...i dont know when the tide changed and we were swamped by long soaps and ekta kapoor brands in our living rooms...

@Lavy - love your posts and agree with all of them. Will reply to your PM later.

Originally posted by: sarandha

Lastly anandi's behaviour ' I agree a lot of it is natural ' fb's when ceremonies that she underwent earlier are repeated , her jadedness , her feeling low and her fear of going thru it all again . But I still think that they could have send these signals more clearly ' because a lot of people have taken them as proof of the fact that she still hasn't moved on ' which is inconsistent with the strong character she's shown to be who as rohini wrote, gave that calm ,beautiful parting speech on her divorce to jagiya about her having moved on , who tore him apart for coming with bhabut on her mother's death ' but who tearfully cries and says she'll try and forget jagiya to bhairon , even her fb's ' I agree with ankit who said its natural to think of earlier times when the same thing happened to you , I don't agree that those memories would not be tempered by abuses and trauma of that relationship which surely foregrounds those associations 'u cannot think of them in isolation when u revisit them because how u associate with them ' how painful or bittersweet they are is constantly negotiated by the reality of present. And it has been seven years now after merely 6 months of adult courtship after all!

However I feel there is also another explanation of her being curt with shiv at times ' this is an anandi who's been traditionally brought up in ways that they still have a powerful impact on her pshyche , its also an anandi attracted to shiv , and also an anadi who's been deeply hurt in the past ' the contradictions within her due to all these things ' an attraction battling with the impact of tradition with the fear of rejection ' are making her behave in these ways. However I feel her deepening admiration of shiv, her inherent ability to appreciate others and be strong in dealing with adversities, her attraction for shiv ' will all lead her to realize that he's a soulmate in the true sense for her ' with some help and understanding and unconditional love from shiv. I just wish CV writer develop this romance in a way that it also becomes the pinnacle of anandi's journey of self realization, acceptance and acknowledgement of her individuality, her sexuality and her being .