BP's last track - A critique.

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Rozz

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Posted: 14 years ago

#11

agree to you guys ..

after dv amoli marriage , the whole revenge track was not good in my pov , amoli should hav done way more so that her ruthless equation could match with dv's 😆 and it would have brought more drama element.

I hate mr.softy avatar of dv so much that i didn't watch the last epi still , dv going jail for amoli for 5 yrs , serial ending suddenly putt me off... 😡

last track was worst , before this , whole serial made a good sense , dv 's character was intact , and so was amoli's but then cvs butchered it 😡

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Jaded

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Posted: 14 years ago

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@Leelaa....awesome stuff👏 u have put everything eloquently which i prolly cannot.

i am extremely turned off by the ending....it was terrible...i dont have a problem with DV going to jail for Amoli...he would have..coz thats the extent of his madness/passion/obssession for her....but why wasnt he acting as himself...during the Puneet fiasco??....why was Radhey alive?....By murdering Radhey DV became the ultimate Crazy Deewana in love and i loved it absolutely........it defied convention, it defied society and most of all it challenged morallity.......it Amoli the queen Morallity....her falling in love with him was paradoxical wasnt it??.......he tried soo many things...it didnt work...all he had to do was turn into a lamb or Bheegi Billi as i like to call him and present himself as a victim....somebody she can justify herself to be with...and voila she started melting.......but then the last track......urgh it just didnt make sense.....i wanted to actually continue with Amolis revenge for Radhey's death.....i really loved their constant fighting and i would have loved to see her fall for him despite her better judgement...i wanted to see not just a fight between Amoli and Devil but a fight within Amoli as well....her Love against her superego....they could have used Stockholm syndrome as well.....they were soo many things they could have explored but they didnt...they chose to pleased the Moral Judges of the soapdom...and killed one of the most complex character in the soap world

sorry people for ranting so much...but i have been smarting over it for a long time now...so yea

~Sin~

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Rozz

@missbubbly04

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Posted: 14 years ago

#13

@sin .... glad to see u here ..

and i agree with you but u know , i really didn't like , him going to jail for 5 damn years , it could have been a lil short naa , like 2 years 😆 actually i hate mai's leap theory and i was happy about one thing that atleast her one serial will end without any leap but darn!!! mai can't help herself !!

I don't know why audience can't take fiction as fiction , i mean who gets inspired by them . we all love stalker DV but in real life , we get pissed off if we are being stalked. that is the difference b/w reel and real life. all the time ppl cry for different stories and when they get one , they start crying for morals and ethics. I so wish , the concept of bairi piya was used by western telly.

and agree about the fact that , last track sucked. here cvs lost the whole story . why didn't they get that mr.softy is a big no no for fans. it would hav been great , amol's battle between her ego and her love for devil . it could hav been lotsa fun

but Alas!!!

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Pankaj205

@Pankaj205

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Posted: 14 years ago

#14

Now we are talking, people!

Sinistera, What the viewers have seen of the story so far has been of the fight between DV's 'Id' & Amoli's Super-ego'
As you may well know, the 'Id is what you inherit, are born with. Its the dark part of ones psyche where chaos churns. Its selfish & demands instant gratification. DV as the philanderer had to reign in & tether his 'Id' in order to appease Amoli's 'super-ego'.
'Super-ego' is what opposes the 'Id'. It aims for perfection, its organized & critical, somewhat like one's 'conscience' Thus by controlling his 'Id', DV has unconsciously given rise to his own 'Super-ego', translated into feelings of guilt & inferiority.
If this story were to continue in the path of a psycho-obessive drama (to borrow a phrase used by one of you) it would be refreshing, not to mention very bold to show the emergence of Amoli's 'Id' from under the weight of her own 'super-ego'. A no-holds barred love for her man. A 'conscience-be-damned' attitude in order to protect what she has taken for granted up until now.
The beginning is in place. She has already committed murder......

But as Missbubbly put it, the concept is perhaps more suited to a different audience......
Or very skilled writers/artists are needed to paint across a larger canvas.

On a lighter note, I never conceived, I could talk 'Freud' on a forum such as this one...but you live & you learn!

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leelaa9

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Posted: 14 years ago

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Originally posted by: Pankaj205
On a lighter note, I never conceived, I could talk 'Freud' on a forum such as this one...but you live & you learn!

😆 🤣 👍🏼 ⭐️

Originally posted by: Pankaj205
Sinistera, What the viewers have seen of the story so far has been of the fight between DV's 'Id' & Amoli's Super-ego'
As you may well know, the 'Id is what you inherit, are born with. Its the dark part of ones psyche where chaos churns. Its selfish & demands instant gratification. DV as the philanderer had to reign in & tether his 'Id' in order to appease Amoli's 'super-ego'.
'Super-ego' is what opposes the 'Id'. It aims for perfection, its organized & critical, somewhat like one's 'conscience' Thus by controlling his 'Id', DV has unconsciously given rise to his own 'Super-ego', translated into feelings of guilt & inferiority.

Fantastic analysis, buddy.

Originally posted by: Pankaj205
If this story were to continue in the path of a psycho-obessive drama (to borrow a phrase used by one of you) it would be refreshing, not to mention very bold to show the emergence of Amoli's 'Id' from under the weight of her own 'super-ego'. A no-holds barred love for her man. A 'conscience-be-damned' attitude in order to protect what she has taken for granted up until now.
The beginning is in place. She has already committed murder......

But as Missbubbly put it, the concept is perhaps more suited to a different audience......
Or very skilled writers/artists are needed to paint across a larger canvas.

What you've suggested here is what many of us have as well on earlier occassions, though none as eloquently and with such superb understanding as you.

And actually, it's perfecly doable in the Indian TV sphere, though slightly differently than in the Western ones.

While the self-sacrificing wife is idealized here, the possessive wife is a popular figure as well if she's endowed with all the traditional virtues in every other quality.

So long as the heroine is self-sacrificing, devoted and protective towards her family, her being willing to go to extreme lengths to protect her husband's wellbeing as well as his remaining hers alone is assuredly workable.

Edited by leelaa9 - 14 years ago

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Ryan40

@Ryan40

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Posted: 14 years ago

#16

Unquestionably, Leelaa.
Now lets visualize the rest of Amoli's story without compromising on the amplitude of DV's grandeur.
Iam guessing, you & others here, are more than 'willing to suspend disbelief' ?? :))

Edited by Ryan40 - 14 years ago

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leelaa9

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Posted: 14 years ago

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Originally posted by: Ryan40
Unquestionably, Leelaa.
Now lets visualize the rest of the Amoli's story without compromising on the amplitude of DV's grandeur.
Iam guessing, you & others here, are more than 'willing to suspend disbelief' ?? :))

I think you could take a safe bet on that one. 😃

We intend to keep the BPverse alive and well in the land of imagination until we can get it resusciated and back on our screens. 👍🏼

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Ryan40

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Posted: 14 years ago

#18

So where is everyone??

Oh-wow where are you? We need you to paint a picture of Amoli- The Tigress, the way you did DV's in
another thread.

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g_viswam

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Posted: 14 years ago

#19

I am bubbling with conversation after reading all the posts here. So in the interest of my sanity (cause I would go nuts if I can't put my two cents in) I am going to comment

Pankaj205, leelaa9…. Freud is in very good company here.

Amoli to fall into a no-bars kind of love with DV… does not suit Amoli's character. While DV's underlying character completely balances on his "Id". His heart leads the way and he follows. He has no amour against his obsession and he before everybody else, realizes, that kind of dedication is only possible with love. His passion, obsession, love is blind. He tricked Amoli into marrying him and went about it full scale. He understands her hatred and her pain and wants her to use any means to reduce that pain even if he means walking all over him.

Amoli on the other hand, even when she hates, in her own words "her hatred is not blind". She uses her head. She commits murder to save the person she loves. The caring was there. If you remember, when radhae had his accident and amoli was running helter skelter, she runs into takhur – the interaction between them is of two concerned people at first. She resists against injustice and wrong doing but not to the extent of excluding everyone else. Towards the end, she does not herself realize the extent of her love for him… and this is where the story sadly lost it's track.

About DV going soft. He did not. It takes a lot more willpower, guts and mental strength to atone for one's misdoings. Not just to Amoli but also to Kamoudi and Chandana. And he does atone full throttle as with everything else he does. The loss of his grandeur as you put it in any case is not permanent or should not have been. The story track lost it there…His arrogance and grandeur should have turned visible again as his atonement completes. Cause the reason is not his shame with others but the shame of facing himself and how his past is not a dark cloud on the lives of everyone close to him.

I do tend to go on…..but am sure you got the thread….

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leelaa9

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Posted: 14 years ago

#20

Superb, buddy.

Originally posted by: g_viswam

I am bubbling with conversation after reading all the posts here. So in the interest of my sanity (cause I would go nuts if I can't put my two cents in) I am going to comment

Pankaj205, leelaa9'. Freud is in very good company here.

Amoli to fall into a no-bars kind of love with DV' does not suit Amoli's character. While DV's underlying character completely balances on his "Id". His heart leads the way and he follows. He has no amour against his obsession and he before everybody else, realizes, that kind of dedication is only possible with love. His passion, obsession, love is blind. He tricked Amoli into marrying him and went about it full scale. He understands her hatred and her pain and wants her to use any means to reduce that pain even if he means walking all over him.

Amoli on the other hand, even when she hates, in her own words "her hatred is not blind". She uses her head. She commits murder to save the person she loves. The caring was there. If you remember, when radhae had his accident and amoli was running helter skelter, she runs into takhur ' the interaction between them is of two concerned people at first. She resists against injustice and wrong doing but not to the extent of excluding everyone else. Towards the end, she does not herself realize the extent of her love for him' and this is where the story sadly lost it's track.

About DV going soft. He did not. It takes a lot more willpower, guts and mental strength to atone for one's misdoings. Not just to Amoli but also to Kamoudi and Chandana. And he does atone full throttle as with everything else he does. The loss of his grandeur as you put it in any case is not permanent or should not have been. The story track lost it there'His arrogance and grandeur should have turned visible again as his atonement completes. Cause the reason is not his shame with others but the shame of facing himself and how his past is not a dark cloud on the lives of everyone close to him.

I do tend to go on'..but am sure you got the thread'.

Edited by leelaa9 - 14 years ago

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