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starstruckk

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Posted: 11 years ago

#61

Originally posted by: harshu.sundas

yeah but priyanka's fans do acknowledge katrina's achievements .. 😆

and i never knew u could becme sentimental ...lol.. i am sorry if i have offended u but never expected a sensible person like u to put that statement.. anyways i understand when u say that mahira isnt effortless and i agree with u in this point

I'm expressing my opinion just like you have been. If that makes me sentimental then sure. I stand by what I say and always have.

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khamosshhh

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Posted: 11 years ago

#62

Originally posted by: starstruckk
If you're a good actor then you're a good actor. Experience helps those that aren't natural actors. So, this whole debate of how Sanam Saeed has more experience with merely a year makes no sense. If you take a look at Mahira ' s performance in Shehr e Zaat ' s first half, SeZ is Mahira's 4th project as an actress...then this whole experience debate is weak sauce because Mahira was far from effortless there. Good actors need merely one scene to showcase their talent, and that can be their very first scene. Experience mostly helps those who aren't natural.

I agree with u. If u r a good actor then u r good from the very beginning. In fact I came across this article in which Sultana Siddiqui was asked Y she chose Sanam as Kashaf. She said " I was viewing plays for the HUM TV awards for the category of new directors years ago when I first noticed Sanam in Saath. The play wasn't great but Sanam mujhay bohat achi lagi. She stayed in my mind and when Umera Ahmed insisted I direct Zindagi Gulzar Hai I knew Sanam would be perfect for the role." I suppose that play would be even before Daam as it's never even mentioned and just shows that SS was good even then to be noticed by Sultana Siddiqui.

As far as the topic goes, I am refraining from commenting coz I haven't seen Humsafar yet. Though I have watched the first 4 epis and didn't feel the urge to go ahead and watch the remaining ones, though I'll surely watch it for Fawad. Whereas when I watched ZGH, got hooked frm 1st epi itself and completed the whole show in 3/4 days. So on tht basis it's definitely ZGH for me and yup I totally believe tht it's an individual's choice and does not make one show better than the other.

Also more than Fawad I think another reason for these 2 shows being compared is that they r very popular, successful as well as setting new benchmarks I suppose. And I suppose Humsafar was more popular than ZGH when both were aired for the first time.

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Posted: 11 years ago

#63

Originally posted by: starstruckk

I'm expressing my opinion just like you have been. If that makes me sentimental then sure. I stand by what I say and always have.

but standing by ones opinion doesnt allow that person to call other's opinion as ' not sensible ' .. anyways i dont have that much knowldege and thus i go by what i see and what comes off as better, thus i chose to defend mahira .. may be u ppl know better of what natural art is and what artificial art is..

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nevah_mind

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Posted: 11 years ago

#64

Originally posted by: harshu.sundas
no her advising kashaf to take care of zaroon never bugged me because every mother does that and Rafiya does know about Kashaf's comlex nature, so she has an extra lecture for her always.. what bugged me was licking murtaza's ass most of the time ..🥱
Murtaza didnt stay after being taken care by Rafiya doesnt mean that Zaroon should be treated like a victim, he deserved his wife's care and affection which Rafiya made kashaf realize.. GOOD..
look i am independent and am doing undergrads, but still my mother tells me that my husband will kick me out as i cant cook, thats how natural mothers are, they do advise their daughters to take care of the husband and in laws to win their hearts. Murtaza's being spineless doesnt mean kashaf should be spineless in course of zaroon.. then whats the use ? that would mean kashaf is like her father who doesnt care about life partner's well being and all right ? so IMO those moments were good one.

yes no comparison .. not even Hina, the major arguements are because of Fawad, and trust me when i say it 😉

see your point above is a classic example of how each individual takes things as per ones own surroundings.

Rafiya pandering to Murtuza was another thing that used to get on my nerves.

But where the things she told Kashaf used to bug me is possibly because my mother tells me that it doesn't matter if I don't know to cook, and she used to always tell my brother that HE better learn to cook, because these days any girl who is financially independent, and will contribute to finances, will expect the man to contribute in the household chores 😆

Doesn't mean that one is right and the other one is wrong, but it surely means that there is a difference in individual choices.

Which basically boils down to what you and I are saying. That one cannot compare and it really doesn't mean that one serial is better than the other on any ground.

IMHO, even if you take Fawad, him being common in both serials, its unfair to judge him or his character too.

Both stories are different, and has piqued the interest of people in different ways.

Its not fair to compare the serials, nor justify one's opinion as the ultimate fact.

Humsafar, though it was a run of the mill story, was beautifully done. The way the emotions were conveyed, and the way it touched so many hearts, there was no doubt, something very special about it, beyong Asher and Khirad.

Fawad was fantastic as Asher, but he was very well matched with mahira who gave a wonderful performance to take the show through the way it did.

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Maha

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Posted: 11 years ago

#65

Humsafar

IMO ZGH novel was better than the show :)

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AreYaar

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Posted: 11 years ago

#66

Originally posted by: starstruckk

Mahira wasn't known before Humsafar? Mahira is one of the most popular VJs in recent times. She is probably THE most popular VJ in recent years. So, you're wrong she was very popular amongst audiences before she started as an actor. Sanam Saeed was practically unknown. Sanam Saeed started off in a minor role in Daam in 2010 while Mahira started off in a film in 2011. Mahira chooses to do less work. She hasn't had a show air in 2 years, that's her own choice. Sanam Saeed's real big break was Mera Naseeb in 2011 and even then she didn't receive much recognition since she wasn't the pretty character like her cousin in the show who despite acting horrendously was noticed more. Mata e Jaan was then Sanam's next big show but she was the supporting cast and that show didn't fare well. So, I'm not sure what makes you think Sanam Saeed had an upperhand. She was never appreciated up until ZGH. It's not easy for unconventional looking girls to be recognized. Sanam Saeed even gets roles where they have her character has the average looking girl. She had to push the envelope even more. Mahira didn't even read Humsafar's script and said yes because she didn't know how to approach work post Neeyat. She was the main lead in Neeyat and that show bombed. The director of Neeyat was the same as that of Daam, Doraha and Malaal yet Neeyat flopped. Sanam Saeed actually reads her scripts by the way and decides for herself. She even mentioned in an interview that she sometimes wishes she could bag a role like Mahira or Ayeza (who are touted as conventionally good looking) because they easily receive those ideal characters..meanwhile Sanam Saeed does not. So, if anything at all, Sanam and Mahira both had to prove themselves in Humsafar and ZGH..and which one had to work harder and prove themselves even more than the other to get their due? Well that's the obvious. If Sanam Saeed looks more experienced to you by a difference of mere one year and 2 big supporting roles on tv which weren't appreciated enough..then I think that says something the performer's potential.

In terms of chemistry - that's very much arguable. I personally believe it was always going to be harder for Sanam Saeed and Fawad to convince the audiences with their pair. They're the unconventional one for many reasons...Needless to say, they did a pretty darn good job.

I really enjoyed reading your take on this...the bit in bold...very informative...Personally Sanam has earned a fan in me for the way she approaches her work...she has a face and demeanor that stands out from the so called "conventionally" beautiful dollfaces that populate entertainment...and it's interesting to know how casually some people take their work and how much harder Sanam had to work to be noticed...well she definitely pulled it off in ZGH...backed by a strong script she proved herself.

And in my opinion, there can't EVER be a comparison b/w something that the great Umera Ahmed wrote and the pedestrian cliched stuff that is shown in most other shows...so it's a no-brainer...ZGH anyday, anytime.

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nevah_mind

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Posted: 11 years ago

#67

another point that went in Mahira's favor for me was this.

After I watched Humsafar, I watched the morning show with Ayesha Omar and was shocked to see how chirpy and talkative she was.

I remember being so shocked, because she was ingrained in my mind as Khirad, the girl of very few words.

That means she did step out of her real self and became a character completely opposite of her real self, and so fabulously.

it showed that she had the talent to take the role through. She always gives credit to Sarmad for that, and I'm sure he played a big role, as did Fawad to bring the best out of her.

I have also see Sheher e zaat, and I didn't think much of her there.

In Bol, her role was small, but she did it well. It was only her scenes that brought some signs of joy in the movie, which was so heart touching and well made. I wept like crazy through it.

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TheRager

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Posted: 11 years ago

#68

ZGH for me anyday. Humsafar sounds inspired by KZK and Asher's character by Onurag Basu and I hate such spineless people who get blackmailed or manipulated easily. Zaroon and Kashaf had their personality flaws but they were really strong people personality wise who took their own decisions rather than get blackmailed or manipulated by anyone else. Despite the great promos and Fawad's presence I have no interest in watching Humsafar.

PS: If I do watch it finally and like what I see I'll take my words back. 😆

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kinjalshahshah

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Posted: 11 years ago

#69

Originally posted by: RockChicGirl
ZGH for me anyday. Humsafar sounds inspired by KZK and Asher's character by Onurag Basu and I hate such spineless people who get blackmailed or manipulated easily. Zaroon and Kashaf had their personality flaws but they were really strong people personality wise who took their own decisions rather than get blackmailed or manipulated by anyone else. Despite the great promos and Fawad's presence I have no interest in watching Humsafar.

PS: If I do watch it finally and like what I see I'll take my words back. 😆

Shreya jaani Asher was anything but spineless and mark my word when i say that😃 Btw who doesnt get manipulated inlife, even Zaroon cud hav been easily manipulated if his mother wanted to coz he had those traits- he was possessive, judgmental, egositic yet sensible but with Kasahf thr wasnt such possibility coz she was as smart as Zaroon and he knew that, respected her for that so chances were less. Here in case of Asher and Khirad that respect was in form of love and that kind of love can be easily manipulated by external force, btw he did not blindly trust others (do not want to give spoilers here)

Again dont want to nag you to watch it but wud like you to give it a chance with no bias no pre-judgement (now i dont know who is KZK)- also tell me how much crap hav you already jhelofied for your other favs😉 so i think you shud do it for fawad if you want, not that i am saying HS is crap..

everyone has their own fav, their own opinions- as long as they dont step into the territory of demeaning others sentiments but then again comparing ZGH and HS is bit unfair coz of the substance these two shows provide are complete opposite- one is realty tale and other one is fairy tale😊

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AreYaar

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Posted: 11 years ago

#70

Originally posted by: RockChicGirl
ZGH for me anyday. Humsafar sounds inspired by KZK and Asher's character by Onurag Basu and I hate such spineless people who get blackmailed or manipulated easily. Zaroon and Kashaf had their personality flaws but they were really strong people personality wise who took their own decisions rather than get blackmailed or manipulated by anyone else. Despite the great promos and Fawad's presence I have no interest in watching Humsafar.

PS: If I do watch it finally and like what I see I'll take my words back. 😆

LOL@ the KZK comparison. I don't know if it's like KZK but I could barely sit through the beginning 2 episodes of Humsafar. Goes to show an actor is never enough to carry a show...good WRITING and direction matters too...ZGH won on all counts starting from writing and then came the direction and acting. The real soul of ZGH is Umera Ahmed.

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