ZGH or Humsafar? - Page 8

Originally posted by: kinjalshahshah

Shreya jaani Asher was anything but spineless and mark my word when i say that😃 Btw who doesnt get manipulated inlife, even Zaroon cud hav been easily manipulated if his mother wanted to coz he had those traits- he was possessive, judgmental, egositic yet sensible but with Kasahf thr wasnt such possibility coz she was as smart as Zaroon and he knew that, respected her for that so chances were less. Here in case of Asher and Khirad that respect was in form of love and that kind of love can be easily manipulated by external force, btw he did not blindly trust others (do not want to give spoilers here)

Again dont want to nag you to watch it but wud like you to give it a chance with no bias no pre-judgement (now i dont know who is KZK)- also tell me how much crap hav you already jhelofied for your other favs😉 so i think you shud do it for fawad if you want, not that i am saying HS is crap..

everyone has their own fav, their own opinions- as long as they dont step into the territory of demeaning others sentiments but then again comparing ZGH and HS is bit unfair coz of the substance these two shows provide are complete opposite- one is realty tale and other one is fairy tale😊

Originally posted by: kinjalshahshah

Shreya jaani Asher was anything but spineless and mark my word when i say that😃 Btw who doesnt get manipulated inlife, even Zaroon cud hav been easily manipulated if his mother wanted to coz he had those traits- he was possessive, judgmental, egositic yet sensible but with Kasahf thr wasnt such possibility coz she was as smart as Zaroon and he knew that, respected her for that so chances were less. Here in case of Asher and Khirad that respect was in form of love and that kind of love can be easily manipulated by external force, btw he did not blindly trust others (do not want to give spoilers here)

Again dont want to nag you to watch it but wud like you to give it a chance with no bias no pre-judgement (now i dont know who is KZK)- also tell me how much crap hav you already jhelofied for your other favs😉 so i think you shud do it for fawad if you want, not that i am saying HS is crap..

everyone has their own fav, their own opinions- as long as they dont step into the territory of demeaning others sentiments but then again comparing ZGH and HS is bit unfair coz of the substance these two shows provide are complete opposite- one is realty tale and other one is fairy tale😊

Originally posted by: AreYaar

LOL@ the KZK comparison. I don't know if it's like KZK but I could barely sit through the beginning 2 episodes of Humsafar. Goes to show an actor is never enough to carry a show...good WRITING and direction matters too...ZGH won on all counts starting from writing and then came the direction and acting. The real soul of ZGH is Umera Ahmed.

Originally posted by: starstruckk

If you're a good actor then you're a good actor. Experience helps those that aren't natural actors. So, this whole debate of how Sanam Saeed has more experience with merely a year makes no sense. If you take a look at Mahira ' s performance in Shehr e Zaat ' s first half, SeZ is Mahira's 4th project as an actress...then this whole experience debate is weak sauce because Mahira was far from effortless there. Good actors need merely one scene to showcase their talent, and that can be their very first scene. Experience mostly helps those who aren't natural.

Originally posted by: nevah_mind

agree with you completely and also about Rafiya. She really started bugging me when she used to give kashaf all that advice about looking after her husband and cooking for him blah blah.She did all that for Murtuza an he didn't stay. After educating her daughters single handedly, and teaching them to stand on their own feet, is that what she could tell Kashaf only after marriage?

Didn't make any sense to me.

I too preferred Hina as Gazala.

though i found both the character sketches in the script contradicting. I didn't find these kind od loopholes in the screenplay in Humsafar.

Again, Sanam S was fantastic in ZGH. She fitted the role perfectly. But really can't compare her and Mahira. The comparison is baseless. Only common factor between both are Fawad and Hina.😆

Originally posted by: sia.k_1

@Bold

I am sorry but i completely disagree with this. I think such scenes were the highlight of ZGH as they portrayed reality. Every parent for that matter would give such advises to their children. And in particular, Rafia was being more concerned as she knew how Kashaf was. She was so pessimistic and Kashaf had seen a broken marriage. I think every parent would be scared of the repercussions of it on their children.

if one has watched the serial carefully, one can notice scenes where Rafia's advises have worked in favor of Kashaf.

A scene where Zaroon's mom mentions that Kashaf keeps calling her regularly and keeps a tab on things and she's so used to her calling now that when kashaf doesnt call she gets tensed.

Another scene where Zaroon tells his mother how happy he is because Kashaf takes care of his every lil thing.

N Murtaza leaving Rafia was another issue altogether. till date there are families who want a male child and not a girl. So the issue is quite serious and 'taking care and cooking' doesnt even matter here. Every woman does that to the family. Im just trying to say that he left her for a very serious issue and not some trivial issues like cooking.

@Red part

So if one is educated u expect them not to give such advises to their own children??😕 Again i think educated or not educated every parent will give such advices to their children for their good.

Its a very special show which i love so i wanted to just post my opinion. No offence meant to you.😊

And i sincerely feel there is no comparison between the two shows. They were of different genre. And its more of individualistic choices so i guess the whole debate about who's better and which is better is pointless😆

Originally posted by: khamosshhh

I know many ppl found the advises given by Rfia to Kashaf towards the end episodes tiring. Not only that but they found Sidra scenes too irritating and also the Murtaza household scenes and I guess that's coz towards the end ppl just wanted to watch Kashaf-Zaroon. But for me ZGH was never just Kashaf-Zaroon love story, but as I hv also maintained, it's Kashaf's story primarily and Zaroon's story too and hence we have the detailed story of theor respective families and background.

So coming back to my point😆, I did not find those advice giving scenes of Rafia tiring. In fact I loved them and again it just shows how logically they have shown Kashaf being a married woman and taking up her responsibilities. They always showed Kashaf as a mature and responsible person, who was very bitter generally and towards men specifically. Also marriage for her was something she never gave a thought too. So I really liked how Rafia guided Kashaf after her marriage, as, if they had just shown Kashaf being a good and responsible wife and DIL without Rafia's advices, it would have looked a little unbelievable. Also I didn't find anything regressive in Rafia's advice to Kashaf and also Kashaf was never a doormat kind of a wife. She clearly said tht she could not bend over and please her husband when he is wrong and she stood by her words.

Coming to Rafia and Murtaza again I don't find tht Rafia was wrong towards teh end. What ppl fail to notice is the consistency in Rafia's character. They always showed her having a soft corner for Murtaza, for whatever reason. She clearly said tht she did have some good memories abt life spent with him and so she was never totally against him. In fact this they have shown beautifully, when Murtaza and his elder brother came to their house. Rafia was so terse when she spoke to her Jeth and u could hear her disdain and resentment towards him. But that tone of voice she never used for Murtaza. She would be extremely hurt by Murtaza's indifferent behavior but she never disrespected him or resented him. And she always asked her daughters too to show respect for him. So towards the end too her behavior remained the same with Murtaza. Now just coz she was in a better postion, then not mean that she would be disrespectful towards him. They show her with a bigger heart and she remained the same throughout. Having said tht, it did not make her a docile wife, coz in her quite dignified way she did give it back to Murtaza and did not mince words to let him know how much he had wronged his daughters. It's a very fine balance to show a character like Rafia who stands by her daughters at the same time never really ends up hating her husband. Also Samina Peerzada said in the interview, how when she got Rafia's character she thought she would be a negative person coz of all she has been through, but how thw writer/ director wanted her to play the character positively and how well it worked out. guess they just wanted to bring out the contrast in Rafia's and Kashaf's way of thinking.