Abhimanyu's pain more than Akshara's pain always? - Page 3

I am taking no offence .. I have seen you mostky empathise with the Mail and criticise the FL and the impression I get from your posts are that you feel the FL is the one at fault .. what ML did was just for tro .. so he shouldn’t be judged by that day .. but FLs actions are open to criticism because those were not tdp .. I am available. Stating my opinion based on how I viewed the series .. the reactions are mostly what I feel while watching or reading .. your reactions are very different and very valid for you and you have every right to those reactions as well .. I am not judging you as a person or anyone else who is an Abhira fan but sympathise more with ML .. just like you do not understand my opinion and you don’t agree with it .. I happen to disagree with your point of view .. no hard feelings or taking things personally from my end

Originally posted by: firewings_diya

To be honest nobody is making post on abhimanyu to justify him 😆 there are only few people who try to understand characters considering all aspects that does not mean we are mad about ml or we like the actor so we are saying it.

I criticize both the characters. If you scroll through last 5 pages of IF you make just see one or two posts that blames akshu. Rest all are ranting on abhim. People who criticize akshu they criticize abhim too.

Only minor people will come and justify with valid reasons.

Regarding scenes you mentioned that's common in every itv show. Fl is the star of the itv show. They only show fl is getting hurt everytime. Even anupama was walking aimlessly post anuj left.

I will not take decisions based on such scenes as those scenes majorly put for trp viewers to gain sympathy on the leads. Abhi could have also walked aimlessly on that day as his childrens are dead , his brother was dead and his mom was really ill.

He could have been shown as some one who is running away from situation but he just stayed there as he knew family needs him. I think in that terms.

but do not demean any opinions by saying ppl simply supporting a character. Why should i support him when i myself left the show on that white day and i am catching up those scenes now.. if i am really a hc or abhimanyu fan I would have never missed a single scene. Many people here are just general watchers who likes to watch what we like criticize characters when we feel so.

We do not consider those things which are common in every show.

Fl acting dumb ml

acting rude as that's what seperation is as without that neither ml will get angry and fl gets seperated.

But that does not mean i hate lead couple or i hate abhira. Once this track is over i will forget this track too and move on from its like how i did with other tracks.I can't allow these stupid seperation tracks to take space in my memory.😊

No offense.

I am taking no offence .. I have seen you mostky empathise with the Mail and criticise the FL and the impression I get from your posts are that you feel the FL is the one at fault .. what ML did was just for tro .. so he shouldn’t be judged by that day .. but FLs actions are open to criticism because those were not tdp .. I am available. Stating my opinion based on how I viewed the series .. the reactions are mostly what I feel while watching or reading .. your reactions are very different and very valid for you and you have every right to those reactions as well .. I am not judging you as a person or anyone else who is an Abhira fan but sympathise more with ML .. just like you do not understand my opinion and you don’t agree with it .. I happen to disagree with your point of view .. no hard feelings or taking things personally from my end

also she would have stayed to inspire of how she was being blamed , had Abhimanyu not thrown her out of his life abd called her murderer and the biggest mistake of his life.. no one threw him out it was his own toxic house and even more toxic family .. he didn’t even consider her family ..

Originally posted by: firewings_diya

To be honest nobody is making post on abhimanyu to justify him 😆 there are only few people who try to understand characters considering all aspects that does not mean we are mad about ml or we like the actor so we are saying it.

I criticize both the characters. If you scroll through last 5 pages of IF you make just see one or two posts that blames akshu. Rest all are ranting on abhim. People who criticize akshu they criticize abhim too.

Only minor people will come and justify with valid reasons.

Regarding scenes you mentioned that's common in every itv show. Fl is the star of the itv show. They only show fl is getting hurt everytime. Even anupama was walking aimlessly post anuj left.

I will not take decisions based on such scenes as those scenes majorly put for trp viewers to gain sympathy on the leads. Abhi could have also walked aimlessly on that day as his childrens are dead , his brother was dead and his mom was really ill.

He could have been shown as some one who is running away from situation but he just stayed there as he knew family needs him. I think in that terms.

but do not demean any opinions by saying ppl simply supporting a character. Why should i support him when i myself left the show on that white day and i am catching up those scenes now.. if i am really a hc or abhimanyu fan I would have never missed a single scene. Many people here are just general watchers who likes to watch what we like criticize characters when we feel so.

We do not consider those things which are common in every show.

Fl acting dumb ml

acting rude as that's what seperation is as without that neither ml will get angry and fl gets seperated.

But that does not mean i hate lead couple or i hate abhira. Once this track is over i will forget this track too and move on from its like how i did with other tracks.I can't allow these stupid seperation tracks to take space in my memory.😊

No offense.

I am taking no offence .. I have seen you mostky empathise with the ML and criticise the FL and the impression I get from your posts are that you feel the FL is the one at fault while ML is justified .. and what ML did was just for trp so he shouldn’t be judged by that day .. but FLs actions are open to criticism because those are just what FLs do in IT? .. I am just. Stating my opinion based on how I viewed the series .. the reactions are mostly what I feel while watching or reading the posts here .. your reactions are very different and very valid for you and you have every right to those reactions as well .. I am not judging you as a person or anyone else who is an Abhira fan but sympathise more with ML .. just like you do not understand my opinion and you don’t agree with it .. I happen to disagree with your point of view .. no hard feelings or taking things personally from my end

also about the running away - she would have stayed too inspite of how she was being blamed , had Abhimanyu not thrown her out of his life and called her murderer and the biggest mistake of his life.. no one threw him out it was his own toxic house and even more toxic family .. he didn’t even consider her family .. how will she stay ? And after he threw her out what she does no one can dictate that this is what she should have done ..

Originally posted by: firewings_diya

To be honest nobody is making post on abhimanyu to justify him 😆 there are only few people who try to understand characters considering all aspects that does not mean we are mad about ml or we like the actor so we are saying it.

I criticize both the characters. If you scroll through last 5 pages of IF you make just see one or two posts that blames akshu. Rest all are ranting on abhim. People who criticize akshu they criticize abhim too.

Only minor people will come and justify with valid reasons.

Regarding scenes you mentioned that's common in every itv show. Fl is the star of the itv show. They only show fl is getting hurt everytime. Even anupama was walking aimlessly post anuj left.

I will not take decisions based on such scenes as those scenes majorly put for trp viewers to gain sympathy on the leads. Abhi could have also walked aimlessly on that day as his childrens are dead , his brother was dead and his mom was really ill.

He could have been shown as some one who is running away from situation but he just stayed there as he knew family needs him. I think in that terms.

but do not demean any opinions by saying ppl simply supporting a character. Why should i support him when i myself left the show on that white day and i am catching up those scenes now.. if i am really a hc or abhimanyu fan I would have never missed a single scene. Many people here are just general watchers who likes to watch what we like criticize characters when we feel so.

We do not consider those things which are common in every show.

Fl acting dumb ml

acting rude as that's what seperation is as without that neither ml will get angry and fl gets seperated.

But that does not mean i hate lead couple or i hate abhira. Once this track is over i will forget this track too and move on from its like how i did with other tracks.I can't allow these stupid seperation tracks to take space in my memory.😊

No offense.

Originally posted by: firewings_diya

To be honest nobody is making post on abhimanyu to justify him 😆 there are only few people who try to understand characters considering all aspects that does not mean we are mad about ml or we like the actor so we are saying it.

I criticize both the characters. If you scroll through last 5 pages of IF you make just see one or two posts that blames akshu. Rest all are ranting on abhim. People who criticize akshu they criticize abhim too.

Only minor people will come and justify with valid reasons.

Regarding scenes you mentioned that's common in every itv show. Fl is the star of the itv show. They only show fl is getting hurt everytime. Even anupama was walking aimlessly post anuj left.

I will not take decisions based on such scenes as those scenes majorly put for trp viewers to gain sympathy on the leads. Abhi could have also walked aimlessly on that day as his childrens are dead , his brother was dead and his mom was really ill.

He could have been shown as some one who is running away from situation but he just stayed there as he knew family needs him. I think in that terms.

but do not demean any opinions by saying ppl simply supporting a character. Why should i support him when i myself left the show on that white day and i am catching up those scenes now.. if i am really a hc or abhimanyu fan I would have never missed a single scene. Many people here are just general watchers who likes to watch what we like criticize characters when we feel so.

We do not consider those things which are common in every show.

Fl acting dumb ml acting rude as that's what seperation is as without that neither ml will get angry and fl gets seperated.

But that does not mean I hate lead couples or i hate Abhira. Once this track is over I will forget this track too and move on from its like how I did with other tracks. I can't allow these stupid separation tracks to take space in my memory. but many people here still want to judge abhi based on his past actions they still need to leave past behind to see the pov of the characters.😊

No offense.

@bold - just want to point out, Abhi was in that condition, if you remember he drank a lot and stuff and was on course to become Dev Dixit, but then he immediately realized he has to handle family and stuff so got his composure back again and promised not to do so again.

I feel like people completely ignore all of Abhi's good qualities. He is a toxic male lead, yes, but he is a unique take on the classic toxic lead. He has tried very hard to keep his commitments and responsibilities and maybe it's just HC's acting, but we can see that he is trying hard. He never gave up on any of it. The only thing he gave up on was Ak, multiple times.

Originally posted by: solembaum

I am taking no offence .. I have seen you mostky empathise with the Mail and criticise the FL and the impression I get from your posts are that you feel the FL is the one at fault .. what ML did was just for tro .. so he shouldn’t be judged by that day .. but FLs actions are open to criticism because those were not tdp .. I am available. Stating my opinion based on how I viewed the series .. the reactions are mostly what I feel while watching or reading .. your reactions are very different and very valid for you and you have every right to those reactions as well .. I am not judging you as a person or anyone else who is an Abhira fan but sympathise more with ML .. just like you do not understand my opinion and you don’t agree with it .. I happen to disagree with your point of view .. no hard feelings or taking things personally from my end

Then yoh may have missed my others posts too which criticized ml.

I initially criticzed ml and blamed him too my perception changed when i actually watched those scenes on my own.

In my every post i say that i do not justify abhi's action on that day. As on white day every character behaved out of characters so i don't waste my time in ranting on it on every post.

The reason why i now deviating from fl is as i am unable to tolerate the reason of fl marrying some one stranger even shows like anupama uplifting single women.

I am not saying akshu should have not married but the base of her marriage was shallow. I never criticized until they showed her move on crap. As i felt she really pushing herself. I know you guys would tag me as non empathetic person. If you think so i Don't care.

As a viewer i know how akshu behaves in love. She is literally doing same thing what she did initially to impress arohi.

In order to please arohi she gifted abhi.

In order to please she will gift herself.

If they really show they are in love put her pov that she is falling in love i will quit the show. They are neither showing her pov nor showing anything for audience to feel like she is really moved on and they are showing these things any normal audience will get irirtated.

But that does not mean i will make long longs posts to bash akshu. Because i completely know it's written by itv writers bashing her Don't even make any sense.

Originally posted by: lagjagale

@bold - just want to point out, Abhi was in that condition, if you remember he drank a lot and stuff and was on course to become Dev Dixit, but then he immediately realized he has to handle family and stuff so got his composure back again and promised not to do so again.

I feel like people completely ignore all of Abhi's good qualities. He is a toxic male lead, yes, but he is a unique take on the classic toxic lead. He has tried very hard to keep his commitments and responsibilities and maybe it's just HC's acting, but we can see that he is trying hard. He never gave up on any of it. The only thing he gave up on was Ak, multiple times.

In general every show shows fl happily raising child with a stranger for 6 years and ml sufferring but hardly any ml gets any sympathy because they just make him a evil before seperation.

My only point is if abhi is bad husband but it is not mandatory that he is a bad father. Birla's toxic hai but earlier they were normal. Manjari was normal. Harsh is also become sane. Mahima and Anand don't have much screen space. Sirf parth ke liye they can not say family is toxic. If manjari gets to know abhir is her grandson she may get her senses back. It's a ITV show ithna kyun sar phodna 😆 Theory exam main thodi na ayega ki akshu ke saath kya hua ye likho for 10 marks 😆

Originally posted by: Vanavil25

Classic example of victim blaming and internalized sexism.

Is pointing out one character's stupidity so that the other always shout is internalized sexism and victim blaming????So according to u AK won't do anything just Abhimanyu shout at her unnecessarily all the time right...Did u watch the episode of Neil death and white day???Is she had an ounce of regret .....Any sorry from her mouth ...Ak thinks whatever she does is right and everyone should accept this...What if Kairav die because of Abhi will she say bravo Abhi ...if so She should have killed Abhi....Mostly in name of feminism whatever a girl or fl do is right according to some ....I won't come in that category ...If Abhira are separated Ak is also at fault not only Abhi...

Exactly ! Ak has made a lot of mistakes, Abhi's reactions are not just some madman ranting, they are in response to things that Ak does. How this is internalized sexism, I have no idea. No one is saying it's fine to throw your miscarried wife out, but that wasn't an isolated incident. I don't want to do an Ak bashing post, but there are plenty of reasons for Abhi's behavior in general. I still maintain that the whole track was just a trp thing. Ak was stupid before, but nowhere close to this, and Abhi did have a lot of anger issues, but he was marginally better during the second chance, and then in one day everything was turned around. Both are at fault.

And yeah, misogyny is a part of ITV shows, we all know it. But supporting the FL blindly is not feminism. Does ITV destroy its FL? Yes, and that is the misogyny. Not talking about the interactions between the characters and how one affects the other.

I obviously have not read all your posts .. I am sure most of us haven’t read every post of each other .. so if you have understood or empathised with FL those must be the posts that I missed .. and I have no problem even if you don’t empathise with FL .. I empathise more with FL and I feel people bash the character too much and unfairly and I guess I am allowed those opinions .. I am not judging you .. every person has things they identify more with ..

I do object though to the statement of Akshu gifting Arohi to Abhi or gifting Abhi to Arohi .. she didn’t do either .. Abhimanyu chose to go to Arohi and continue to torture and admire Akshara by the side .. that was his decision .. she didn’t own Arohinor Abhimanyu to gift either of them to each other .. she just stepped back and didn’t want to be part of the equation .. but after he made that equation she told him to stay within his boundaries and remember that he is going to be her jija.. for me Abhimanyu was the one on the wrong side there , not Akshara ..

However I do agree that Akshara is not in love with Abhinav , but she definitely respects him and is very grateful to him for standing by her when he had no need or reason to .. and I think while her feelings may be still there somewhere deep

Down for Abhi , right now she is not in love with him either .. nor do I think Abhimanyu is in love with Akshara at the moment

Originally posted by: firewings_diya

Then yoh may have missed my others posts too which criticized ml.

I initially criticzed ml and blamed him too my perception changed when i actually watched those scenes on my own.

In my every post i say that i do not justify abhi's action on that day. As on white day every character behaved out of characters so i don't waste my time in ranting on it on every post.

The reason why i now deviating from fl is as i am unable to tolerate the reason of fl marrying some one stranger even shows like anupama uplifting single women.

I am not saying akshu should have not married but the base of her marriage was shallow. I never criticized until they showed her move on crap. As i felt she really pushing herself. I know you guys would tag me as non empathetic person. If you think so i Don't care.

As a viewer i know how akshu behaves in love. She is literally doing same thing what she did initially to impress arohi.

In order to please arohi she gifted abhi.

In order to please she will gift herself.

If they really show they are in love put her pov that she is falling in love i will quit the show. They are neither showing her pov nor showing anything for audience to feel like she is really moved on and they are showing these things any normal audience will get irirtated.

But that does not mean i will make long longs posts to bash akshu. Because i completely know it's written by itv writers bashing her Don't even make any sense.

I just wanted to tell you that I really like the way you engage although we are usually on opposite sides of the spectrum .. you are one of the people whose posts ILike reading even if we don’t agree 😊

Originally posted by: lagjagale

@bold - just want to point out, Abhi was in that condition, if you remember he drank a lot and stuff and was on course to become Dev Dixit, but then he immediately realized he has to handle family and stuff so got his composure back again and promised not to do so again.

I feel like people completely ignore all of Abhi's good qualities. He is a toxic male lead, yes, but he is a unique take on the classic toxic lead. He has tried very hard to keep his commitments and responsibilities and maybe it's just HC's acting, but we can see that he is trying hard. He never gave up on any of it. The only thing he gave up on was Ak, multiple times.