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Posted: 2 years ago
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Right? Right from the beginning of this track not once has she given any indication of wanting to go back to Abhimanyu. In the first Kasauli episode she was just thankful to God for all that he had given her. Amd then we hear people saying how she should be "ashamed " of being with Abhinav 2hile still carrying the great Saint Manyu jn her heart. Are we the only people not seeing it? 🤔

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: Silveraliax


If you are talking about custody then no, Abhi does not deserve Abhir unless Akshara suddenly becomes unfit to look after him or if Abhir himself decides to stay with Abhi but these two possibilities should not occur on the show as it would be quite random.


But Abhi did not abandon his child. He abandoned Akshara for sure but not his kid. I will not defend Abhi for what he did but will defend him for what he did not do.


Yes, they did ruin Parth and Manjari too for this leap I agree. Manjari wasn't a great mother before either but she was never cruel. Whatever she did used to be due to her dumbness, never intentionally malicious. Biggest character destruction was of Abhi then Manjari then Akshara.


Show feels weird because they have no proper development. They jump from one thing to another like a rabbit ruining a pretty field for carrots.

i agree. These are the characters they ruined completely for leap.

1. Abhi : he became overnight insensitive. A doctor who used to treat all his poor patients who even went against his father to treat some patients suddenly shown as maniac. Who used to come up with yamraj outfits for poor patient. Who used to ignore vip patients became insensitive.

2. Parth : the person who used to feel happy staying with manjari and used to cook food with her discuss about tamatar chutney overnight became abuser.

3. Shefali: the person who used to give it back to parth overnight became victim.

4. Manjari : the person who was dumb and for some time she treated akshu as her daughter irrespective how much she messed she was considered as mother to akshu. Overnight became evil and cunning

5.kairav: the person who used to go to abhi and ask justice for akshu. Suddenly became insensitive and left his sister.

6. Akshu : shown as weak. The girl who left udaipur stayed alone for long suddenly felf a need of a man in life that too she felt like marrying him. Kya uske friends mar gaye them what she did when she was away from udaipur. Family chodo where are her friends.

I would have not mind if nav was her best friend who supported her when she was in need. But they made nav as stranger inorder glorify his character more.

They butchered all these character to show how good nav is and how happy akshu is with nav. Nav may be good but i can not forgive him for giving 15 minutes of torture that i have to bear tolerating all the above butchered characters.

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: Kacchakela21

Abhi=now


People are free to write anything they want as long as it doesn't violate the guidelines of thia forum. Amd being respectful to others is the first rule.


I have not violated any rules or guidelines. Even I can say you have not been respectful by dictating what people can and cannot write but Jane do.

Let us discuss the show and that's it. Sorry for the trouble.

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Posted: 2 years ago
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I can "dictate" what a person can or cannot wrote when that comment is directed towards me exclusively. It might not have been disrespectful in your opinion , but I've never seen people talk the way you did in this forum. And, I done here, that's all from my side.

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: firewings_diya

i agree. These are the characters they ruined completely for leap.

1. Abhi : he became overnight insensitive. A doctor who used to treat all his poor patients who even went against his father to treat some patients suddenly shown as maniac. Who used to come up with yamraj outfits for poor patient. Who used to ignore vip patients became insensitive.

2. Parth : the person who used to feel happy staying with manjari and used to cook food with her discuss about tamatar chutney overnight became abuser.

3. Shefali: the person who used to give it back to parth overnight became victim.

4. Manjari : the person who was dumb and for some time she treated akshu as her daughter irrespective how much she messed she was considered as mother to akshu. Overnight became evil and cunning

5.kairav: the person who used to go to abhi and ask justice for akshu. Suddenly became insensitive and left his sister.

6. Akshu : shown as weak. The girl who left udaipur stayed alone for long suddenly felf a need of a man in life that too she felt like marrying him. Kya uske friends mar gaye them what she did when she was away from udaipur. Family chodo where are her friends.

I would have not mind if nav was her best friend who supported her when she was in need. But they made nav as stranger inorder glorify his character more.

They butchered all these character to show how good nav is and how happy akshu is with nav. Nav may be good but i can not forgive him for giving 15 minutes of torture that i have to bear tolerating all the above butchered characters.


I agree. You know I don't think I would have complained had there been a proper development of those characters. Even if Abhi had to turn out like that, at least do it gradually. How can one digest the whole dinner in one gulp?


See if Nav turns negative then same people who bashed Abhi, will not bash Nav but blame the makers for ruining his character. Toh yeh hypocrisy kyun hain?


Also, saying Abhi was always like this doesn't sit with me. Abhi had anger issues but he was no monster. Even Naitik acted on impulsions and had anger problems. Bhai ignored Akshara in majority of their wedding ceremonies and even made her cry on their first night just because of one half baked rumour. Yet makers never let Naitik's character do any major harm to Akshara. They never let his character down.

OG Akshara and Naitik were the real deal and its quite sad how their legacy is being butchered because makers have no other way to obtain trps.

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: Silveraliax


I agree. You know I don't think I would have complained had there been a proper development of those characters. Even if Abhi had to turn out like that, at least do it gradually. How can one digest the whole dinner in one gulp?


See if Nav turns negative then same people who bashed Abhi, will not bash Nav but blame the makers for ruining his character. Toh yeh hypocrisy kyun hain?


Also, saying Abhi was always like this doesn't sit with me. Abhi had anger issues but he was no monster. Even Naitik acted on impulsions and had anger problems. Bhai ignored Akshara in majority of their wedding ceremonies and even made her cry on their first night just because of one half baked rumour. Yet makers never let Naitik's character do any major harm to Akshara. They never let his character down.

OG Akshara and Naitik were the real deal and its quite sad how their legacy is being butchered because makers have no other way to obtain trps.

@bold totally agree on this. If nav died or turn negative ppl will blame that abhira ko reunion karana tha and they can't show progressive show. They have to show regressive content etc.

But for Abhimanyu's character nobody wants to understand it was all trp game. They had to show this for trp. They had to butcher him for trp like how they butchered everyone to show akshu as abla bechari.

Because no matter how much we deny indian audience like abla bechari naari's. To get that character on fl the ml is the only scape goat in s3 who can do that.

S2 had many characters who were against naira so karthik had less scope to humiliate naira.

But s3 abhi is the strongest character. In his presence no one can touch her so they made abhi to do the honors. 😔

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: Silveraliax


I agree. You know I don't think I would have complained had there been a proper development of those characters. Even if Abhi had to turn out like that, at least do it gradually. How can one digest the whole dinner in one gulp?


See if Nav turns negative then same people who bashed Abhi, will not bash Nav but blame the makers for ruining his character. Toh yeh hypocrisy kyun hain?


Also, saying Abhi was always like this doesn't sit with me. Abhi had anger issues but he was no monster. Even Naitik acted on impulsions and had anger problems. Bhai ignored Akshara in majority of their wedding ceremonies and even made her cry on their first night just because of one half baked rumour. Yet makers never let Naitik's character do any major harm to Akshara. They never let his character down.

OG Akshara and Naitik were the real deal and its quite sad how their legacy is being butchered because makers have no other way to obtain trps.

Abhi gaslighted Akshara and faked an engagement with her sister so that she accepts the love only he knew she had for him. Abhira fans hate Arohi because she's embittered about being used in Abhimanyu Birla's great plan of let's-mindfùck the older-sister-to-change-her-no-into-a-yes-by-getting-engaged-to-the-younger-one-with-the-sole-purpose-of-dumping-her-at-the-altar.

That is the basis of Abhira and "anger issues" doesn't even begin to cover why Abhimanyu Birla is trash and has always been so.

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: firewings_diya

@bold totally agree on this. If nav died or turn negative ppl will blame that abhira ko reunion karana tha and they can't show progressive show. They have to show regressive content etc.

But for Abhimanyu's character nobody wants to understand it was all trp game. They had to show this for trp. They had to butcher him for trp like how they butchered everyone to show akshu as abla bechari.

Because no matter how much we deny indian audience like abla bechari naari's. To get that character on fl the ml is the only scape goat in s3 who can do that.

S2 had many characters who were against naira so karthik had less scope to humiliate naira.

But s3 abhi is the strongest character. In his presence no one can touch her so they made abhi to do the honors. 😔


I mean I get it, they have to run their house too and if this tried and tested formula works then of course they will use it. Though, I did expect higher trps but koi nai.

But then I've watched many shows so I'm used to seeing Male leads be downgraded in order to glorify the female lead who can never do any wrong. I'm used to this formula so will not drink it.


One major issue with Indian television is this only. It shows that men will always be jerks and women will always be an abla nari. They ruined Kartik's character too for the same reason. Just see anupama and how Anuj now abandoned Anu. This is again done to bring some spice to the show but is it really worth showing this? Now some people will use this as an example on why you should not remarry. Is this really a good message?

I think only Parvati and Tulsi had badass tracks which justified the leaps but yaha Akshara has no voice of her own for one to root for her. Bechari he bana diya hain bas. I don't want to feel daya for Akshara, I want to root for her which isn't happening for someone who thinks law exams are a joke.


I think only few Male leads have been shown with a proper balance. Examples include Naitik, Om from KGGK, Suraj from Diya aur batti. Makers need to revise their characters for their Male leads (not cameos).

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: Deltablues

Abhi gaslighted Akshara and faked an engagement with her sister so that she accepts the love only he knew she had for him. Abhira fans hate Arohi because she's embittered about being used in Abhimanyu Birla's great plan of let's-mindfùck the older-sister-to-change-her-no-into-a-yes-by-getting-engaged-to-the-younger-one-with-the-sole-purpose-of-dumping-her-at-the-altar.

That is the basis of Abhira and "anger issues" doesn't even begin to cover why Abhimanyu Birla is trash and has always been so.


Abhi did not fake the engagement. Arohi used Manjari's health issue as a crutch to manipulate Abhi. Akshara was ready to donate Abhi in order to satisfy Arohi as if he were a toy. If you go back, you will see how wrong Akshara was that time along with Arohi. If you reall think Arohi was being used then kya he bolu mein

I mean for sure its absolutely okay to be a fraud and lie to Abhi about saving him in the fire.


Abhi had anger issues, he was not a monster. Many people have anger issues, not all end up throwing their spouse out of the house. If you want to count mistakes then Akshara and Arohi are no saints either. Hit and run case was a big no no but makers brushed it under the carpet.

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: Kacchakela21

Right? Right from the beginning of this track not once has she given any indication of wanting to go back to Abhimanyu. In the first Kasauli episode she was just thankful to God for all that he had given her. Amd then we hear people saying how she should be "ashamed " of being with Abhinav 2hile still carrying the great Saint Manyu jn her heart. Are we the only people not seeing it? 🤔

Yes from the beginning of the leap, she was thankful and happy with the life she got. After Udaipur trip, after the confrontation with Abhimanyu, she got her closure and has put the past away forever and has moved on totally. There is no hesitation, no awkwardness in her interaction with Abhinav. In fact, she is really glowing in his presence. That date scene, the light teasing with Abhinav, the way she put kajal on him, all looked so normal and at ease. Even during the puja, she was basking in happiness. But according to shippers, she is still acting. This is a special kind of logic that only AbhiRa shippers understand.

For me, Akshara is finally leading a happy life. I was always invested in Akshara's journey. She was the apple of her parents' eyes. But ever since Naira died, the poor thing is subjected to one misery after another. She didn't get the complete acceptance and love in her maayka or sasural. But with Abhinav, she got all that. She is leading a happy, content life that her parents' wished for her. And Abhinav is gem of a guy, who understands and values her like she should be. He treats his wife with respect, cares for her and loves her, all without forcing his decisions on her. That is the sort of life every one will want. It looks natural and flows easily. That's why I love the track after leap.

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