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Posted: 14 years ago
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Was it always her goal to belittle you Mr. Naitik? ( Please no citations of Akshara's recent subconcious utterences in jiffy). When since did she actively start competing Miss popular congeniality eclipsing you Mr. Naitik? Since Miss Chandni mesmerized you in signing that 1 cr. Check, defrauding and lulling you into complacent trivia or Dance practices? Did she actively conspire with RR in breaking your leg and thereby making you inundated? Actually the trigger itself –RR,Akshara Dialogue- points to some traced lingering insecurities, huh? Especially after participating a lovey-dovey couple just an hour earlier?! Or was it all about a suppressed dismay to see your wife's judgement vindicated against your own- case of bruised ego? Confused. For we had seen her allying your preparations in a spirit of a camaraderie up until Chandani, even afterwards, trying to caution you- but it was you who used to cut her short. Then afterwards, the accident was her primary heed. It was her genuine concern to keep your injury accounted and rested, but perhaps not very tactfully- in not handling your injury references more discretely or diplomatically! But it didn't appear a deliberate show of hogging lime light- for is she not ascribing all the work as a joint effort, all along? Your demand for attention (or lack thereof), that too in time of such a chaotic social event in the house, is even more childish. Your sudden cropping up of domestic neglect or de-prioritized relationship in the normal time is somewhat valid, but highly importunate at the hour when your sister is getting married. Stay grown up, as you have been- of lately.😊

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: smrth

Was it always her goal to belittle you Mr. Naitik? ( Please no citations of Akshara's recent subconcious utterences in jiffy). When since did she actively start competing Miss popular congeniality eclipsing you Mr. Naitik? Since Miss Chandni mesmerized you in signing that 1 cr. Check, defrauding and lulling you into complacent trivia or Dance practices? Did she actively conspire with RR in breaking your leg and thereby making you inundated? Actually the trigger itself 'RR,Akshara Dialogue- points to some traced lingering insecurities, huh? Especially after participating a lovey-dovey couple just an hour earlier?! Or was it all about a suppressed dismay to see your wife's judgement vindicated against your own- case of bruised ego? Confused. For we had seen her allying your preparations in a spirit of a camaraderie up until Chandani, even afterwards, trying to caution you- but it was you who used to cut her short. Then afterwards, the accident was her primary heed. It was her genuine concern to keep your injury accounted and rested, but perhaps not very tactfully- in not handling your injury references more discretely or diplomatically! But it didn't appear a deliberate show of hogging lime light- for is she not ascribing all the work as a joint effort, all along? Your demand for attention (or lack thereof), that too in time of such a chaotic social event in the house, is even more childish. Your sudden cropping up of domestic neglect or de-prioritized relationship in the normal time is somewhat valid, but highly importunate at the hour when your sister is getting married. Stay grown up, as you have been- of lately.😊



loved ur post completely... 👏 i had been wanting to say this, but u said it all...😃
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: smrth


<font size="2" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Was it always her goal to belittle you Mr. Naitik? ( Please no citations of Akshara's recent subconcious utterences in jiffy). When
since did she actively start competing Miss popular congeniality eclipsing you
Mr. Naitik? Since Miss Chandni mesmerized you in signing that 1 cr. Check, defrauding
and lulling you into complacent trivia or Dance practices? Did she actively
conspire with RR in breaking your leg and thereby making you inundated?
Actually the trigger itself –RR,Akshara Dialogue- points to some traced
lingering insecurities, huh? Especially after participating a lovey-dovey
couple just an hour earlier?! Or was it all about a suppressed dismay to see
your wife's judgement vindicated against your own- case of bruised ego?
Confused. For we had seen her allying your preparations in a spirit of a camaraderie
up until Chandani, even afterwards, trying to caution you- but it was you who
used to cut her short. Then afterwards, the accident was her primary heed. It
was her genuine concern to keep your injury accounted and rested, but perhaps
not very tactfully- in not handling your injury references more discretely or diplomatically!
But it didn't appear a deliberate show of hogging lime light- for is she not ascribing
all the work as a joint effort, all along? Your demand for attention (or lack
thereof), that too in time of such a chaotic social event in the house, is even
more childish. Your sudden cropping up of domestic neglect or de-prioritized
relationship in the normal time is somewhat valid, but highly importunate at
the hour when your sister is getting married. Stay grown up, as you have been-
of lately.😊</font>


Wow... 👏 Wholeheartedly Agree with you... 😊 This is exactly what is running in my mind right now...
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: smrth

Was it always her goal to belittle you Mr. Naitik? ( Please no citations of Akshara's recent subconcious utterences in jiffy). When since did she actively start competing Miss popular congeniality eclipsing you Mr. Naitik? Since Miss Chandni mesmerized you in signing that 1 cr. Check, defrauding and lulling you into complacent trivia or Dance practices? Did she actively conspire with RR in breaking your leg and thereby making you inundated? Actually the trigger itself 'RR,Akshara Dialogue- points to some traced lingering insecurities, huh? Especially after participating a lovey-dovey couple just an hour earlier?! Or was it all about a suppressed dismay to see your wife's judgement vindicated against your own- case of bruised ego? Confused. For we had seen her allying your preparations in a spirit of a camaraderie up until Chandani, even afterwards, trying to caution you- but it was you who used to cut her short. Then afterwards, the accident was her primary heed. It was her genuine concern to keep your injury accounted and rested, but perhaps not very tactfully- in not handling your injury references more discretely or diplomatically! But it didn't appear a deliberate show of hogging lime light- for is she not ascribing all the work as a joint effort, all along? Your demand for attention (or lack thereof), that too in time of such a chaotic social event in the house, is even more childish. Your sudden cropping up of domestic neglect or de-prioritized relationship in the normal time is somewhat valid, but highly importunate at the hour when your sister is getting married. Stay grown up, as you have been- of lately.😊


it's not the question of "always"...if we all remember, when akshara accused naitik of being insensitive to her feelings bec. he never wanted a child, at that moment, did she think what all naitik did for her? she can think so low of him on what basis? it was a moment of anger or pent up feelings which came out in the form of frustration..she never meant it right? a small MU is nothing in front of what Naitik did for Akshara but Akshara NEVER valued it, it's a fact...

what is consistent is akshara having time for everything in this world except naitik...what is NOT consistent is Naitik accusing her this way...if akshara can take care of anshu's kurta, kaki's worry, bma chabi so on and so forth she can def. ask naitik why he is feeling sad and what can she do to make him feel better...she had the time to go in search of anshu but she never had 2 mins to spare for naitik...yes, it was naitik's fault to hire chandni , if he had known she wud not do her work properly, he wouldn't have called her in the first place..he wanted a grand wedding for his sis and therez nothing wrong with the idea...along with that, he wanted to take off the workload from akshara n he discussed it with her...she never appreciated any of his efforts..was it SO wrong like maate said??? .yes, his choice of varmala cud be wrong but can't akshara discuss everything with him and do all the arrangements so that he feels his view is important???? so that he feels that he's doing some work in his sister's wedding??? yes he needed rest but how can he sit in the corner in his sister's wedding , couldn't akshara understand one simple thing? therez lot of work that he cud do while sitting but maate never let him do that also...fine, it skipped her mind completely that naitik will think that way BUT this is what naitik is complaining about !

if we look at the bigger picture, naitik is right... yes, may be akshara is not doing everything to impress everyone but her parivar prem is just too much to handle, too unrealistic specially if it's weighed against naitik's love...rashmi meri behen hai n all that, maate crying more than rashmi, & gayitri 🤣 pahleez, it's never that way...rashmi behen hai toh she's her behen bec. of naitik, her husband...when naitik is out of the picture, rishte nibha ke kya milega? her argument that we are one is useless..i dun find any base to it...if they were one, naitik will not be complaining tdy...

Naitik never took RR's name in all this..he heard akshara saying that naitik cannot do xyz job n hence the argument and misunderstanding...he heard the same from his relative, RR but he never expected akshara to say it...n i guess everyone agree with me here that she shouldn't have said it , she should be extra careful with RR bec. she knows Naitik is very touchy abt this topic
Edited by _charu_ - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: _charu_


it's not the question of "always"...if we all remember, when akshara accused naitik of being insensitive to her feelings bec. he never wanted a child, at that moment, did she think what all naitik did for her? she can think so low of him on what basis? it was a moment of anger or pent up feelings which came out in the form of frustration..she never meant it right? a small MU is nothing in front of what Naitik did for Akshara but Akshara NEVER valued it, it's a fact...

what is consistent is akshara having time for everything in this world except naitik...what is NOT consistent is Naitik accusing her this way...if akshara can take care of anshu's kurta, kaki's worry, bma chabi so on and so forth she can def. ask naitik why he is feeling sad and what can she do to make him feel better...she had the time to go in search of anshu but she never had 2 mins to spare for naitik...yes, it was naitik's fault to hire chandni , if he had known she wud not do her work properly, he wouldn't have called her in the first place..he wanted a grand wedding for his sis and therez nothing wrong with the idea...along with that, he wanted to take off the workload from akshara n he discussed it with her...she never appreciated any of his efforts..was it SO wrong like maate said??? .yes, his choice of varmala cud be wrong but can't akshara discuss everything with him and do all the arrangements so that he feels his view is important???? so that he feels that he's doing some work in his sister's wedding??? yes he needed rest but how can he sit in the corner in his sister's wedding , couldn't akshara understand one simple thing? therez lot of work that he cud do while sitting but maate never let him do that also...fine, it skipped her mind completely that naitik will think that way BUT this is what naitik is complaining about !

if we look at the bigger picture, naitik is right... yes, may be akshara is not doing everything to impress everyone but her parivar prem is just too much to handle, too unrealistic specially if it's weighed against naitik's love...rashmi meri behen hai n all that, maate crying more than rashmi, & gayitri 🤣 pahleez, it's never that way...rashmi behen hai toh she's her behen bec. of naitik, her husband...when naitik is out of the picture, rishte nibha ke kya milega? her argument that we are one is useless..i dun find any base to it...if they were one, naitik will not be complaining tdy...

Naitik never took RR's name in all this..he heard akshara saying that naitik cannot do xyz job n hence the argument and misunderstanding...he heard the same from his relative, RR but he never expected akshara to say it...n i guess everyone agree with me here that she shouldn't have said it , she should be extra careful with RR bec. she knows Naitik is very touchy abt this topic


agree with u charu di...akshara can see everydodys sad face expect naitik...
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Charu,

Lately i tend to concur on artificial Akshara and u know this. 'Always' here is referring to Cvs never exhausting parade of MU circles of singular shape, size and colors. If these rounds were forgotten for a while, they are falling back on the same old trick. The sarcasm is more directed to poor timing or sudden outburst from nowhere, especially after 'relived' memories. Besides, on Akshi-RR dialogue he ought to show better interpretation re Akshara's underlying concern, especially after hard learnt lessons.

On Akshara's time for everyone but him, I agree partially. But again, are we not being showed frequent Naksh scenes side aside family attendances by Akshara? Both are turning repetitive. Lastly, Anshu's Kurta, Bma's chabi etc. are as tiresome as 'Akshi not finding time for N. I agree character Akshi needs to be scratched better or lifted out of the rut. But today He was adamant in outburst...Perhaps, I like to pick on him because somewhere we tend to become extra critical of vague alter egos or our own errors that we'd come across fuzzily at some unexpected places, right? So please indulge my own outbursts...😊

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: smrth

Charu,

Lately i tend to concur on artificial Akshara and u know this. 'Always' here is referring to Cvs never exhausting parade of MU circles of singular shape, size and colors. If these rounds were forgotten for a while, they are falling back on the same old trick. The sarcasm is more directed to poor timing or sudden outburst from nowhere, especially after 'relived' memories. Besides, on Akshi-RR dialogue he ought to show better interpretation re Akshara's underlying concern, especially after hard learnt lessons.

On Akshara's time for everyone but him, I agree partially. But again, are we not being showed frequent Naksh scenes side aside family attendances by Akshara? Both are turning repetitive. Lastly, Anshu's Kurta, Bma's chabi etc. are as tiresome as 'Akshi not finding time for N. I agree character Akshi needs to be scratched better or lifted out of the rut. But today He was adamant in outburst...Perhaps, I like to pick on him because somewhere we tend to become extra critical of vague alter egos or our own errors that we'd come across fuzzily at some unexpected places, right? So please indulge my own outbursts...😊


Well said...Essentially, Naitik's words today were a continuous rant brought on by the Aksh-RR conversation. There was no justification for it, given that just a few minutes prior he was the doting husband. I do think his intention was to call her on the RR conversation, but it morphed into anything but that...to boot, his timing was absolutely horrible. Having taken a hiatus from this show for a few months, I fully agree that Aksh's character needs some serious tweaking--2 years later!!! We all know that the perfect bahu does not exist...its what each of us as married women make of that role. This depiction of a woman who has time for everyone but sparingly for her husband is completely flawed & unrealistic. There are plenty of women who live and work in joint families all over India and the world who are able to strike the right balance between their extended families and the needs of their spouse. This characterization is particularly glaring when Naitik and Akshara are, indeed, so close. The continuous breakdown in communication and in the relationship does not add up...

Akshara's role in Naitik's life is far beyond the person who dresses, serves, and bids him & goodbye at the door. She is his confidante & by dent of their relationship as husband and wife, he shares a kinship with her that he shares with no other. Yes, Naitik has a right to expect more from her (attention, love, respect) as result of this relationship; however, he also has a responsibility as to how this is communicated to his spouse. This goes vice versa for Aksh as well...Why is it that almost every 'serious' conversation always comes about as a misunderstanding or is voiced in an emotional rant? Why is it that tears are a necessary part of it? Emotions worn so thin on the shirt lapel & the sari pallu? An MU proceeded by a makeup session to appease the audience? I think the CVs have worked on Naitik's character to some extent as compared to the newlywed Naitik; I would also like to see some depth in Aksh's character, particularly in how she views her emotional relationship with her husband. I do hope the CVs give us more insight into this facet of their relationship...
Edited by Nandalala - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: smrth

Charu,

Lately i tend to concur on artificial Akshara and u know this. 'Always' here is referring to Cvs never exhausting parade of MU circles of singular shape, size and colors. If these rounds were forgotten for a while, they are falling back on the same old trick. The sarcasm is more directed to poor timing or sudden outburst from nowhere, especially after 'relived' memories. Besides, on Akshi-RR dialogue he ought to show better interpretation re Akshara's underlying concern, especially after hard learnt lessons.

On Akshara's time for everyone but him, I agree partially. But again, are we not being showed frequent Naksh scenes side aside family attendances by Akshara? Both are turning repetitive. Lastly, Anshu's Kurta, Bma's chabi etc. are as tiresome as 'Akshi not finding time for N. I agree character Akshi needs to be scratched better or lifted out of the rut. But today He was adamant in outburst...Perhaps, I like to pick on him because somewhere we tend to become extra critical of vague alter egos or our own errors that we'd come across fuzzily at some unexpected places, right? So please indulge my own outbursts...😊


absolutely yaar, his timing was not right..i said he's wrong bec. he expects akshara to give him priority but that never happened so he should have been habitual by now 😆... remember this outburst was saved from the day chandni came into the picture..or rather, from the time rashmi's wedding arrangements started...naitik clearly stated a lot of times that he's feeling helpless that he cannot do any work in his sister's marriage, so was it so difficult for her to involve naitik in the arrangements ? only if she consulted him n taken his suggestions, he wud have felt better..i'm sick n tired of cribbing , this marriage turned out the be the worst illogical track of YR..pehle they made naitik handicap then he's acting blind 🤢 then his irritation , then the patch up, ghatiya varmala sequence and now this...in each n every sequence , there is no base to their argument...like akshara never had a base for her allegations which she put on naitik.

i picked on "always" bec. it's not "always" that naitik is cribbing ..he has adjusted to her routine n hardly complains , woh bhi when their POV's hardly match..if we look at the bigger picture then it's not like he has done nothing for akshara...lets limit our argument to this particular track...n akshara has her share of mistakes ..he did not mess up the arrangements and akshara fixed it...it was gayitri who wanted a planner, naitik only supported her idea and went ahead with it, n he was right ..why didn't akshara argue with her MA for hiring a planner? it was Gayitri who was responsible for messing up everything and then maate had to do everything in 2 days 🤢 all said and done, why is she giving excuses of doing work frm safety pin to varmala to naitik? she had time for everybody except him...that means he should wait for his turn?? for a change, why can't she understand where she faultered? or naitik's allegations are totally baseless? 😕

yes, we're being shown frequent naksh scenes where akshara was asking naitik to rest n take medicines 😆 but this was not enuf, for me, NO, for naitik also , it didn't ..it is HE who has to decide ...he wanted diff. treatment n akshara did not understand n that's why he's complaining..in love, the needs of the partner have to be understood, if we do everything our way then we can def. falter...that's what maate did...
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Well said...Essentially, Naitik's words today were a continuous rant brought on by the Aksh-RR conversation. There was no justification for it, given that just a few minutes prior he was the doting husband. I do think his intention was to call her on the RR conversation, but it morphed into anything but that...to boot, his timing was absolutely horrible. Having taken a hiatus from this show for a few months, I fully agree that Aksh's character needs some serious tweaking--2 years later!!! We all know that the perfect bahu does not exist...its what each of us as married women make of that role. This depiction of a woman who has time for everyone but sparingly for her husband is completely flawed & unrealistic. There are plenty of women who live and work in joint families all over India and the world who are able to strike the right balance between their extended families and the needs of their spouse. This characterization is particularly glaring when Naitik and Akshara are, indeed, so close. The continuous breakdown in communication and in the relationship does not add up...

Akshara's role in Naitik's life is far beyond the person who dresses, serves, and bids him & goodbye at the door. She is his confidante & by dent of their relationship as husband and wife, he shares a kinship with her that he shares with no other. Yes, Naitik has a right to expect more from her (attention, love, respect) as result of this relationship; however, he also has a responsibility as to how this is communicated to his spouse. This goes vice versa for Aksh as well...Why is it that almost every 'serious' conversation always comes about as a misunderstanding or is voiced in an emotional rant? Why is it that tears are a necessary part of it? Emotions worn so thin on the shirt lapel & the sari pallu? An MU proceeded by a makeup session to appease the audience? I think the CVs have worked on Naitik's character to some extent as compared to the newlywed Naitik; I would also like to see some depth in Aksh's character, particularly in how she views her emotional relationship with her husband. I do hope the CVs give us more insight into this facet of their relationship...


Anji, that he's done very well...it's very unusual bec. females r much much better in communicating than men...previously at the time of mc, akshara's outburst was totally baseless, naitik ignored her once and she went on and on with "aapko sab apni tarah karna hai" 🤢 at that moment, naitik asked her 2-3 times when he saw her upset but she never communicated to him what was troubling her...and here, naitik clearly said a lot of times that he's feeling helpless , he's not liking it that he won't be able to do any work but akshara never paid attention n prolly thought that he's worried ke sab kaise hoga he also told her once that in all prev. weddings, akshara had to do all the work n she had no time for him so this time, bec. of the planner, they will be able to enjoy the wedding together...what does that imply? maate never takes any clues , she's lost in her own world of kaam, kitchen , ma and gharwale ...in the midst of all this, she never listen to him...as if his view is of no importance to her..okay baisa didn't create an issue out of her mc, but when naitik asked her not to tell the truth to her, why did she do it? phir ye theek nahi hai woh theek nahi hai naitik ..when the decorator asked naitik abt the arrangements, why can't she consult him "naitik kaunsa design acha hai?" ...her approach in tackling her husband is wrong n hence these MU keep cropping up..she's understood the demands of kitchen kaam gharwale well but not her husband...

lemme assure you guys one thing...maate who readily solved bindiya's problem will not be able to solve her problems with naitik over the same issue ! n this track is coming next...pucca...now naitik will not have time for maate n maate will have the time of her life.
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Anji, that he's done very well...it's very unusual bec. females r much much better in communicating than men...previously at the time of mc, akshara's outburst was totally baseless, naitik ignored her once and she went on and on with "aapko sab apni tarah karna hai" 🤢 at that moment, naitik asked her 2-3 times when he saw her upset but she never communicated to him what was troubling her...and here, naitik clearly said a lot of times that he's feeling helpless , he's not liking it that he won't be able to do any work but akshara never paid attention n prolly thought that he's worried ke sab kaise hoga he also told her once that in all prev. weddings, akshara had to do all the work n she had no time for him so this time, bec. of the planner, they will be able to enjoy the wedding together...what does that imply? maate never takes any clues , she's lost in her own world of kaam, kitchen , ma and gharwale ...in the midst of all this, she never listen to him...as if his view is of no importance to her..okay baisa didn't create an issue out of her mc, but when naitik asked her not to tell the truth to her, why did she do it? phir ye theek nahi hai woh theek nahi hai naitik ..when the decorator asked naitik abt the arrangements, why can't she consult him "naitik kaunsa design acha hai?" ...her approach in tackling her husband is wrong n hence these MU keep cropping up..she's understood the demands of kitchen kaam gharwale well but not her husband...

lemme assure you guys one thing...maate who readily solved bindiya's problem will not be able to solve her problems with naitik over the same issue ! n this track is coming next...pucca...now naitik will not have time for maate n maate will have the time of her life.


atleast koi toh naitik ke side me hai...nahi toh all sympathising akshara...

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