18.9.2016 ep - Page 2

Originally posted by: Mdwst

@ Maya perfect lines

I understand that mdwst is pretty upset with the BC issue.
Actually its no big deal.
Infact errors do occur in such certificates(thats how it is referred to,thats all it is).
I myself am aware of changes made in it by relatives due to errors.
This is quite common n the the dumbest proof.
The cvs are giving this certificate undue imp .
This is shags work n ofcourse the bhallas n ramam did not care as they were playing wide-ranginghubby,pihu's parents.
Remember,how some teacher knew that shags was not pihu's mom.
This fact is not secret within the family,but only for pihu.
The way I see it,raman was guilty of pushing ishu to suicide n did notwant pihu to ever know about this.
He could have easily married shags n completely covered his mistake.
But he hated her too much.
Sometimes I feel that raman did have doubts over pihu's mom being shags.(not an impossible event)
He was doing things to keep shags too silent about ishu's identity.
This is a familiar trait of raman to me.
As usual he is at a loss about how to come out of the mess he had created.
Answer ishu.
Raman was repeatedly doing mistakes to hide one.
His first was opting for surr against ishu's wishes.
Raman belongs to that category.
Under normal circumstances,such marriages will end in divorce,.
I
Many might not agree but there are many creatures on this planet who long to become a dad.

Originally posted by: Mdwst

It was a traumatizing episode

Her croc tears, her screeching voice, her whole stance , her reasoning ...couldnt take it. She's legally pihu's mom..evidence..BC...

The minute Shagun says... pihu's BC..Raman is shocked ...as it clearly states sharam as birth parents of pihu

Adi ...is denied service at a store...seriously..this is too much...adi is upset and mihika goes to talk to him..miku mu's him that he's trying to commit suicude..aaliya comes to meet adi..she trusts him...

Ishra

They were devastated

Raman is wondering..looks at Ishita ...

Raman closes his moth with his palms..meaning he was aware of it..and it just hit him...same reaction from Toshiji Ji...they never expected this ..that Shagun will use it to her benefit...that means the bhallas were aware of it...they did not object to it either..it means they've erased Ishita completely from their lives...and pihu's life..to them Ishita never existed..a clean slate...for a new beginning..

Ishita was broken ..stunned...could not wrap around as to what just happened..a disappointment..I think she realized her true state..her as to, where she stands...what she is in their lives...no mother should go through this, she does not deserve this..this proved that Ishita is a bhaanj in every sense..signed..sealed..delivered ...but ..I guess mothers in the forum might agree to this...

Ishita asks him didn't you even think about this?..

She asks "why didn't you write my name ?"

His reply .." How can I write your name, you know the situation that time, I didn't know I had to deal with this or ever to see this day"... This line negated..." I'm ashamed to ..that he rented her womb"... So to him and the bhallas Ishita is dead...then why wasn't Pihu told that her mom is dead...are they showing Ishita as a runaway here?!...Really...I have no,words here...as I will literally loose it now...I'm going to stay quiet ..but would like to read comments just based on his reply...it's gonna be interesting.

His reasoning sucked big time...

Her lines " she's my Ansh..one chance..and that too in her hands"... That one chance...holds an intense/deep meaning...to her this is it..no more kids..for him it's not so..it's his 3rd child..( though their one and only child)...he has not understood it yet...to him it's just a road block...mani denies it case closed..but he has bit understood how much Ishita is hurt ..denied the status of bringing be a mother even on paper ..the birth certificate..it's NOT just a birth certificate...it IS A birth certificate

Woman you just got denied to be even stated as a mother in the BC...and you are ok with it...im disappointed in you...but I understand ur now concerned with the custody...but keep this in mind..you were denied even on birth certificate .

Looks like mani was not interested in going to court ..but as aaliya talked about adi...ticked him to testify in favor of Shagun..

And mani you really believe Ishita brainwashed aaliya..you are even a bigger idiot...

Means you never knew your friend,..

And what does Shagun has / possesses...that people just dance to her tunes?...I'm really amazed at this...

Raman on stand..

He says Shagun is just a surrogate as Ishita couldn't nit carry the baby...I'm ashamed now...I rented her womb...

So he says that he thought Ruhi is dead and Ishita committed suicude...it was not done on purpose..yes I forgot to change the name in BC ...it was my mistake ...( forgot ...really...lamest reason I've ever heard)...Shagun can't give what Ishita and I can give Pihu..I'm her ex husband..we have 2 kids.,even they can testify on Shagun..she's in a number of relationships...even her husband is not here to support her"...reasoning unacceptable...sorry..no offense...

Ishita in witness box

Yes she took care of my kid..but we wanted her as a surrogate mother "...

Mani enters...he's there to support Shagun

Pihu on witness stand

She clearly states she wants to stay with Shagun...

She doesn't like Ishita aunty..so she's leaving her dad...she says,,ever since she came ..."she's become more important than me and listens to her"...Ishita is hurt...

ustody goes to Shagun

Precap

Ramam wakes up...and panicking as its late for school..aaliya questions mani..

Precap... Was good

Overall good

Raman was aware of the BC

Divan nailed every scene

Adi and aaliya were good

He is not ashamed to include his ex wife/ adulteress ...but refused to pay homage to his late wife as he himself agreed ..she committed suicude...I mean who does this...

What was their relationship all about?... Doesn't have any value?..

I wish Ishita asked Raman ... " am I not fit to be recognized even on paper?"

With Shagun Bhalla on BC.. It's evident they didn't waste anytime to wipe out Ishita...minutes after his wife's death..he and the bhallas christened her, or should I say approved Shagun to be pihu's mom and even legalized her as his wife and the mother of Pihu...

Even now Pihu is not aware who Ishita is ...so Pihu will never know...it's better it stays that way.

Ishita was shattered..it's prolly going on in her mind...what am I? Who am I to them! Was i not good enough.? Am I not worth it? Why am I being denied my right? Am I not a woman, a human being ?..do I deserve this?Am I a nobody"?

If i was Ishita..after the BC fiasco..I will not accept my name to be added in the birth certificate of my child...it's not a consolation prize...It's not that my ego is hurt or I'm insulted...

To me I'm denied being a mother or even acknowledged as a mother., to my own flesh and blood.,.its painful and it hurts...I'm denied my right...on paper...a birth certificate...the first milestone in my life..being a mother..a moment the first document that states me as a mother...the one I longed for my whole life...my very existence...wiped off...it proved I'm nothing..worthless creature...in fact I will not even allow my daughter to know..that I'm her mother...there is nothing that binds me to anyone anymore..I'm a nobody

But one thing is clear...the relationship will never be the same after this mother of all screw ups...

yes I may forgive ...not completely though...but I will never forget...

There's nothing wrong being a single parent..times have changed...let

Ramans name be on the BC...or better yet...let it stay as is...when the damage is done..there's no point in changing the names anymore.

It will be great if Aliya finds Shagun as the culprit for Acid Attack and records all this information and how she ordered kidnappers to kidnap off Nidhi kidnappers and then order to kill Ishita and how she is using Pihu.

Ishita could have resolved all this if she just recorded Shagun confession like she showed on video monitor of the union leader but CV's want to drag it out so the reunion between Ishita, Aliya Adi and Pihu is more bigger and emotional. I hope Ishita breaks friendship from Mani now as in trouble its only when you find your true friends. Mani believes everything evil but not once believed a confession letter from Anil Nagpal a person who committed suicide. Some friend that supports someone that wanted his friend to die.

Shagun has also form for asking Nidhi and Ashok if they did acid attack on Aliya like with Ishita kidnapping but in reality she just wants to pull the scent off her.

Originally posted by: GBSC

I understand that mdwst is pretty upset with the BC issue.
Actually its no big deal.
Infact errors do occur in such certificates(thats how it is referred to,thats all it is).
I myself am aware of changes made in it by relatives due to errors.
This is quite common n the the dumbest proof.
The cvs are giving this certificate undue imp .
This is shags work n ofcourse the bhallas n ramam did not care as they were playing wide-ranginghubby,pihu's parents.
Remember,how some teacher knew that shags was not pihu's mom.
This fact is not secret within the family,but only for pihu.
The way I see it,raman was guilty of pushing ishu to suicide n did notwant pihu to ever know about this.
He could have easily married shags n completely covered his mistake.
But he hated her too much.
Sometimes I feel that raman did have doubts over pihu's mom being shags.(not an impossible event)
He was doing things to keep shags too silent about ishu's identity.
This is a familiar trait of raman to me.
As usual he is at a loss about how to come out of the mess he had created.
Answer ishu.
Raman was repeatedly doing mistakes to hide one.
His first was opting for surr against ishu's wishes.
Raman belongs to that category.
Under normal circumstances,such marriages will end in divorce,.
I
Many might not agree but there are many creatures on this planet who long to become a dad.

Errr viji I'm cursing myself..! Y do I even read your review.. It's heart wrenching 😭 You said everything.. Nothing more to add..
Just now caught up with the epi... And the first question that came to my mind is where is ishra's lawyer? 😕 Heck I was expecting till the last moment someone will stand up and defend but all I saw was Shagun's lawyer and infamous judge 😆 Cv's have lost their mind... Shagun k liye track likthe likthe unke dimaag bhi kaam karna band kardiya.. 😆
Raman actually said everything about Shagun but still the judge didn't call ruhi or adi for testimony? Weird.. so the saviour Mani comes and the custody is granted for Shagun? Y? Coz her husband supports her? She herself accepted that she is a surrogate but still the judge ignored that... So basically the BC was invalid... Coz she was not married to Raman then how come she added her name? One dialogue of Raman cracked me up that he said to judge... "Woh aurat ko kud nahi patha uske kitne relationships reh chuke hain " 😆 And Shagun's reaction was like Raman wait, picture (list) abhi baaki hai 🤣 Divan were brilliant throughout the epi...
Rest Shagun's crocodile tears and that drama was unbearable... Will she stop cleaning her teeth while mouthing dialogues? She thinks that was very stylish but that accent was really funny... And that curtains that she was wearing 😆 I bet the judge was all fida on her blouse and granted the custody to Shagun... Warna koi logic nazar nahi aaraha hai mereko... There the biological parents are shouting their lungs out but overlooking everything the custody was granted to surrogate and her new husband
About the infamous BC🥱 Raman was reacting as if woh kuch nahi hai, sirf BC... For godsake that's BIRTH CERTIFICATE NOT SOME RANDOM REPORT CARD THAT U'VE SIGNED 😡 THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF SURROGACY WENT INTO THE DRAINS.. HE WANTED TO GIFT THIS CHILD TO ISHITA OUT OF HIS GUILT, BUT HERE ONCE AGAIN HE GIFTED IT TO SHAGUN AND LITERALLY PROVED THAT ISHITA WAS IS AND WILL BE A BAANJ NO MATTER WHAT.. THAT CHILD DOESN'T EVEN KNOW WHO IS HER REAL MOTHER... RAMAN HIMSELF SNATCHED THE RIGHTS OF A MOTHER FROM ISHITA... PPL CAN JUSTIFY HIM HOW MUCH THEY WANT BUT DOESN'T CHANGE THE FACT THAT HE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS BLUNDER... OKAY WHILE WRITING BC HE WAS TRAUMATIZED SO HE DIDN'T NOTICE BUT I'M SURE WHILE JOINING PIHU TO SCHOOL THEY WOULD HAVE ASKED FOR BC, THEN ALSO HE DIDN'T FELT IT NECESSARY TO CHANGE THE NAME... SO IF A WOMEN IS DEAD THEN U'LL DENY HER RIGHTS EVEN ON THE LEGAL DOCUMENTS OF THE CHILD AND GIVE THE NAME OF ANY RANDOM WOMEN? NICE... 👏

Just thought came to my mind..that you remember during initial leap episode some child said shagun is not her mother and teacher also did know. But at that time to convince pihu there brought some weird story and old pics. Maybe at that time Raman might have changed BC to convince pihu...

Viji, heart wrenching review..

Originally posted by: ramishi

@traveller

I don't think present surname matters here...because in case of divorce also the couple can marry someone else and can still fight custody cases with different surname than the one which is in BC...imo

But i am shocked that they wrote shgaun bhalla without being legally married at that time😲...God my head is spinning imagining the scene where they thought of writing shagun's surname as bhalla in BC.

It doesn't seem they had any plan to change the mothers name in BC in near future had ishita not been alive today.