Birds And The Bees With Ishita & Shagun - Page 13

Originally posted by: EkPaheli

Vyas you have your stand I have mine - you think Ishita is at fault I dont, I dont think she has backed off or stopped Raman, you think like a guy I think like a girl - the twain dont meet much now do they? Because I dont agree with you and vice versa

Originally posted by: bscorp13

Hi Aani

Interesting take!

Hi, sorry I cant recall your name 😳 and thank you

I so wish the cvs try even to convey some of the things you mentioned but looking at ye way the episode yesterday was scripted and how the party seq has been suddenly inserted into what was a fairly decent intriguing family drama the last few days it just feels like a rush to wrap up consummation ..since the baby track has to start...

Thats their theme isnt it kill the climax, while excite the build up

Like the viewers. ..the cvs too seem to want to complete the formality of the long overdue consummation before the honeymoon (something tells me the production team has already made travel plans...cos of the epi bank and the sudden mad rush).

Could be and if it is so lets see

Hence ishita is suddenly insecure...shagun appeared out of nowhere for the 'talk' yest ( else cvs would have never let go a chance to reintroduce ruhi arora with all drama pissible..the way they went about the mumbai track). Shagun is the only one who can make ishita insecure about her lack of attractiveness ...yes..but that track is now long overdue as well ...the right time for this entire build up and everything b that you have explained to fall in place was the kuch kuch hota hai moment ...the audience woulf have surely related to it then...now that ship has long sailed...

I know what you mean but darn Indian tv cvs believe that you have to keep the couple apart for a year at the least before they do it else TRPs would go for a landslide and you have nothing left to show

Imo this entire track startinh with yest epi building up to consummation ..is same ol ..tried n tested stuff..cvs just were too lazy ..so they backtracked their own writing..covering up their obvious error of letting go of far many better occasions to address ishitas insecurity and the elephant in the room..the lack of sex in the marriage. ..

For now I totally cannot relate to ishitas pain...its just going to be drama n entertainment ...culminating hopefully in a steamy big C...trying to make sense of it and deciphering wat the characters might be thinking is just a waste of time...

Cvs I guess have alreafy moved on to more drama in the baby track..this is just the means to get there...

They have been lazy for so long now I have lost track and yeah it has to be drama and tears and more of that because it has to else they cant have TRPs now can they

No offense to anyone who found a lot of insight in yest ishita doc scene or the ones after..barring few things shahun said which needed to hv been said long ago..rest was pure rushed lazy shoddy piece of writing by the cvs.

None taken

Originally posted by: mreshma

@Red...Sorry dear, but even I also never intended to change your POV through my words...😊

Originally posted by: EkPaheli

Originally posted by: --mancityfan--

When did I say we have to agree with each other


But there is nothing wrong in a healthy debate


That is why we are in forum

Originally posted by: mreshma

@ Blue...Sorry dear...If that was what you meant when you opened this thread then I don't think I would have commented at first place...Believe me this was the very first thread I visited today and I made my comments ASAP...Because I felt my thinking was different from what I read here...Anyways I never intend to influence anybody's views, it is just my POV...And I found this thread a suitable one to express it...😊

Originally posted by: teetiana

You changed my thought process.. rather stirred new thoughts..

And, i appreciate your understanding of the subject.. wow.. beautifully worded. Hats off to your understanding 👏

I don't know how old you are but your understanding of relationships is amazing. I don't own even a quarter of your understanding/maturity.

I end up feeling I am so narrow-minded that I had a different perspective when I saw the episode.. but your words changed me. I guess I will be able to see things in a rather open-minded approach next time.

Thanks Teetiana thats really sweet of you, as for age and all...er I am just 29 but am an old soul glad you could find a new perspective thanks to my post 😳

One thing I really loved that you mentioned..

Yes.. even i feel.. above all relations they need to be a man and his woman first.. and then they can be everything else.. something that ISHRA lacks.. I have often tried to discuss this.. and wondered if Raman is a good husband or not.. And, most of my answers were.. yes he is a very good husband but one thing is.. he is more of a father, son, brother, son-in-law, brother-in-law.. and a good family man.. even a good husband and friend.. but is he a lover to Ishita..?? I guess not.. Maybe the CVs didn't project that part .. the last time i felt he was a lover was when people bashed him in the Mani track.. only that little part showcased his lover self. I might be wrong.. but i have always felt.. a man needs to be a lover to a woman .. and the rest can follow.. but the CVs have always retained that part.. They blame Ishita for she has never taken steps ahead.. but i love how your post speaks for both the sides. The CVs Raman is equally at fault I believe.. For in the indian society.. a first time bold woman is a myth.. Yes, they surely turn bold once the man supports them.. but for the first timmers.. even if she wants to.. don't you think a "thought" works.. that "what if i take the first step.. and get rejected?" If Ishita is at fault by shying away.. Raman is also at fault for ignoring things more than regularly.. I remember the silly dialogues CVs gave us.,, like "jab adi k taraf se mera sara problem khatam ho jayega.. then we will"... and then a little family stress and he behaves like a monk.

I am not bashing a character just not happy with the ways CVs potray Love.

And no I know theres no bashing - thats the problem here IshRa have invested in the family too much to think about themselves which is why they have a non existent sex life partly and silly lines are a regular

@bold - thats an angle - yes, we Indian girls are taught to be shy and coy and what not and if you act so, you may be considered cold and an ice maiden, if you dont you are a s**t - so either way we are screwed

P.S- Coming to the end of the whole thing.. If anger leads to consummation..?? will it be fair to the couple?? Shouldnt they showcase such feelings coming naturally to a couple??

Depends on what happens when they are angry right? They may say all those things they havent so far in anger which they couldnt before that might clear the air between them isnt it?

Originally posted by: EkPaheli

I am all for a healthy debate but whats the point if there' no education in it? The point of a debate is to express opinions that may enrich your knowledge and also to prove one is right or has a more accurate view and opinion of things

We are discussing a fictional show on which no one of us makes a living or even remotely makes a profit so I dont see whats the education here and as for proving oneself right over the other...does it even matter when two people have completely different set of ideas regarding the same thing?

I believe in prolonging a discussion when there' something that can be added to it or taken away from it in ours there is clearly neither of these two - we are both repeating the same thing and I for one am not a person who loves repeating herself Vyas, that is my point here.

You may continue this but I really dont see the point of a discussion that is going nowhere and that is not even there in the first place - after all, I am not learning anything from you and the inverse appears to be the same. So just to increase the post count I dont find going on and on as fascinating when there is nothing to talk about really