Birds And The Bees With Ishita & Shagun - Page 11

Originally posted by: s_kavya

Brilliant post Aani 👏

Don't have anything to add more as you have written everything and explained it perfectly.. Thanks for this post a much needed as i see so much bashing of ishita..which i really don't understand why some ppl always behind her 😕 anyway loved your post 😳

Originally posted by: smritishah

Are you serious?

Originally posted by: Dmug

Good write up!! I liked yesterday's episode and i felt shagun was tge right person to do it!! Both ishita and raman are too confortable with the status quo of their relationship they both talk about taking it forward but have never actually tried to make it a successful attempt whenever they have tried to do it the attempt wasnt a success i agree but then they stop trying and wait for the right time which in my opinion highlights their complecency so they both needed to be shaken up and who better than shagun to do it for ishita!! Ashok is gonna be the one for raman and he is also the right person to do it for raman!!

I often feel that ishra both consider each other too fortunate that they have each other's company and support wherein their emotional needs are getting fulfilled but physical needs are also equally important is what they need to understand thats y ishita telling doc that they are best friends is not surprising as they have always been friends first and then lovers!! For them to get the closure as lovers they need to be desperate to have each other and do the deed!! This track cvs have rightly brought in to justify their consummation is lovemaking and not baby making because it stems from ishita's insecurities of her husband not desiring her as a woman and trying to woo him by going out of her character and raman's insecurities about ishita turning out to be another shagun; the though which probably ashok is gonna put in his mind in today's episode and what follows next in the party and being territorial and protective about her!!

Originally posted by: Riahshroff

@Aani that's a great post 😛 Loved everything u have written there.

I was very very upset that Shagun was the one to say those things and belittle Ishita like that once again. I was not very happy with the episode because of that either. Even ranted on insta 😕

But I loved ur post and re watched the episode.

I agree with everything u have said there. Raman and Ishita both need this jolt badly.

I just cannot accept this Shagun they are trying to show us.

And as much as I agree that someone had to do this and push Ishra to the wall and tell them these things. I also feel that CVs have made Shavun that person not only because she is the one who had the power to hurt her but also because this is about showing her in a good light which I hate.

The upcoming dance could have been a really nice track after what we saw yesterday, but once again I feel Ashok , Raman that lady everyone is used in a sick way only so Shagun the saviour can be shown in this new postive light.

I wish instead they had shown an intense sequence. I really really hope these two have heart to heart talk before they move ahead now. I read there is some romantic sequence or so, also read that they have a hm track planned so I don't know what's true and how long they will drag this but I really wish to see them talk and actually confess...straight from the heart. It's because they both love each so much and not for kids. I hope we get this.

Loved the comments by @Aru @Anu @Onepiece and some more others.

👏 👏

PS I'm sorry if I have made this about a Shagun rant instead of Ishra. Plzz tell me if so

I'll edit my comment 😊

Originally posted by: --mancityfan--

Aani

Lot of ppl who are tv soap veterans and don't have any connection with social media feel yesterday that ishita rants were wrong as Raman has been trying for months and it is ishita who has been running away giving excuses

Originally posted by: mreshma

@Bold...Sorry for butting in your reply to another member's comments...and please don't feel that I am offending...I have seen the same thing being said earlier also but for me, now n then, his words only meant for that particular situation where Adi was once again taken away from him, and he was very much under tension n pressure from his mother too...so what he meant was, as he found a solution to the problem he can now start a new life with her, completely tension-free...And yes even I was not happy with the second time, but since he was crying and regretting his action at that very moment too, I was just pacified a little...

Originally posted by: paru_rox

Aani ... loved the write up 👏. But then when you write, I always know it would be that.

Thanks Paru and how are you so long? 😃

Physical intimacy is one of the bases of a marriage. I no longer want to say that Ishita or Raman are responsible for the exasperatingly idiotic dry spell going on in their marriage. Somehow both (actually the CV's) completely missed the train on this one aspect in the show.

Yep

After the initial confession of their feelings, the first few instances when Ishita & Raman had hit-&-miss situations was acceptable. Yes they weren't able to take their relationship further because an ex dropped, their family just wouldn't leave them alone, coz the cook was on leave for a week, etc, etc. But later it just becomes ridiculous. The couple has side hugs & night time coffee rituals going but the bedroom f'course is not the right place to do it (they probably need a hut or a jungle abode). The whole thing is just ...strange.

😆 cant add a word to that

But what just upped this unbelievable situation was Raman & Ishita's baby talk, their visits to the hospital (I mean, come on !!!). Somehow I could not accept the whole "lets do it for a baby" track.
I think CV's really lost the plot there. They could have saved this for the future but ...ah well.

I know that they actually had them visit a doc when they know they havent even done it yet is ridiculous but perhaps it is because they had last night planned in advance? cant say 😕

Coming to Shagun being the one to point out the light, well its funny & creepy in equal measures to see the ex-wife (who not so long ago was quite bitter & hated the new wife to hilt) taunts the current wife of her husband so that they finally consummate their marriage after 2 years. Errr. Umm.

While I agree that Shagun is the only one who knows the sexual side of and the lover within Raman, but my question to the CV's is completely different -- why does a third person have to convey this message to Ishita or Raman?

Being the mature adults that they are, why haven't they been able to talk about this aspect of their marriage. Given it the due attention it deserved and done something about finding the time for themselves ...as husband & wife, as lovers, as a hot blooded couple who is attracted to the person he/she loves.
I wished that is how the story of this unique couple was taken forward ... based on desire, love, attraction and a need for each other. Not because someone taunted someone, someone wants a baby, someone wants you to wear a sexy outfit.

Ah if only but then how could there be drama, weeping, more episodes and the TRPS 😉😆😆

However, as you said, I am equally glad that they did not get Ruhi to convey this message *phew*.

Thank heavens for small mercies right? 😆

On a lighter note, I know the leads of a desi soap supposedly lose steam if they have sex too early in the show. But YHM also taught us -- the leads' desire for sex (& the viewer's patience) loses steam too if they leave it for long 😛😆

@bold - 🤣🤣

PS -- Aani, as usual your post made me write more than I meant to. Some of the points might be a bit off the tangent but I haven't really ranted on this whole "we need to procreate asap" track till date. Hope you don't mind.

No not minding anything at all and thanks for the comment Paru 😊

Originally posted by: EkPaheli

I dont have to agree with a lot of people do I Vyas, they are free to have their opinions I have mine.

They see Raman making a move and Ishita running away in some parallel universe episodes I see that on Holi or when she had a fracture she didnt back away, she even happily said she is ready to take their relationship forward not once but twice - first time after the SMS Raman send to her to have a baby and then when he asked her is she ready because he has booked a suite for them; yeah Ishita there suddenly thought of Ruhi and her friend but she never told Raman to go home and get a gift for the girl just to make a call. Also recently too when she wore that nighty she threw herself practically at her husband but him backing away in his hypochondriac state that was making him lose his mind there...

perhaps if these veterans view the same episodes as I did on hotstar in their parallel universe and I could see the ones they did in theirs we could agree on things

Originally posted by: fugitives123

Lovely comments..enjoyed reading them all...my thoughts matched most with Hema's (OnePiece).

I haven't seen the episode and my comments are based on the wu and the comments here. Sorry if I am repeating some of points already discussed.

Aani, I agree that I was also somewhat glad that they actually showed Shagun hearing something as opposed to making her imagine and talk confidently about IshRa's lack of intimacy.

I know right, I was afraid they would have her do that based on a figment of her imagination or something 😆

However, I was disgusted that Shagun confronted Ishita about this and bragged about her own relationship with Raman. It is really difficult to digest that she was doing this to push Ishita to move her relationship with Raman forward. Why does Shagun care about this all of a sudden and how is she so sure that her taunt will result in something positive. She can't poke her nose into other people's bedroom affairs. No woman would like to hear stories about her husband's libido in the past and certainly not thrust upon her face by the Sautan. This might only make Ishita more sad and insecure. It saddens me that this is just the beginning of the glorification of St Shagun and there's more to come.😕

Make your peace with it is all I can say about this

I agree with people here that Raman deserves to swallow this bitter pill just as much as Ishita. I wouldn't blame Raman or Ishita individually for this delay in physical intimacy. Both of them have been very comfortable in the satvik zone. Both have expressed interest, but have faced multiple obstacles that have hampered their plans. What they lack is a strong desire for physical intimacy. Baby talk should be out of the window till then.

I concur

Baby talk is clearly not the way to go about this. Many feel that it is absurd that a couple go to a doctor without trying even once. I am able to ignore the tests and reports scenes as I feel that it is ok if sheneeds to make sure that she is physically ready for physical intimacy. (given that her fertility issue problem came to be known because of the sudden abdominal pain that she experienced).

Exactly had Ishita been ill and they needed to consult a doc before they had sex it would have been another thing this just was stupid but then what can we do about it and the baby talk has to stop at least between the couple

The 1.5 year wait should end with physical intimacy arising out of love and attraction and not because they desire a baby or because they are under pressure to give their daughter a sibling. And no Shagun, Simmi, Vandita, Mihika, Bala, Mihir can make them realize this. This has to be a self realization. I would be happy if they plan to show them fighting at the party where she blames him for not appreciating her efforts to look sexy for him and him telling her how attracted he is towards her and the whole conversation leading to the big c. Like Aru commented, they need to forget the family for sometime, give each other a piece of their mind and have an open heart to heart talk followed by the act.

I think they are gonna go with the fight for sure and hope that happens because once they can talk they can move on

I'm going to try and ignore many things like today's Shagun scene and patiently wait for something good to happen soon. I won't let the cvs ruin this for me.

Originally posted by: AroraTanya

Bang on. Despo Raman was soo desperate for physical intimacy and now khotte Raman doesn't want his wife. No wonder Raman is the favorite escape goat for ALL.

Had it been real life, the amount of effort Raman has put in last 8 months to make Ishita comfortable around him and shed her invisible inhibitions yet hardly his efforts have been reciprocated, the marriage would end in divorce by now. It's as simple as that.