Birds And The Bees With Ishita & Shagun - Page 17

Thanks Poornima 😊 and especially thanls for the last line 😆

Last I checked it wasnt against IF rules to say you dont find a conversation particulary engaging since it is becoming repetative and monotonous, also I have not used any tone here but if you feel so fine, I cant change that. I am just saying what I feel, which is that our particular interaction is being monotonous for me since there isnt anything new being said and that is the truth isnt it?

I have my own POVs and you have yours Vyas, I shared mine and you yours and if we dont have anything that makes this particular interaction interesting for me, there' nothing wrong if I say that since I am quiet honestly not finding anything that engages me here in the things that you have to say in defence of your POV or otherwise, I am set on my views as you are on yours, and there' nothing wrong with that.

Now if its not too much of an inconenience to you, could this end here because I have had a long day and clearly this futile debate is really not making the end of my day anymore exciting. I am not asking you to adhere accept my views here, but it seems to me you want to keep going in circles Vyas which I find pointless and a waste of time and energy.

I believe if we cease our interaction it would be a good thing for the both of us, since we clearly come from different school of thoughts, had they met somewhere we would be engaging in regular conversations I believe but that has never been the case, else I would have made it a point to keep the interaction on but I dont find anything worthwhile to expend my time and energy over and so I chose to just skip things over, thats my personal choice as this post of mine is my personal opinion which I shared here, there have been few who agreed and even those who disagreed but there has to be an end to both the types of exhanges I believe and for me this is the end of ours.

Adios

Totally agree with your perspective! Did not have time to read the other posts.. will do so if possible.. but nice discussion going on.. wish I could participate too😔

So now we need a post explaining Raman's viewpoint too, so that we can say he's not a jerk, and we get where he's coming from too 😃 😆 Pretty please 😳

(like they all address you here.. I would be glad to know your name too)

Yes, you call me Tiana.. 😊

I came back on this thread for two reasons..

One.. i had come back to read the thoughts other people have put up here.. This is a wonderful place actually.. So much of positivity.

And, TWO In my last two posts.. I had placed Ishita's insecurities.. and the similar ones that live with Indian woman.. But after yesterday's episode.. I would like to correct myself.. Raman had his insecurities too deep rooted.. I almost forgot that. In the starting of the story.. Raman was a nerdy geek who loved his wife(I mean Shagun here) with all his heart.. She rejected him for his Love.. calling it shallow.. "Pyaar se bada paisa hota hai" lines and left him behind. She didn't even want him around her always.. He was hurt. That is what he started believing that Money is about it all.. Post that he got himself a makeover.. from a nerd to a stud.. from a ugly man to Mr. Hot property for the whole world.. He lived in that illusion for years now.. But Alas! We humans can get a makeover of the outer things not the inner ones.. Inside him still lives that nerd. The one-woman Man. His inner demons still tell him that a woman could leave him anyday as he is not as good and charming.. (This was what the Mani track stated too). Most women who came close to him.. he believed was for his money and power. He might have changed outwardly but his inner self.. that he had caged inside him still have the same fears of losing out on his love. He in a way fell in love with Ishita because He knew she was the one woman who could never leave them(him and ruhi) behind. I remember him saying that to Ruhi too often, "tumhari Ishima tumse itna pyaar karti hai.. ki woh kabhie hume chor k nahi jayegi" But then thats about it too. He is scared.. is it possible for him to stop Ishita just for Ruhi if she starts liking another man? He is scared.. that she might find someone better like shagun did, and give up on him. And, as a result he did what any typical man would. They would prefer the woman being dull than sexy so that other people doesnt ogle at their woman.

If I felt bad when Shagun mouthed those words to Ishita.. But my heart ached when Ashok did that to Raman..! Who says.. Raman doesnt belive Ishita.. he does.. thats why he said.. "agar meri biwi chalegayi toh main zindagi bhar tera gulam"... What he doesnt trust.. is his fate.. What he is scared of.. is his inner nerd that doesnt want to lose out on the woman he loves.. and more than love trusts.. he doesnt want his trust broken the next time..! So like they say precaution is better than cure.. So, thats what he does.. asks her not to change.. but the consequences made him rude.. and Ishita's conversation with Shagun earlier made this situation even worse for Ishita to handle.. the fear of rejection and the needle pricking in her heart that she was just His wife, not his object of desire like his ex-wife was.. and as for Raman.. Mrs. Tandon so close to Ashok was the trigger and Ashok voicing those words to Raman was the bullet .. and that fired Raman totally.. pushing his encaged nerd out of his inside on his present brain and blood.

My heart goes out to them.. A man who wants to keep his wife to himself for himself so that nothing evil touches her that she can ever leave him behind.. he doesnt mind her not-being-sexy at all. He just wants her to himself like his own.. his own possession. And, a woman who has it all.. her husband's respect, his love, his money, his family, his kids, his company too.. but wants him now.. wants to be his object of desire! Because more than all of those.. a woman wants a man who desires her. She knows he loves her.. She isnt sure if he desires her enough and thats her insecure zone.. She is scared she might just remain his wife and a mother to ruhi and adi.. and nothing else she might become.

Beautifully painted these characters are.

When YHM goes thru all its silly tracks.. i wonder why I watch these series.. My answer is here too,, because of these beautifully painted characters.

P.S- i didn quote your last replied post.. bcoz that would have made this look lengthy! Actually I just got out from work. Of a patient's story.. she had the similiar kind of issue.. the ways of a possessive man not wanting her to look sexy. And typing in my thought processes, it got very lengthy.. please bear with me.

P.S.S- a while ago a read Gan.. and she rightly stated.. Its all about insecurities.. his and hers!