Originally posted by: shalz_123
Damn we tried...alas no one wants to fight here...
But I can see chances of puttar fight thou here...
Saw new claims ( u wish maya 😆 )
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Originally posted by: shalz_123
Damn we tried...alas no one wants to fight here...
But I can see chances of puttar fight thou here...
Saw new claims ( u wish maya 😆 )
Originally posted by: beckysharp
I am heartbroken Gan and Shalz ! I so wanted to enhance my shoe collection ! Was waiting for some louboutins and choos ! Why are people so civilized on this thread ?😭And as for new claims on puttar ! In your dreams gals ! Wait for doc to join the fray and all are goners !
Originally posted by: beckysharp
See Shalz, I don't know whether she put the nanny cam on her own or at the behest of Vandu... But she did put it and it is wrong ! It is an absolute invasion of privacy...Being guilty or not is also not the point... My point is how much does she hv to prove herself !She is reacting in this way because she was lied to, plus she knows adi is an easily influenced child .. it is stupid of her yes, but it was not meant to have a malicious intent !
Originally posted by: shalz_123
Prabh, if I remember correctly u r15 yr old. I m amazed st the levelof your mature thinking.
I logged in from my phone just to applaud. That u explained do bbeautifully. I hve no words. Specially when I see msnu grown ups at times showing nt a bit maturity n rationality.
Its true that anyone at any age csn teach u. I truly m at a loss of words. Will get back later.
Seriously - I'm going to jump on what Shalz said...Prabh, you should join in discussions more bc you bring such a good angle to this. Indu touched on how Raman's words stem from his insecurities of being left by his loved ones - so he goes on the offensive.
Just because we try to understand his words doesn't make them right, but it is only fair to give both leads delicacy in analysis. After reading this, you have added another layer of depth to my understanding.
If people have noticed - Raman lashes out like this only when it comes to Adi. It is no longer because he's blind in Adi's love, but I think we never saw such an exchange for Ruhi bc in his mind Ruhi has no mother but Ishita. Ruhi & Ishita share a bond that transcends labels, but the bond between Adi & Ishita will always be different. I think Ishita realizes that too, which is why in her insecurity she has gone into over-protective parent mode. I want Raman to slowly become the bridge between Adi & Ishita like Ishita was for Raman & Ruhi.
But I digress...I just wanted to say, beautiful write up, Prabh! 👏
Originally posted by: smilesforever98
i sometimes drop by this thread because it really is an unbiased thread that looks at almost all angles of the characters and their POV. And I have often wanted to comment here, but back off in nervousness. But I will for sure try and often add my little opinion sometimes.For sure I agree Raman's words aren't justified, but I was trying to see what could possible push the man who called Ishita the best mother for his children to saying she isn't a mother at all. And I didn't know someone has already mentioned this before.And about your point about Raman only acting like this with Adi. I feel this also adds to Ishita's over protectiveness because to her, it goes from only raising her son properly to not failing in the eyes of her husband whose son is so important to him and whose parenting he doesn't want to compromise in or lose the connection they are trying to find after so long.And I agree with what your saying and it would be wonderful to see Raman bridging this gap between Ishita and Adi. But with what I've seen so far, it seems like Raman's behaviour is only going to push them apart. Their bonding has hardly started and with Raman acting as the "good/cool" parent who keeps secrets from Ishita who is playing bad cop is only going to make Adi run away from Ishita to Raman.And thank you for liking what I wrote!
Originally posted by: smilesforever98
For sure I agree Raman's words aren't justified, but I was trying to see what could possible push the man who called Ishita the best mother for his children to saying she isn't a mother at all. And I didn't know someone has already mentioned this before.And about your point about Raman only acting like this with Adi. I feel this also adds to Ishita's over protectiveness because to her, it goes from only raising her son properly to not failing in the eyes of her husband whose son is so important to him and whose parenting he doesn't want to compromise in or lose the connection they are trying to find after so long.And I agree with what your saying and it would be wonderful to see Raman bridging this gap between Ishita and Adi. But with what I've seen so far, it seems like Raman's behaviour is only going to push them apart. Their bonding has hardly started and with Raman acting as the "good/cool" parent who keeps secrets from Ishita who is playing bad cop is only going to make Adi run away from Ishita to Raman.And thank you for liking what I wrote!
Just to butt in here - I don't think anyone here feels Ishita had any malicious intent. Most people have said they understand her need to protect Adi, but we are disagreeing with the approach. To me (prior to reading the other comments on this thread) it wasn't about proving herself, it was just a mistake she made & should live up to.
In the end Ishita's actions are still justified her, but the fact is the CCTV was a bit much. If you look at it Raman was trying to protect his son during the child swap, but his actions of hiding the paper weren't as justified. He came off as cruel & heartless, but here that is not the case. Ishita is acting out of her need to protect & she went with a knee jerk reaction of using the CCTV.
For both of them, it's a case of good intentions gone wrong.
I am holding off on commenting fully on Raman's words bc if it wasn't for the OLV & Precap...it wouldn't be a part of the convo yet. Right now the main issue for me is the parenting approach. On Monday it will be what it means to be a mother/step-mother, and the potentially icky message that is being conveyed.
It's so unfortunate that bc they can't show a proper conversation or conclusion to things like this...it always shows that the Bhallas, especially Raman, don't deserve Ishita & take advantage of her. I am not talking about this track bc it's not over yet, but I'm talking about what we have seen since 2015 started. Never would I have imagined this would be the case, but we are constantly brought to the reality that in anger Raman hurts Ishita like Subbu, Shagun, & Subbu's mom did & the Bhallas turn her into a stranger so quickly even after a year with her. I don't get why this has to be shown all the time bc the Bhallas aren't bad people but these flaws appear to overshadow the goodness for many viewers.
Originally posted by: beckysharp
Hi Krishy,Once again, I want to get it out of the way that I am not defending Ishita's actions at all... Ishita is very very wrong to spy on Adi through the nanny cam...My only issue has always been the raucous baying for Ishita's blood after every episode ... If we give the benefit of doubt to Raman why is it so difficult for us to extend the same to Ishita ?What is getting my goat in the recent episodes, is the fact that Raman chose to lie to his wife, to send her out of the house... so that Adi and Vinnie could work on their project ...Can you imagine the message going out to a 12 year old ? That Ishita is inconsequential. So what if your step mother objects to her presence and your friendship ... I will be by your side ... you want to bring this girl to our house ? absolutely fine, go ahead ... I will handle the matter ...Adi, being the normal teenager, this would be like manna from heaven right ? He has a father willing to lie to the woman, who is his step mother and who is being discounted/ whose authority is being undermined, by him, the biological parent. So next time, ishita wants to discipline him, what is the end result ? Is Aditya going to respect / listen to Ishita ?If I were in Aditya's place, I would have manipulated the situation to my best advantage, and I have believe you me. If you know your parent's weak point, rest assured, you will know how to get your own way. Especially when you realize that you are their weakness and they will do anything to make you happy.I am happy that Raman wants to keep the line of communication open with Adi. And I dislike the fact that Ishita is spying on him. But does it absolve Raman from his shenanigans ?Everyone is agreeing that both the parents are wrong ... but has anyone thought about the consequences of Raman's actions ? Why isn't anyone baying for Raman's blood may I ask ? Because everyone is busy baying for Ishita's 😛