What was Ishita expecting in the CCTV footage ? - Page 7

Shalz.. Becks.. My reaction was totally based on my own life principles.. I feel in parent-child relationship it's us parents who have to be the one driving it.. Conversation, setting expectation and pointing out errors as also supporting them when needed; those are our roles... And yesterday Ishita was wrong in my eyes with the nanny cam .. But I never thought she was a bad parent .. I think it's good that they are showing that parenthood comes with its challenges and we learn to adapt from the mistakes ... It's not about ishita has to prove she's a better mother..but more about that the CVs need to follow up and make sure Ishita acknowledges this and fixes it accordingly rather than it becoming just the one about Raman's 'you're not a mother' comment. Like someone pointed out.. There are two issues here.. One dealing with Ishita's snooping and the other with Raman's words.. ( that's the Precap though) .. BOTH need equal attention from the CVs. While Raman is going to wrong Ishita and needs to grovel for hurting her again..Ishita needs to sit down with Adi and clearly set the expectations and explain her POV to make him understand her.. as also with Raman and have a convo to discuss where they both went wrong in this: trying to parent individually rather than as a team.

Vandu gave her advice based on her life experiences .. But that doesn't make her one who never makes mistakes.. We all do. That's what makes us all human .


Another part about mistakes is that we learn from them.. I hope they show that In this track. Especially with Raman, because in the long run no self-respecting woman will put up with such nonsense even during heated arguments.


Sorry I responded to random posts.. I'm between errands.. Haven't read all the updates yet

By god's grace I was not able to watch the episode.. Thank god 😆

And I guess the CVS have messed up the track that we expected.. Whatever.. The scheme of putting CCTV camera is unjustifiable even if it is from vandu's advice or insistence.. And also throwing out the wife at every fight is not a commendable act..
As usual( bcoz I luv to read most of ur threads ) nice post gan.. 😊

Hi Vee,Becky,Hema,Ann,Aru,fugitive,Tia,Shalz

This is simply character assassination for sake of drama. Ishita, who has always tried to understand kids, who tried to get at Adi's psychology even when he was doing actual criminal things not understanding Adi's need for privacy now makes NO sense. And Vandu encouraging her was even more stupid and against character.

The bit about Ishita not talking to Raman about the camera, even though wrong made sense because it followed from him setting up the science project date behind her back. He tried to put her outside the parenting circle and she did the same as a result because she couldn't rely on him. One led to the other and so logic was at least visible.

Finally regarding his anger, Raman is justified in this case. But like most here I agree that there was no need for the writers to keep making him hit her below the belt like this. When Ishita does something for kids he likes, she is their true mother, but when he doesn't like it, she isn't their mother at all? The sign of his true acceptance of Ishita as the mother of his kids is that she also gets to make mistakes like a real mother, without getting accused of being an outsider. I hope their make up conversation (I'm dreaming I know) includes this.

Edit: to clarify, I do think Ishita's CCTV business is whack and wrong. But it's a mistake that many well intentioned parents make. So I'm glad they are covering this in the show regardless of how out of character it is. I just hope it gets the right conclusion: an ishra convo on parenting as a team and IshAdi convo about trust.

Originally posted by: DipaRB6

This is simply character assassination for sake of drama. Ishita, who has always tried to understand kids, who tried to get at Adi's psychology even when he was doing actual criminal things not understanding Adi's need for privacy now makes NO sense. And Vandu encouraging her was even more stupid and against character.

The bit about Ishita not talking to Raman about the camera, even though wrong made sense because it followed from him setting up the science project date behind her back. He tried to put her outside the parenting circle and she did the same as a result because she couldn't rely on him. One led to the other and so logic was at least visible.

Finally regarding his anger, Raman is justified in this case. But like most here I agree that there was no need for the writers to keep making him hit her below the belt like this. When Ishita does something for kids he likes, she is their true mother, but when he doesn't like it, she isn't their mother at all? The sign of his true acceptance of Ishita as the mother of his kids is that she also gets to make mistakes like a real mother, without getting accused of being an outsider. I hope their make up conversation (I'm dreaming I know) includes this.

Hi! I don't discuss the show very often in depth, but I just wanted to say something about this fight/footage issue before the episode airs and this seemed to be the right thread to do it. Everyone here seems to be unbiased and so I just wanted to put my opinion forth here...

Originally posted by: smilesforever98

Hi! I don't discuss the show very often in depth, but I just wanted to say something about this fight/footage issue before the episode airs and this seemed to be the right thread to do it. Everyone here seems to be unbiased and so I just wanted to put my opinion forth here...

With this fight, I think IshRa are both wrong in this situation, Ishita with her CCTV idea and Raman with his words and I'm not trying to justify them in anyway...but I feel their actions though wrong are a result of their insecurities.

If we look at Ishita and think about the way she parents both the children, I think it's kind of shown that she is still not confident about parenting Adi. She has never been so worried about raising Ruhi and Ruhi's actions because she is confident about her love and parenting when it comes to Ruhi. I think she feels like no one will judge how she deals with Ruhi and no one ever has including Raman (he did say you are not a mother, but when it came down to Adi, not Ruhi). With Adi it seems to be more complicated with Shagun's angle and simply because he is older and they don't share the same relationship that she and Ruhi share.

I think having to raise Adi who has now given her the title of Ishima from Ishita aunty has instilled a fear of not being able to raise him like a real mother would do. She feels the need to make sure nothing is wrong with Adi's parenting hence her over protectiveness because she doesn't want her being Ishima questioned again which happened last time something went wrong with Adi. This made her ask for advice from Vandita who gave her the wrong advice because she was the wrong person. She may look like the righteous mother, but it is a fact Vandita hasn't raised a teen and you may say she is a principal, but a principal isn't a mother. They don't raise those older students and are often strict with them and hence she gave the CCTV advice which again Ishita followed because she wants to prove she is a good mother to Adi like she is with Ruhi.

And then Raman. He has the right to be angry at Ishita for sure, but has no right to question Ishita's motherhood. However more than impulsiveness I think his words are a result of his own insecurities about his parenting. If we go to the beginning of the show where the way Ruhi was being raised put a question on his parenting and that has only built up. Then during the DNA track, his behaviour raised a questioned on the type of parent he was. Adi's accident track added to that when he was guilty for showing his son the wrong path and just recently Sujata and Ishita questions his parenting during Ruhi's custody this year. Now I think he feels he needs to show he can parent properly and hence tries to raise Adi his way. The way he brushes off what Ishita says when quite often we have seen him listen to what she has to say, I think shows that he feels Ishita raising Adi her way and having to led him will again have people questioning him.

And in that precap, the way he says you're not a mom is wrong. However I feel as if it is his defense mechanism where he puts the blame on Ishita so no one question him. He hit her in her weak point in the process of avoiding her questions on the way he wants to raise Adi. He might think this argument will again lead to their debate on their ways of parenting and to avoid it, he used those harsh words.

In the end, both were wrong, but I think it's due to their insecurities. I don't know if I got my point across clearly, but I tried to explain what I thought. I hope I didn't offend anyone and feel free to disagree with me.

Prabh, if I remember correctly u r15 yr old. I m amazed st the levelof your mature thinking.

I logged in from my phone just to applaud. That u explained do bbeautifully. I hve no words. Specially when I see msnu grown ups at times showing nt a bit maturity n rationality.

Its true that anyone at any age csn teach u. I truly m at a loss of words. Will get back later.

had a super busy day... Just peeked in to read the rest of the responses.. Great going guys... It was a controversial episode .. With each of us reacting to it in our own way.. And I got to read some amazing arguments for and against Raman's and Ishita 's actions ... I don't believe any one is wrong .. Everyone is coming from their own life experiences.. And their understanding of Ishita and Raman . I hope the Cvs thought as deeply as most of you did in analyzing the behavior..Now hope they don't botch it up.. This track has a lot of potential.. And if given the TLC it deserves can turn into an overall awesome track...my biggest expectation out of this track is an honest mature heart to heart talk between the leads.. It's about time .. Love is a lot more than just romancing... It needs a bit of patience, understanding. Support .. some adjustment and a whole lot of respect for your partner...

Originally posted by: smilesforever98

Hi! I don't discuss the show very often in depth, but I just wanted to say something about this fight/footage issue before the episode airs and this seemed to be the right thread to do it. Everyone here seems to be unbiased and so I just wanted to put my opinion forth here...

With this fight, I think IshRa are both wrong in this situation, Ishita with her CCTV idea and Raman with his words and I'm not trying to justify them in anyway...but I feel their actions though wrong are a result of their insecurities.

If we look at Ishita and think about the way she parents both the children, I think it's kind of shown that she is still not confident about parenting Adi. She has never been so worried about raising Ruhi and Ruhi's actions because she is confident about her love and parenting when it comes to Ruhi. I think she feels like no one will judge how she deals with Ruhi and no one ever has including Raman (he did say you are not a mother, but when it came down to Adi, not Ruhi). With Adi it seems to be more complicated with Shagun's angle and simply because he is older and they don't share the same relationship that she and Ruhi share.

I think having to raise Adi who has now given her the title of Ishima from Ishita aunty has instilled a fear of not being able to raise him like a real mother would do. She feels the need to make sure nothing is wrong with Adi's parenting hence her over protectiveness because she doesn't want her being Ishima questioned again which happened last time something went wrong with Adi. This made her ask for advice from Vandita who gave her the wrong advice because she was the wrong person. She may look like the righteous mother, but it is a fact Vandita hasn't raised a teen and you may say she is a principal, but a principal isn't a mother. They don't raise those older students and are often strict with them and hence she gave the CCTV advice which again Ishita followed because she wants to prove she is a good mother to Adi like she is with Ruhi.

And then Raman. He has the right to be angry at Ishita for sure, but has no right to question Ishita's motherhood. However more than impulsiveness I think his words are a result of his own insecurities about his parenting. If we go to the beginning of the show where the way Ruhi was being raised put a question on his parenting and that has only built up. Then during the DNA track, his behaviour raised a questioned on the type of parent he was. Adi's accident track added to that when he was guilty for showing his son the wrong path and just recently Sujata and Ishita questions his parenting during Ruhi's custody this year. Now I think he feels he needs to show he can parent properly and hence tries to raise Adi his way. The way he brushes off what Ishita says when quite often we have seen him listen to what she has to say, I think shows that he feels Ishita raising Adi her way and having to led him will again have people questioning him.

And in that precap, the way he says you're not a mom is wrong. However I feel as if it is his defense mechanism where he puts the blame on Ishita so no one question him. He hit her in her weak point in the process of avoiding her questions on the way he wants to raise Adi. He might think this argument will again lead to their debate on their ways of parenting and to avoid it, he used those harsh words.

In the end, both were wrong, but I think it's due to their insecurities. I don't know if I got my point across clearly, but I tried to explain what I thought. I hope I didn't offend anyone and feel free to disagree with me.

Seriously - I'm going to jump on what Shalz said...Prabh, you should join in discussions more bc you bring such a good angle to this.

Originally posted by: -Gan-

And no chappal exchanged😉[/DIV]

Damn we tried...alas no one wants to fight here...

But I can see chances of puttar fight thou here...

Saw new claims ( u wish maya 😆 )