What was Ishita expecting in the CCTV footage ?

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Come on I can understand over protective mom ... Different upbringing I get ... But still anytime you do something saying 'maaf kar dena Murugan', it has to be indicative of the fact her conscience was not supporting her in this. What could Vinny' and Adi do in their room that needed to be monitored and if she was not comfortable as a mother she would have been within boundaries to ask them to work in the family area.. And not in bedroom...why did she act she was cool with Vinny and tell Neelu to give them snacks..et al.?
. Ishita's feeling of over protectiveness I get.. What I absolutely failed to relate to was her snooping on her 12 year old son with a nanny cam. he lied but lying is not that big a crime that needs constant monitoring.. ... Vandu was wrong to support her here.. Especially when she's a principal of a college.. Expected a bit more maturity from her.


Precap ... I hope the Cvs don't turn this into another Raman is the one at fault here... Raman's words are harsh no doubt about it... He needs to apologize for them ... But Ishita is not in the white zone here.. She needed to get her hubby into confidence about the spy cam ( esp when he had called or when she nagging doubts and called Vandu.. That call needed to be to Raman.) as he's the other parent and not her adversary .. They are in this together.

I could relate to Ishita till yesterday.. I didn't jump the gun as I truly felt she must have had some solid reason to use a nanny cam... But nothing today gave a solid reason. Why do I feel the CVs messing up another meaningful track?

Romi is digging his own grave with the ACP 😆
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Posting an edited version from what I left in the LU...bc I'm lazy... 😳

Just bc someone does something stupider than you never absolves your mistakes.

Raman's callous words are one thing, but these parenting missteps NEED to be dealt with separately. It's not right for Ishita to always be hit with the step-mother thing, but when she felt guilty about spying...something was definitely wrong. These are 2 SEPARATE issues to be dealt with.

I really really get Ishita's POV bc my natural instinct for my siblings is helicopter Didi. I, too, had trouble finding boundaries with my siblings bc I thought I was helping them in the long run, but my mom had to constantly explain to me that you can't unfortunately protect them from everything.

The CCTV was for added the added umph in drama, but I hope for once they allow Ishita to be human & error-prone (and to live up to this). This action to me isn't totally out of character or anything especially because we have seen Mrs. Iyer do some OTT things out of motherly concern. Yes, she should've talked to Raman or Adi or encouraged the kids to study in the living room, but then drama wouldn't happen...so it's not worth saying what options would have been smarter decisions. Especially because this far Raman made some boo boos too, so she may feel he wouldn't be open to hearing her out. I wonder what Toshiji's POV will be on this.

I still personally prefer this mistake making Ishita to the one who can solve all problems without really anyone's help. But having said that, if they are willing to show the FL as one who can actually falter, I firmly believe she needs to live up to her mistake. Unfortunately if the CVs show her putting the CCTV camera as the best decision & her hunch as right & Raman as wrong like you alluded to...they will just be inviting a lot of hate towards Ishita because a CCTV is excessive.

Shoot if my parents or I even put a microphone upstairs in the game room...my brother would've lost it both when he was younger or now

Oh also given this was Vandu's idea - good bless Shravan as he grows up. She clearly runs the show in that house...but I wonder how Bala would react if she did this to Shravan.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Gan,
Thanks for the post. I am in sync with your line of thought.

This is what I wrote in the LU about the situation and Ishita's action -

I can completely understand Ishita's worries for Adi, and she is right in her concern and annoyance about Raman being too lenient with the boy. I have heard myself accuse my husband for the same many many times, so I totally get it.😆

Its okay to discuss these things with siblings, its very natural. I would have still somewhat accepted the CCTV idea of hers, had she tried to consult with Raman, and put forth her thought to him, being the father of Adi, and not just decided and taken it upon herself to keep a check on Adi, after a nod of approval from Vandu.

She being hasty & judgemental and jumping to the conclusion that Adi is getting in the wrong groove, somehow did not gel with me. Just because the boy has had a questionable past and has been in the center of a lot of issues does not justify her distrust in the situation at hand. Its such a big decision to take, spying on your son through a camera because you don't trust him. You atleast have to consider involving your husband, the son's father, in the plan, discuss with him and see what he thinks. How can one take such big decisions about their child all alone? Somehow it comes across as her distrust here not being just with Adi but also with Raman.

Saying this about Ishita does not mean I absolve Raman of hiding things from Ishita regarding Adi & Vinni meeting. Its absolutely wrong on either of their part to do so.

I wonder if she thought through the whole matter, the consequences of being exposed for doing this, by Raman or Adi. Did she consider what would Adi think if he found out that the person whom he has just recently accepted as his IshiMa is spying on him, won't it hurt him to realize that she does not trust him, his friend or his actions? Isn't she familiar with Raman's anger by now? What was she thinking?

The kids had just met up to do some work together. If she had done this after they were caught red-handed doing some forbidden stuff, then I could still see where she was coming from.

I haven't seen the episode, so my above comments are just going by the WU. I will wait for the precap scene to play in its entirety before commenting on it. But there is no doubt that Raman's words are very harsh and there are some things that you just cannot say. I really really hope that we get to see a mature conversation about this whole matter and argument.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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absolutely agree with you Gan
This is why i fail to relate to Ishita most of the times. WHAT kind of overprotectiveness is this!? :/ this was disgusting, and though, at any other occasion, i would have blamed raman for the words... in this particular situation, ishita is SO wrong and SO MUCH at fault for me, that Ramans words dont even seem anything.
Ramans character hasnt changed. he has ALWAYS been this way, and this isnt the first time.. we all know what words he means and what words he doesnt and so does ishita, so raman hasnt changed, right or wrong, good or bad, hes always been this way, but WTH is wrong with ishita? :/ 🤔
Does she think Adi will ever open up to her and get close to her this way? shes acting worse than a strict principal ... something i absolutely cant relate to... im not saying ishita should only keep buttering adi, and being the "aunty" that she was, now that shes mum... i absolutely understand her concerns... theyre not exactly wrong... but even with the kaands adi has done, SUDDENLY ishitas overprotective-pana... for nothing is so unreal and SO annoying... her way to DEAL with and go about this stuff is ABSOLUTELY wrong.. and this is when im YET to watch the episode 🤔
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: -K.13-

Posting an edited version from what I left in the LU...bc I'm lazy... 😳


Hey Ditto, Krishy!😆
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: -K.13-

Posting an edited version from what I left in the LU...bc I'm lazy... 😳

Just bc someone does something stupider than you never absolves your mistakes.

Raman's callous words are one thing, but these parenting missteps NEED to be dealt with separately. It's not right for Ishita to always be hit with the step-mother thing, but when she felt guilty about spying...something was definitely wrong. But these are 2 SEPARATE issues to be dealt with.

I really really get Ishita's POV bc my natural instinct for my siblings is helicopter Didi. I, too, had trouble finding boundaries with my siblings bc I thought I was helping them in the long run, but my mom had to constantly explain to me that you can't unfortunately protect them from everything.

The CCTV was for added the added umph in drama, but I hope for once they allow Ishita to be human & error-prone (and to live up to this). This action to me isn't totally out of character or anything especially because we have seen Mrs. Iyer do some OTT things out of motherly concern. Yes, she should've talked to Raman or Adi or encouraged the kids to study in the living room, but then drama wouldn't happen...so it's not worth saying what options would have been smarter decisions.

I still personally prefer this mistake making Ishita to the one who can solve all problems without really anyone's help. But having said that, if they are willing to show the FL as one who can actually falter, I firmly believe she needs to live up to her mistake. Unfortunately if the CVs show her putting the CCTV camera as the best decision & her hunch as right & Raman as wrong...they will just be inviting a lot of hate towards Ishita because a CCTV is excessive.

Shoot if my parents or I even put a microphone upstairs in the game room...my brother would've lost it both when he was younger or now

Oh also given this was Vandu's idea - good bless Shravan as he grows up. She clearly runs the show in that house...but I wonder how Bala would react if she did this to Shravan.


Very well put Krishy ! I love the part in bold and I do hope the Cvs this time let the FL own up to her share in the mistake about CCTV... Rather than taking it the way where Adi is shown regressing to the older two faced Adi that they had turned him into during the sauten saga. Trust is an element in ALL relationships... And if we have doubts.. Sometimes taking the person into confidence and having a heart to heart is more fruitful than telling them in actions that they are not trust worthy. Adi Ishita has just embarked into a true mother son relationship...this might nip it in the bud as it's easy to break bonds than build them. I'm hoping CVs surprise us with realistic take this time.


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Posted: 10 years ago
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Gan,

Thanks for the post. I am in sync with your line of thought.

This is what I wrote in the LU about the situation and Ishita's action -

I can completely understand Ishita's worries for Adi, and she is right in her concern and annoyance about Raman being too lenient with the boy. I have heard myself accuse my husband for the same many many times, so I totally get it.😆

Its okay to discuss these things with siblings, its very natural. I would have still somewhat accepted the CCTV idea of hers, had she tried to consult with Raman, and put forth her thought to him, being the father of Adi, and not just decided and taken it upon herself to keep a check on Adi, after a nod of approval from Vandu.

She being hasty & judgemental and jumping to the conclusion that Adi is getting in the wrong groove, somehow did not gel with me. Just because the boy has had a questionable past and has been in the center of a lot of issues does not justify her distrust in the situation at hand. Its such a big decision to take, spying on your son through a camera because you don't trust him. You atleast have to consider involving your husband, the son's father, in the plan, discuss with him and see what he thinks. How can one take such big decisions about their child all alone? Somehow it comes across as her distrust here not being just with Adi but also with Raman.

Saying this about Ishita does not mean I absolve Raman of hiding things from Ishita regarding Adi & Vinni meeting. Its absolutely wrong on either of their part to do so.

I wonder if she thought through the whole matter, the consequences of being exposed for doing this, by Raman or Adi. Did she consider what would Adi think if he found out that the person whom he has just recently accepted as his IshiMa is spying on him, won't it hurt him to realize that she does not trust him, his friend or his actions? Isn't she familiar with Raman's anger by now? What was she thinking?

The kids had just met up to do some work together. If she had done this after they were caught red-handed doing some forbidden stuff, then I could still see where she was coming from.

I haven't seen the episode, so my above comments are just going by the WU. I will wait for the precap scene to play in its entirety before commenting on it. But there is no doubt that Raman's words are very harsh and there are some things that you just cannot say. I really really hope that we get to see a mature conversation about this whole matter and argument.


Indu my biggest issues with Ishita's actions are the parts you mentioned in bold ... That's where my disconnect started especially when her gut was telling her she was doing something not right. I wished t he Cvs don't mess this up further. Trust is important...and loved ones always get a benefit of doubt

And amen to your last sentence.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: serendipity.

absolutely agree with you Gan

This is why i fail to relate to Ishita most of the times. WHAT kind of overprotectiveness is this!? :/ this was disgusting, and though, at any other occasion, i would have blamed raman for the words... in this particular situation, ishita is SO wrong and SO MUCH at fault for me, that Ramans words dont even seem anything.
Ramans character hasnt changed. he has ALWAYS been this way, and this isnt the first time.. we all know what words he means and what words he doesnt and so does ishita, so raman hasnt changed, right or wrong, good or bad, hes always been this way, but WTH is wrong with ishita? :/ 🤔
Does she think Adi will ever open up to her and get close to her this way? shes acting worse than a strict principal ... something i absolutely cant relate to... im not saying ishita should only keep buttering adi, and being the "aunty" that she was, now that shes mum... i absolutely understand her concerns... theyre not exactly wrong... but even with the kaands adi has done, SUDDENLY ishitas overprotective-pana... for nothing is so unreal and SO annoying... her way to DEAL with and go about this stuff is ABSOLUTELY wrong.. and this is when im YET to watch the episode 🤔


Reenz two wrongs don't make it right .. Yes snooping with nanny cam was wrong on Ishita's part given the circumstance that there was nothing serious on Adi's actions to justify it... But Rama also needs to watch his mouth.. It's impulsive the 1st time you say something stupid to your wife.. But if it gets repeated especially about the part where Ishita is most sensitive about...telling her that she's not Adi's mom or mocking her with Ishima' is a BIG insult .. Because that is lowest of the low blows.. He can't keep on doing that...that is an insult to his wife, and his children's mother.

Both were wrong and both need to apologize and frankly in relationship the balance is not shifted based on whose wrong was bigger... But just by the fact it was wrong... And both parties need own up to it and to fix it to maintain healthy relationship


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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Gan-



Very well put Krishy ! I love the part in bold and I do hope the Cvs this time let the FL own up to her share in the mistake about CCTV... Rather than taking it the way where Adi is shown regressing to the older two faced Adi that they had turned him into during the sauten saga. Trust is an element in ALL relationships... And if we have doubts.. Sometimes taking the person into confidence and having a heart to heart is more fruitful than telling them in actions that they are not trust worthy. Adi Ishita has just embarked into a true mother son relationship...this might nip it in the bud as it's easy to break bonds than build them. I'm hoping CVs surprise us with realistic take this time.




Truthfully if Adi does do some kind of kaand now - it won't surprise me, but it will be the result of this CCTV. Raman has been lenient & ignore the maternal angle to raising Adi, but if Adi started to make dumb decisions bc of just that - it would take a little longer to build up that "my dad is okay with it" mentality.

Adi has hands down made mistakes in the past, but by secretly putting up a nanny cam...Ishita pushed him away from her. He felt guilty about the fake phone call, which shows he does have some introspection. He is a 12-13 year old boy, and the fact of the matter is he will not understand Ishita's POV. Maybe later on he will realize why she did this, but if things go on like this...their already fragile relationship may be too far gone for repair.

Ishita needs only to apologize to Adi & talk to him. I understand what Indu was saying that by not involving Raman, she almost showed distrust to him too...but Raman has always been harder to work with so I can understand her not wanting to go to him. Unfortunately Ishita & Raman both need to learn that parenting isn't a one person show.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Ishita is trying to become the James Bond of YHM...Uncovering world threatening virus made during the science project...
gosh! The CVs should be ashamed for putting in the CCTV scene

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