What was Ishita expecting in the CCTV footage ?

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beckysharp

@beckysharp

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Posted: 10 years ago

#81

Originally posted by: -Gan-
I'm hearing the term 'baying for blood' if it is wrt this thread.. I have to say that's a very harsh tag on the people who are criticizing Ishita's actions.. I don't know about the forum but I read every single post in this thread and no one has been baying for Ishita's blood or Raman's blood .. What they have done is expressed their honest opinion about what they feel... And most have said that both are at fault.. One for snooping .. The other for yelling and both for not having a discussion and working as a team when it comes to parenting .
Let's keep the debate about what's it's about without labeling others responses.. As that leads to feelings getting hurt.

No offense meant.. Just trying to keep it about the debate. 😃

My apologies Gan, if my terminology is offensive.. the reason I said that was, why hasn't anyone looked at it from another point of view too... Ishita is wrong 100% wrong. But why wasn't Raman's act also questioned.

And that's just my Shakespearen influence that came to the fore.

My apologies once again.

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DipaRB6

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Posted: 10 years ago

#82

This is such a great discussion! I always appreciate your thread Gan, and everyone who posts here. Even if a track like this turns out to be flawed or isn't concluded properly, the realistic conversations that sprout from it are so mature and worthwhile.

I've randomly checked in on the forums for other very popular shows and their fans don't even have a scope of analysis like these, sadly. We are very lucky that YHM gives us opportunities to talk about relevant and real dilemmas.

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-Gan-

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Posted: 10 years ago

#83

Originally posted by: beckysharp

My apologies Gan, if my terminology is offensive.. the reason I said that was, why hasn't anyone looked at it from another point of view too... Ishita is wrong 100% wrong. But why wasn't Raman's act also questioned.

And that's just my Shakespearen influence that came to the fore.

My apologies once again.

Hey no need to apologize... I understand what you meant.. I can't speak for others.. But from my vantage point ..TILL NOW.. In this track Ishita's overprotective ness and Raman's over leniency towards Adi to me appeared to be as different parenting styles.. Like I emphasized in my main post.. I related to both their mistakes ( till Friday's episode) as they are new to parenting a teenager and are going with what their gut feelings are .. It is not ideal but that's how we learn.. Through our Booboos... And they would turn this around too if they sit and face it together.

But Sat's episode .. I failed to connect to Ishita's actions...

Snooping on a teenager.with a nanny cam..For me was going OTT .. It was wrong and especially when Ishita herself was getting second thoughts.. She should have listened to her instinct .. But does that make her a bad parent.. NO .. It just makes her a human being.. And my hope is that the Cvs give the character the chance to realize and own up to her mistake and fix it with Adi. Yes Adi has done mistakes in the past.. But he's still a child who needs honest guidance .. Not snooping which would make him feel that he's not trusted... And as Ishita is the parent and the mature one in this relationship.. She should take the initiative and fix it. That's all I feel.

Hope atleast I made my stance about raman and Ishita in this case, clear.

And again apologies were not at all needed 😃

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-Gan-

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Posted: 10 years ago

#84

Prabh omg I can't believe a 15 yr old has such depth in thinking and words to express them so lucidly... I love your main post and the subsequent responses.. I'm truly amazed.

Take a bow sweety! 👏

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beckysharp

@beckysharp

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Posted: 10 years ago

#85

Originally posted by: -Gan-

Hey no need to apologize... I understand what you meant.. I can't speak for others.. But from my vantage point ..TILL NOW.. In this track Ishita's overprotective ness and Raman's over leniency towards Adi to me appeared to be as different parenting styles.. Like I emphasized in my main post.. I related to both their mistakes ( till Friday's episode) as they are new to parenting a teenager and are going with what their gut feelings are .. It is not ideal but that's how we learn.. Through our Booboos... And they would turn this around too if they sit and face it together.

But Sat's episode .. I failed to connect to Ishita's actions...

Snooping on a teenager.with a nanny cam..For me was going OTT .. It was wrong and especially when Ishita herself was getting second thoughts.. She should have listened to her instinct .. But does that make her a bad parent.. NO .. It just makes her a human being.. And my hope is that the Cvs give the character the chance to realize and own up to her mistake and fix it with Adi. Yes Adi has done mistakes in the past.. But he's still a child who needs honest guidance .. Not snooping which would make him feel that he's not trusted... And as Ishita is the parent and the mature one in this relationship.. She should take the initiative and fix it. That's all I feel.

Hope atleast I made my stance about raman and Ishita in this case, clear.

And again apologies were not at all needed 😃

Hi Gan, I have stopped watching YHM a couple of weeks ago.. during subbu shenanigans.. so what I have written is from reading the updates.

The only reason I provided this view of Ishita was, because I wondered as a normal human being, how many of us would be able to forget what Adi did ? Ishita has forgiven, but is it plausible to forget ? Being thrown in jail ? Being molested by a bunch of guys ? Our mother being almost killed by a reckless and thoughtless action.

And then Raman goes ahead and lies to her and undermines her authority... Would Adi be able now to respect her ?

I always wanted and I still do, Adi to address Ishita as Ishita Aunty. For me, his mother was, is and will always be Shagun. I actually wanted Ishita to be his friend, some one he turns to when he is frustrated by his parents ! Not as Ishima. For me she is only Ru's Ishima.

And my apologies were because, your thread is a safe haven in the midst of madness and I did not want to besmirch it's sanctity... N I did not want to offend you are the various wonderful ladies who write here regularly. We have different views but I respect their view as much as hopefully they respect mine.

Hence

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WhyAmIHereAgain

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Posted: 10 years ago

#86

Originally posted by: -Gan-
Prabh omg I can't believe a 15 yr old has such depth in thinking and words to express them so lucidly... I love your main post and the subsequent responses.. I'm truly amazed.
Take a bow sweety! 👏

isnt it Gan!! I wud have thought a 15 yr old to support Adi blindly..but that Prabh tried to understand Parent's psychology and justify so amazingly...I m amazed...n i really congratulate Prabhs for her maturity and clarity in her thought process... I m sure ur parents r real proud of u girl... 👏

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Indu

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Posted: 10 years ago

#87

Originally posted by: beckysharp

My apologies Gan, if my terminology is offensive.. the reason I said that was, why hasn't anyone looked at it from another point of view too... Ishita is wrong 100% wrong. But why wasn't Raman's act also questioned.

And that's just my Shakespearen influence that came to the fore.

My apologies once again.

Hi Becky,

I am conflicted whether to respond to your post or let it be, because on one hand and most importantly, I really do not want to offend you or Gan or stretch this matter for more than its worth, but on the other hand I just wanted to clarify my stance too.

@bold - I completely understand where you are coming from in your post, about Raman not being questioned for his deed. I can't speak for others, but in all my posts, I have always emphasized on how pointing out Ishita's mistakes does not absolve Raman of his oversight and carelessness, and how parenting is a very crucial, difficult, and full time job and both parents need to be completely coordinated with each other all times.

I had mentioned that even though Raman did not talk against Ishita in front of Adi but in fact had explained to Adi why Ishita was angry at him, by hiding things from Ishita he not only is giving more reasons for Ishita to mistrust him and to panic and worry more about Adi, but he is also indirectly conveying to Adi that its okay to hide things from Ishita and encouraging him to follow the same, which would be completely wrong on Raman's part. Even if he feels that he wants to give more space to Adi and show him that he trusts him completely, why doesn't he discuss things with Ishita, and why don't the two communicate with each other, ever?

I am really sorry if I may have come off strongly or if I offended you in any way, that was definitely not my intention. I really love the balanced discussion here and would never intentionally do anything to spoil the atmosphere in this space.

Edited by -II- - 10 years ago

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beckysharp

@beckysharp

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Posted: 10 years ago

#88

Originally posted by: -II-

Hi Becky,

I am conflicted whether to respond to your post or let it be, because on one hand and most importantly, I really do not want to offend you or Gan or stretch this matter for more than its worth, but on the other hand I just wanted to clarify my stance too.

@bold - I completely understand where you are coming from in your post, about Raman not being questioned for his deed. I can't speak for others, but in all my posts, I have always emphasized on how pointing out Ishita's mistakes does not absolve Raman of his oversight and carelessness, and how parenting is a very crucial, difficult, and full time job and both parents need to be completely coordinated with each other all times.

I had mentioned that even though Raman did not talk against Ishita in front of Adi but in fact had explained to Adi why Ishita was angry at him, by hiding things from Ishita he not only is giving more reasons for Ishita to mistrust him and to panic and worry more about Adi, but he is also indirectly conveying to Adi that its okay to hide things from Ishita and encouraging him to follow the same, which would be completely wrong on Raman's part. Even if he feels that he wants to give more space to Adi and show him that he trusts him completely, why doesn't he discuss things with Ishita, and why don't the two communicate with each other, ever?

I am really sorry if I may have come off strongly or if I offended you in any way, that was definitely not my intention. I really love the balanced discussion here and would never intentionally do anything to spoil the atmosphere in this space.

Hi II, (I am sorry, I don't know your name)

Thank you for your comment. And yes, I am equally conflicted hence I am wondering whether I should respond to your comment or just let it be. Since I do not want to stretch this issue (unfortunately, I love to debate and this could go on and on ad infinitum. I shall just end it at this. This issue is a very contentious one for me. Yes, I did read your comment about Raman not being absolved of his carelessness and mistakes. But can what he has done be brushed off as carelessness and mistake i.e undermining ishita ?

Edited by beckysharp - 10 years ago

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Indu

@-II-

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Posted: 10 years ago

#89

Originally posted by: beckysharp

Hi II, (I am sorry, I don't know your name)

Thank you for your comment. And yes, I am equally conflicted hence I am wondering whether I should respond to your comment or just let it be. Since I do not want to stretch this issue (unfortunately, I love to debate and this could go on and on ad infinitum. I shall just end it at this. This issue is a very contentious one for me. Yes, I did read your comment about Raman not being absolved of his carelessness and mistakes. But can what he has done be brushed off as carelessness and mistake i.e undermining ishita ?

Hi, I'm Indu 😊

To answer your question, no, absolutely not. That's precisely why I think that both Ishita and Raman need to sit down and together chalk out a parenting technique for their kids, especially Adi,setting aside their disagreement in each other's methods and ways.

Ishita did not share or discuss with Raman about installing the nanny cam for the same reasons why Raman did not share with Ishita about Vinni's visit and their teaming up for the project..they both knew that the other person's reaction would be unfavorable to them and they chose to avoid a confrontion or rejection at that point. And both times it was wrong. Neither am I brushing aside Raman's acts, nor can I comprehend or ignore the fact that for someone so intelligent and sensible like Ishita who has always been shown to understand a child's psychology, she did not think through the consequences of her spying actions in the event of Adi finding out about it.

While it is wrong for Raman to imply to Adi that it is okay to lie to Ishita and do things which she does not agree with or allow, it is also delicate and more important for Ishita right now to try and bridge the gap between herself and Adi, being the older and more mature one among the two, and to gain his trust rather than indicating that she doesn't have any faith in him.

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