Today's scene : Raman's Attention to Ishita without Intention - Page 6

First of all you do not need to apologize for putting out your thoughts in this forum ... you just presented your POV and did not bash anyone or demean anyone.

Having said that, I do not support you one bit and I here by present my counter POV for that.

I am no feminist either but a very strong supporter of equal rights. Yet, I loved the beauty of this scene yesterday for one sole reason .. I could believe in what Raman did or what Ishtia yearned for.

Raman has of course been harsh towards her from the beginning of this relationship but have you noticed the subtle change ... they used to bicker and outdo each other in the beginning and now it has moved on to the cute vaali nok jhonk. There is a change in the way they speak to each other.. a simple instance like pagal madrasan was said with disgust or contempt by Raman and now he uses the same phrase while smiling also. There is a change.

Coming down to yesterday's scene. If you notice, what affected Raman was the fact that his wife thinks he is unromantic. The catalyst happened to be Shagun's scene.

Notice, that he was simply offended with Shagun's stance and left the room in disgust. He was angry from her disgusted from her. If he had to prove a point to Shagun, he could have done something in front of her and the family to prove a point and show it to her. That is when he would actually be demeaning his present marriage. Instead, he left that room, albeit disturbed.

He came back later once Shagun had left and insisted Ishita to accompany him. Notice his expressions, he wanted to spend some time with her. He was as affected as her. He gave a lame excuse to Mihir to stand by and instead went ahead with Ishita.

And then finally the dance. He did not want to prove a point. It was the man in him who was affected by the words that his wife thinks he is simply an arrogant man with no romantic soul in him. Therefore, he urges her to do something childish like dance in the rain and says ...
"Mai bhi to dekhu ki mai vakaye me khadoos aur insensitive hoon" .. he found something missing in his relationship and wanted to mend that. So it was a beautiful attempt from my end.

Coming down to Ishita ... a woman who has been constantly rejected on the day of her engagement ... rejected numerous times by so many men in her life, rejected by her husband many a times ... and now the ex wife of her husband mocks her in front of her relatives. When Shagun told Raman is romantic, she just demeaned Ishita that you can never have what I shared with Raman ... you will never be good enough for him. Another sort of rejection.

So, her self-confidence will be at its lowest given the situation. If you look, she did not react. She was just sad. Extremely sad. She was working through everything like a robot.
She did not even accompany Raman with all her heart.

So, when Raman asked her out ... and danced with her .. and treated her like a woman for the first time in her life ... she was absolutely overwhelmed ... look at her ... she was close to tears ...

She was earlier reluctant and stopped him but she eventually agreed after Raman's same dialogue of khadoos and insensitive .. that is when she understood Raman had heard and what he is going to do is for HER ... solely for her and not to prove anyone else any point.

something like doobte ko tinke ka sahara ... what Raman did brought back the woman in her ... it brought back her self confidence in her as a woman.

For me, this is what made this scene entirely beautiful.

BUT, what made is extremely beautiful was the talk on the next day when Raman says that some moments are to be cherished between the couple and not for for any one else.

He definitely repeated his stance about the earlier night that whatever happened was between them and a progress in their relation ... it was not to prove any point ...

Aiyooo ... just realized I ended up writing a Ramayan on your post .. sorry for hijacking it dear ...

Your thoughts, agreement or disagreement in welcome.

I don't think it was completely planned. I don't think he knew for certainty that rain would fall or that Ishita would make him stop the car or that they'd have privacy to dance. It just so happened.

I definitely don't think it was planned.when he came out if the room & said he would drop Bala & Vandu I didn't think he was planning to give her a KKHH moment .he probably asked her to join in may be to have a talk & make her feel better, b'coz he didn't see her upset , he knew she was upset.now while returning Raman still wanted to drive the car,it was Ishita who asked him to stop.Ecven after that there was silence he didn't know what do which is why he switched on the radio & that's probably when he was like May be let's try this ., he was testing waters by asking her if she had danced in rain before& when she sai no , he decided to do it.even when he asked her hand for dance he said 'I want to see if I'm really khadoos or insensitive ' it was not like you didn't have KKHH moment let me give u.Infact I think he probably didn't know it was tht moment for her until she said it.and the last but not the least ,the fact tht he told her tht these moments should b btw us is a proof enough tht he didn't do it for others or he didn't do it so tht next time Ishita could tell abt it ..he didn't plan it but it happened & she told him it was her moment & by telling her not to share he kind off said it's his moment as we'll be coming THEIR first moment so don't share it

Bang On! I agree with every point. I did not really know what was bothering me and why I was not able to enjoy their relations as shown by these CVs..They better fix the relationship before they lose viewers.. I am tired of Raman's attitude and the influence Shagun still has on their relationship. Ishita deserves better!

Originally posted by: btalwar

First of all you do not need to apologize for putting out your thoughts in this forum ... you just presented your POV and did not bash anyone or demean anyone.

Having said that, I do not support you one bit and I here by present my counter POV for that.

I am no feminist either but a very strong supporter of equal rights. Yet, I loved the beauty of this scene yesterday for one sole reason .. I could believe in what Raman did or what Ishtia yearned for.

Raman has of course been harsh towards her from the beginning of this relationship but have you noticed the subtle change ... they used to bicker and outdo each other in the beginning and now it has moved on to the cute vaali nok jhonk. There is a change in the way they speak to each other.. a simple instance like pagal madrasan was said with disgust or contempt by Raman and now he uses the same phrase while smiling also. There is a change.

Coming down to yesterday's scene. If you notice, what affected Raman was the fact that his wife thinks he is unromantic. The catalyst happened to be Shagun's scene.

Notice, that he was simply offended with Shagun's stance and left the room in disgust. He was angry from her disgusted from her. If he had to prove a point to Shagun, he could have done something in front of her and the family to prove a point and show it to her. That is when he would actually be demeaning his present marriage. Instead, he left that room, albeit disturbed.

He came back later once Shagun had left and insisted Ishita to accompany him. Notice his expressions, he wanted to spend some time with her. He was as affected as her. He gave a lame excuse to Mihir to stand by and instead went ahead with Ishita.

And then finally the dance. He did not want to prove a point. It was the man in him who was affected by the words that his wife thinks he is simply an arrogant man with no romantic soul in him. Therefore, he urges her to do something childish like dance in the rain and says ...
"Mai bhi to dekhu ki mai vakaye me khadoos aur insensitive hoon" .. he found something missing in his relationship and wanted to mend that. So it was a beautiful attempt from my end.

Coming down to Ishita ... a woman who has been constantly rejected on the day of her engagement ... rejected numerous times by so many men in her life, rejected by her husband many a times ... and now the ex wife of her husband mocks her in front of her relatives. Ishita gave Shagun the perfect opening egged on by Param by talking about Raman being kadoos and unromantic to Mihika. She should remember the company she's in before she makes statements like that. Shagun being Shagun relished the moment to belittle Ishita. Hopefully Ishita refrains from making such statements about her husband in company. It's not very lady in my opinion. Some things are not to be shared with others, esp. if they are in mixed company...some welcome and others not so much.

So, her self-confidence will be at its lowest given the situation. If you look, she did not react. She was just sad. Extremely sad. She was working through everything like a robot.
She did not even accompany Raman with all her heart.

So, when Raman asked her out ... and danced with her .. and treated her like a woman for the first time in her life ... she was absolutely overwhelmed ... look at her ... she was close to tears ...

She was earlier reluctant and stopped him but she eventually agreed after Raman's same dialogue of khadoos and insensitive .. that is when she understood Raman had heard and what he is going to do is for HER ... solely for her and not to prove anyone else any point.

something like doobte ko tinke ka sahara ... what Raman did brought back the woman in her ... it brought back her self confidence in her as a woman.

For me, this is what made this scene entirely beautiful.

BUT, what made is extremely beautiful was the talk on the next day when Raman says that some moments are to be cherished between the couple and not for for any one else. Glad he told her that. 👏

He definitely repeated his stance about the earlier night that whatever happened was between them and a progress in their relation ... it was not to prove any point ...

Aiyooo ... just realized I ended up writing a Ramayan on your post .. sorry for hijacking it dear ...

Your thoughts, agreement or disagreement in welcome.

Mera

Reema, I agree with everything youve said. He didnt craft that moment, it happened spontaneously. Theyve had MANY KKHH moments before. Not cliched ones like showering flowers from a tree, clutching the limb like a scared monkey. That scene with Shagun was not sexy or romantic by any definition of the word.

Originally posted by: Nisha0604

Mera

Are you serious?

Did you really want to see romantic moments between Param and Simmi?

I MISS VYAS SO MUCH

WHERE IS HE?

My thing is... WHY cant it be lust? Why does it have to be spiritual, divine and pious. Why does a thing between a man and a woman HAVE TO BE DIVINE?

Why cant they get carried away by the moment. She looked gorgeous, and was hurting, he is insanely hot and confident... and so made the first move

Does everything HAVE to have a greater meaning?

Having sexual satisfaction is also a form of emotional satisfaction. But both Raman n Ishita r more emotional people (read sensitive) than physical people. Hence he didnt kiss her. They need to sort out their emotional baggage first n then they will move onto physical aspect.