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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Nisha0604

Not sure HOW Ashrun, I will stop after I make this plug...😆

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I havent watched hubabu but loved Rishta n Mahi way how i wished Indian tv cud show something like that. This is real India n ppl like these do exist too apart from traditional bahus 😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Raman Bhalla is a potty mouth I agree but he has been thoughtful and classy at various times.
The morning after the grain of rice incident he tells his sister "Leave the vegetarian sandwich alone, go for the omlette, there is only one soul in this house that eats veggie"

THIS from a guy that married her for the child. Ishita has shown discretion fewer times, she bad mouthed Raman in front of his ex-wife and Param, even when in private she reacts with a chhheee or whatever. I am somehow unable to connect to Ishita tho I belong to the same gender, city, upbringing social class etc.

Raman seems way more humane than her to me. Much like everyone else, he wasnt going to stop, she urged him to, and she wanted it to culminate in a kiss

I dont read too much into scenes and draw philosophical and or spiritual conclusions etc. Its a TV show afterall, I take things at face value. It was genuine gesture by the guy, despite being shunned so categorically in bed a few nights ago.

I give the guy credit for trying.


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Nisha0604

Mera

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Thanks Nisha.

We've seen on a couple of occasions, Raman organized something special (their picnic) but has Ishita planned any romantic moments with Raman? 🤔
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Nisha0604

Mera

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Thanks Nisha!😊

We've seen Raman do something special for Ishita on a couple of occasions (that I recall) ...designing the jewelry, planned the picnic etc.

Has Ishita every planned something specially romantic for them?😕 Don't recall any.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Mera
Since you asked me directly I will have to answer bluntly

I find Ishita unrelateable, that might be the script writers' fault. She is sensitive, caring, compassionate, kind, and thoughtful with everyone including Neelu but only occasionally with Raman

The whole license melodrama was very theatrical for my liking sorry! And the whole "yeh fast Raman ke liye hai" "Yeh fast Raman ke liye hai"

As an actor KP has impressed me more as well, as a troubled, insecure, angst ridden, ruthless, bitter, sexy father of two

If you take away the fact that she is "Ruhi ki Ma" she is just like any other leading lady

Must also be a scripting flaw who knows

I like her in rare spontaneous responses she comes up with, her voice is natural and her reactions are real. When she woke him up for a blood test. She was mind blowing. I wud wake my husband up like too... and the way she trailed him clutching his arm tight at that seedy motel
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Nisha0604

Raman Bhalla is a potty mouth I agree but he has been thoughtful and classy at various times. He also likes to tease her (like the did today at breakfast) and that's another way some men romance their wives.😉

The morning after the grain of rice incident he tells his sister "Leave the vegetarian sandwich alone, go for the omlette, there is only one soul in this house that eats veggie"

THIS from a guy that married her for the child. Ishita has shown discretion fewer times, she bad mouthed Raman in front of his ex-wife and Param, even when in private she reacts with a chhheee or whatever. I am somehow unable to connect to Ishita tho I belong to the same gender, city, upbringing social class etc. Agreed! She speaks without thinking at times. Why give Shagun and Param opportunity to demean her, knowing that it's their intention. Param has taken every opportunity to throw salt on her wounds.I liked that Raman finally spelled it out to her to keep some moments personal. 😆

Raman seems way more humane than her to me. Yes, he's more real as a married man with baggage than Ishita. Much like everyone else, he wasnt going to stop, she urged him to, and she wanted it to culminate in a kiss

I dont read too much into scenes and draw philosophical and or spiritual conclusions etc. Its a TV show afterall, I take things at face value. It was genuine gesture by the guy, despite being shunned so categorically in bed a few nights ago.

I give the guy credit for trying.👍🏼 Yes indeed. I'd say he's been rather patient with her.😛


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Both Ishita and Raman are not perfect .They are not flawless , they make mistakes and they are human but Ishita is slightly better person than Raman .
She might not have planned picnic or gifted him some expensive items but she has done much more than that which Raman needs badly ...she has accepted Raman's past gracefully and supports him completely when it comes to Adi ...she has forgiven Raman no of times for hurting her either through his actions or through his taunts...

Ishita has done many things for Raman and his family without expecting anything in return but whatever Raman has done till now is out of gratitude.

He has used Ishita many times to prove a point to Shagun ...it started from Holi dance , phone conversation and parties. Ishita is aware of this even though she has never openly confronted Raman .There were many occasions where Ishita has raised topics related to Raman's love for Shagun but he has never denied his love for Shagun in such cases how can any women be comfortable doing something romantic . He is the same guy who walked past her carrying his ex in his arms and never bothered to explain himself.

Whenever Subbu's topic has come up she has given a straight and a honest answer unlike Raman

I am not saying Ishita is perfect ...I never supported her when she brought Param and Shagun home.Sometimes she is too understanding and lacks self respect ...she acts too sweet with people who insults her ..be it Shagun,Param or Raman...she doesn't know how to stand up for herself.I dislike when she interferes in other life ...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Nisha0604

Mera

Since you asked me directly I will have to answer bluntly I like that!👍🏼

I find Ishita unrelateable, that might be the script writers' fault. She is sensitive, caring, compassionate, kind, and thoughtful with everyone including Neelu but only occasionally with Raman It's either the script or direction/execution...but she has so far very rarely impressed me in the role as a wife.

The whole license melodrama was very theatrical for my liking sorry! And the whole "yeh fast Raman ke liye hai" "Yeh fast Raman ke liye hai" Yep! That was a track that I couldn't digest either🤔.😆

As an actor KP has impressed me more as well, as a troubled, insecure, angst ridden, ruthless, bitter, sexy father of two I'd say he's one of the few talented actors who makes Raman very real and believable.

If you take away the fact that she is "Ruhi ki Ma" she is just like any other leading lady

Must also be a scripting flaw who knows

I like her in rare spontaneous responses she comes up with, her voice is natural and her reactions are real. When she woke him up for a blood test. She was mind blowing. I wud wake my husband up like too... and the way she trailed him clutching his arm tight at that seedy motel

Wonder how many other married people here noticed that too. 😛😆
I am not sure if the actors record their audio separately after the scene is shot on occasion. I've noticed with Ishita her expressions and her affect (tone and pitch) don't match...they sound flat at times. 😕 Another execution/direction problem?
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Raz-

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Ok. Thank you for your long post and i know how it feels when ur 'venting' out in general.
From your post I get that you believe Raman was pitying Ishita. Was he really? Based on my opinions, i don't think he was pitying her. He also was embarrassed at how low Shagun can go. For God sake. She is engaged and Raman is marrried. Yet this woman has no self-respect at all. As Shagun finished her crap. Raman said a bit and walked off. He didn't want to here anymore.

Remember a few episodes back, when Raman told Ishita we would make our own new memories..a bit different but newer ones. Raman was actually taken aback when Ishita told Mihika she has no hopes or anything from such an arrogant man like Raman. She had made up in her mind that there is no way khadoos Ravan Kumar can be romantic! This made Param take a jump and let the joker SHagun talk about the past, that now hold no importance in both Raman or Shagun's life. Its solely a phase of life, neither of the two wants to see again. Atleast definately Raman!!

COming back to Ishita and Raman. I don't think he was pitying her. He was reassuring her- letting her know that they too will have special moments, special private romantic moments in the future. Definately not so soon. But the dance was for her "kuch kuch hota hai" moment. It was for her to giive the warmth in her heart. That she has a husband who acknowledges to the entire world meri patni hai. He yells that atleast 1000 times. He has acknowledge this change in his life. But to show it, after a horrible heartbreak is difficult for him. He stopped himself from kissing her, why? He got dumped from a woman he was romantically and head-over-heels in love with, but what did he got in return?DUMPED? I think Raman is afraid to love and trust again. But buddhu Raman does not realise that these feelings are already present. He just never had time to accept these feelings or feel the presence on these feelings in him. He sees Ishita as his wife. But then he doesn't realise that he loves her. He is scared to tell himself, its ok you can love and trust again. Raman definately knows Ishita is not like Shagun. But trust problems is such that once broken horribly, your even scared to trust your own self. SO imagine what would be going on in Raman's head and heart!

Coming to Ishita. She also went into a heartbreak. 15 years was it? but she definately wasn't married and lived 24 hours of her life with Subbu. She didnt experience any romantic moment ever. So as it seemed from today's episode, she never shared a romantic moment with Subbu either. I felt horrible for her today. It wasn't that she was weak in love. It was just that she felt out of place and lonely. Everyone talking about these beautiful moments, when her hubby's bitchy-ex decides to tell her Raman is oh-so-romantic. She probably felt so dumb and weird. Whatever Param said was right, everyone could see that she felt stink. Raman walked out. He wasn't there, still he knew she would be affected and decided a drive. Maybe the rain dance wasn't even planned. Vandu mentioned the rain might fall. Raman wasn't even stopping he was planning to drive slowly but on Ishita's insistence he stopped and then he decide lets dance in the rain. He also mention listening to her n Mihika's conversation. He probably was to take her on a drive and talk her out. But the atmosphere probably changed the mood. The music the rain and the idea!

The dance- though Ishita wasn't cooperating with Raman, she eventually gave in. She was happy and content, not weak in love. She wanted to feel better and her husband understood her. Her inner thoughts made it very clear. She wanted him to kiss her, but he didn't and Raman observed her and what she wanted and the smile;after walking away it was a 100% assurance that we are going to be there for each other and many of these moments are yet to come. Even more beautiful ones!!



ps.Sorry for such a long post. May be boring but im also sharing my opinions from a different perspective!


That's one wonderful comment and i agree with the same. Shagun didn't even exist for Raman till that moment when she started her bak bak. More than Ishita, it was Raman who was affected since he couldn't stand her presence anymore and went inside.

Regarding Ishita,s comment, he finally got to know how his wife thinks about him and he wanted to change the same. Yes, he's afraid of bringing the word "love" between them but there is abundance of love in their relationship which they both of them are aware of. Raman had no problem in expressing the same. His problem is uttering it before her. Still, bo th of them have got a long way to go.

Leaving that alone, Ishita, being the matured human being, took all that crap even when she couldn't hear a single word. She wanted a assurance that Raman has moved on... Not that she doesn't know that but that moment, she wanted that. She wanted that proximity...

Rain dance was one private moment between them. As Raz said, it was not planned at all. He wanted to reassure Ishita and make her smile again. But, rains and that beautiful lady by her side gave him one new idea...rain dance.

When it began, both of them weren't into it fully... But, at the end, they couldn't come out of that trance... Raman stopped himself because he didn't want Ishita to regret this moment later which i felt was normal.

We must wait and see as to how long Raman manages to maintain that distance in their relationship... I'm quoting Raman because he's the passionate one in their relationship whereas Ishita is new to all this...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Mera
I find it OK, I REPEAT OK to do foolish things when you are attracted to some one. Thats EXACTLY what physical attraction is all about. Its about the heart and not about the brain...

I was totally OK with her dancing with him tonite, even if it was a "compesation" " Grudge offer" whatever they want to call it. At the rate their romance is progressing by the time they both realize they have feelings for each other she would be way past menopause... or actually be baby sitting Ruhi's kids
Such is the speed.

I am tired of reasonable, sensible, practical, pragmatic realistic reactions from her. I want her to do something silly and idiotic like dress up in red lingerie and show up one day when no one is home
Whats wrong in her making the first move or A MOVE?
Not everything has to progress to a reasonable conclusion always

They are extremely attractive adults thrown together in the same room 10 hours a night. WHY shouldnt the sparks fly?


I am glad I got to see a vulnerable side of her. Her expressions today didnt irk me much at all. In fact I interpreted it as her trying to run away from him. He being assertive and aggressive, finaly gathering her up for a kiss. I liked her expression of fear through the dance. The physical stuff is all new to her, he is the stud in this equation. And he played the part to sizzling perfection, it was steaming hot.👏👏👏

I am chalking it down as he being IRRESISTIBLE😳she couldnt contain herself.
All my feminist ideologies be damned😉

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