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redwine1

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Posted: 11 years ago

While you were Sleeping ...

I guess if u really clicked on this post .. then ur curiosity is piqued .. what does this title mean .. & how does it relate to the last weeks episodes ...

Before i get into one of my most controversial posts ... heres a thot which came tumbling in my mind .. which also sparked the title of this post ... Every action which is debatable of Ishita's why does it happen in the night ??? have u ever given this a thot ... she went to meet Param in the dead of night .. she went to meet Raman (for mihir & mihika shaadi) in the dead of night .. she saved Shagun in the dead of night ... & so on & so forth ... its when the world is sleeping .. she is awake ... i loved this thot ... she is one person who is awake as a HUMAN BEING .. she has the power to think beyond petty issues ... Its this woman who offers food to a mother in the waiting room of a juvenile court .. a woman who had just recently put her thru hell ... while every other person in that room did not even give it a thot ... whats amazing is that the woman whom she offered the food too never gave it a thot ... BUT thats ISHITA ... she is a AWAKE Human Being first ... a WOMAN & a MOTHER ...

This tale is of a woman who is a mother ... not just a mother to RUhi ... but a Mother deep inside .. whats a mother .. a woman who is capable of giving LOVE without CONDITIONS ... a woman who is capable of giving herself without CONDITIONS ... a woman who steeped in MAMATA ...

Thats the tale of this story ... & she is diametrically opposite the woman whom she saved that night ... IF Shagun is the SELFISH WOMAN .. then ISHITA is the SELFLESS woman ...

Ok one more point before i start connecting dots .. & before i give my take on the Sauten ghar aayi ... episode ... Did u note even after Param conclusively proved that Ishita planned the farm house fiasco aided by the son of the house's testimony ROMI ... no one in that household BLAMED ISHITA .. Again last nite even after she brought back Shagun to the house ... no one doubted ISHITA's motive ... but understood the basic goodness which prompted this action ... they were definitely not in agreement of this action ... but at a subliminal level they understood what she did ...

All Toshi said or was worried about was WHAT IMPACT this would have on ISHITA ... what Raman asked is HOW SECURE ARE U that u bring the woman who has spent MUCH MUCH more time with me in our BED ... both these people were amazingly only thinking about ISHITA ... i found this really touching ... In all the shouting ... in all the frustration ... in all the acrimony ... the central character for worry was ISHITA ...

DISCLAIMER : As a woman ... as an independent woman ... i would question the act of bringing my husbands ex into my bed ... but this is a serial ... so for the sake of drama this is a creative liberty taken ... hence will look at it from the drama POV .. DIVIANNTANNI has made an excelled post on this .. heres the link ... so will not cover this angle ...

TANNI"S POST : Ishita dint do the right thing, but ...

WHILE U WERE SLEEPING ...

Right from the time Ishita has gone to meet Param in the dead of night the forum has been up in arms about the supposed battering of her character ... i am not going to lie ..but the woman in me was also for a moment outraged by the actions of ISHITA .. but as i keep saying this is not my tale to tell ... & today as i sat & watched last nights episode ... & gave it a thot ... i was actually amazed on how the writers have still managed to KEEP THE CHARACTER CALLED ISHITA IYER INTACT ...

Ok Ok shield ur swords ... heres why this thot came to me ...

It was a bitter night like the one tonite ... she lay restless on her bed ... the world around her slept peacefully ... when suddenly she got up & rushed to her door ...throwing it open ...she saw the man she HATED stand there totally inebriated ... the man came on to her ...but she still managed to bring him to his house & put him on the sofa ... to sleep off the harangues of the night ... but he was not why she was outside her house ... her restless heart heard the plaintive cry of a small child ...

She ran to check & found that small DEFENCELESS child on the bed fighting for her LIFE ... in grave danger ... The MOTHER ... THE WOMAN .. wasted no time ... scooped the child tenderly in her arms & rushed her to the HOSPITAL ... her only concern at that tine was to PROVIDE HELP & CARE to this defenceless child in her arms ...

That night she saved a life ... but she paid dearly for it to ... she paid dearly for it for a very short while ... only till her nemesis figured out his fault ... & then bent backwards to rectify his mistakes ...

CUT TO ... PRESENT DAY ...

It was a bitter night .. the rain clouds were lashing the earth with its strokes .. as she drove thru a deserted street ... she found a DEFENCELESS WOMAN on the road ... with extreme difficulty she gathered the woman & took her to a place of SHELTER ... only to realise that the PLACE OF SOLACE was now closed to this woman ... THE MOTHER THE WOMAN did spend a moment of thot ... & finally took her to the one place where she knew SHELTER WOULD BE GIVEN ... IT WAS HER OWN HOME ... & the CAREGIVER would be ISHITA HERSELF ... because the first rule of charity is ... it begins at home ... meaning u got to lend urself before u ask it of others ...

That night as a defenceless child lay in her arms .. even on that day she did not consult a soul before she SAVED HER LIFE ... & once again tonite as she SAVED the LIFE of yet another individual she did not CONSULT another soul ...SHE IS AFTER ALL A DOCTOR ... & a doctor SHOULD save a life in danger first.

That nights repercussions was that her parents had to spend a couple of hours in jail .. she had to break off her engagement ... but the ultimate prize was ...She saved a life .. she also got to know the man she was about to marry had feet of clay ( another Ashok Khanna in the making) ... she also FINALLY got her PRIZE ... she got her SOUL MATE ... RAMAN KUMAR BHALLA ...

Theres a very popular saying ... NO GOOD DEED GOES UNREWARDED ... this good deed will also not go Unnoticed or unrewarded... BUT yes in the short term she will have to pay dearly for this action of hers yet another ENGAGEMENT WILL BE CHALLENGED ... Every time a person does a good deed they are challenged ... there r a million stones on the path of right & good ... but the ultimate prize is GLORY ...

The serial travelled another full circle yesterday ... she saved the child & today she saved the mother .. is there any question in anyones mind that she has already saved the father ... now all that remains to be saved in this small family of hers is ADITYA ... but thats another tale to tell 😉

Ishita Iyer nee BHalla ...to me THERE HAS BEEN NO DIFFERENCE IN THE CHARACTER CALLED ISHITA IYER ...she has been this way from the FIRST DAY OF THE sERIAL ... an essentially a GOOD PERSON ...

I am sure a lot of u have asked this question ... why is this even necessary .. why is there focus on Shagun & Ashok love story ... but if Shagun was not brought about in contact with the bhalla's ... on the eve of Mihir Mihika registered shaadi ... wouldn't Mihika & the IYERS be entering a match without the FULL KNOWLEDGE OF their FUTURE SON - IN - LAW ... ( oops i did it again .. gave away a it to much ignore this)

Now to really understand this scene ... all one has to do is see her dialog with Toshi regarding Sarika ... or for that matter Raman ... ( yes from sheer acting pov the directors brief to the actor was wrong her tonality was all wrong) ... she tells TOSHI ..whatever be the FORCE & COERCION I WILL DO WHAT IS RIGHT ... she would not ABANDON a POOR DEFENCELESS GIRL ...

Lets pause here a moment ... what made Sarika do what she did with Param ... she had to forgive Param even after the heinous slight he made towards her... cause she was a DEFENCELESS girl .. she had a family to support .. she had a bigger battle to fight the last thing that girl could do was FIGHT A BATTLE OF RIGHTEOUS NESS .. so she even though it went against her morals sacrificed her moral goodness to accept MONEY AS REDEMPTION for the slight that Param dealt her ...

WHAT HAPPENS with what Raman or Toshi were asking ISHITA to do ... by sacking a Sarika or forcing her to look for another job .. they were making SARIKA once again VULNERABLE TO THE LIKES OF PARAM ... Param who would be aware of Sarika's plight could once again prey on her ... forget Param any man could prey on her including ROMI ... a man who has before had a scare of making another woman pregnant ... a man who has insulted a girl with a callous attitude & for a frivolous reason ...

That is the character called ISHITA IYER .. she has a far wider view on life .. she has OPENED her EYES to the RESPONSIBILITY OF FELLOW PEOPLE ... she is a TRUE CARE GIVER ... A TRUE MOTHER ...

She is awake ..while the world is SLEEPING >...

BUT BUT BUT ... that night there were 2 people awake .. while the world slept around them ...

A husband & a wife ...

A husband who was worried silly that his wife had not come home that late & she was not even answering her phone ... A wife who walks in with her own NEMESIS ... the woman who she feels is the love of the man she loves ...

Whoa a convoluted tale ... that night both lay restless & disturbed ... but isn't there a very popular saying ... OH WHAT A TANGLED WEB WE WEAVE AS WE FIRST PRACTISE TO DECEIVE ...

BOTH these people are deceiving the other ... they are constantly hiding behind every possible curtain to not face the fact ... that they are desperately in love with the other ...

What keeps the 2 UP at night this night ...

ISHITA ... she has seen the hurt ... she was doing this for SIRF RAMAN KE LIYE ... but she ended up hurting him the most ... she reopened the wounds ..why was she doing this for raman ... whoa SIRF RUHI KE LIYE IS OVER ...now it is all about the next veil ... SIRF ADI KE LIYE ...

Raman the man who says one thing & immediately hides behind a curtain ... this man is struggling with this tumult of feelings in him ... note how he says .. I WILL SAY SORRY to her ... THEN I WILL KILL HER ... oh yea baby ... JUST like to say I LOVE YOU FIRST & then say SIRF RUHI KE LIYE ...

This man a day back took a BIG STEP to UNVEIL himself in this relation ... HE SLEPT VERY PEACEFULLY NEXT TO HIS WIFE ...

What does the wife do the very next moment ... NOT ONLY DOES SHE REJECT HIM .. she brings another to that BED ... thats the state Raman is in .. he is shocked .. he is confused ... does he have it so WRONG ...

TO SAY THAT These TWO HAVE CROSSED WIRES WILL BE AN UNDERSTATEMENT ...

I am not going to delve & reveal more of the agony that these 2 awake souls went thru ... coz the writers will give us a follow thru scene for this ... & then the explanation will make more sense to us all ... but as u continue to see our fav serial ... have a heart ... till date the characters have not been compromised ... yes their actions sometimes are asinine like the "CHEE" moment .. their actions are sometimes such that we find them incredulous ... BUT this is the ROMANCE TRACK ... & to understand & appreciate romance .. ONE NEEDS TO THINK WITH THE HEART ... NOT THE HEAD ...

Have a great Sunday ... & catch u somewhere on the forum ...

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sophee

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Posted: 11 years ago

Good one Redwine, once again 😊 Love your positivity and your ability to see symbolism in the most depressing tracks!

Yep Ishita is a selfless soul who thinks about others before herself but her action last night was a bit arrogant in my opinion. Its not only about the Mohabbatein between IshRa, if that were so, they'll be seen selfish and self-centered. Where her saviour's act that ill fated night when she saved Ruhi was done for everybody's well being, in last night's act she overlooked everyone else. Shagun has hurt each and every member of the Bhalla house so bringing her back into the house was insensitive. Even a little empathy displayed by Ishita could have helped in understanding her but last night she was adamant that her action was completely justified and everyone else was being unreasonable. And then taking the decision to accommodate Shagun in their room, again without consulting or asking Raman reflected poorly on someone of Ishita's sensibilities. So accepting this Ishita becomes a little difficult when you compare it to the woman who despite being repeatedly hurt by Raman wants only what is best for Ruhi (in the court hearing). Sorry for the jumbled thoughts! Hope I made some sense 😊

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Dhanashree

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Posted: 11 years ago

brilient post..but i am very confuse..i seriaously did not understood that chee moment..why she rejected raman and then brought shagun to their bed.. i am not saying that she should be happy tt see raman next to her..is she ashamed of raman..she herself is very confusing..till today raman is taking every step but every time he gets rejected..does ishita think that raman loves shagun???
does this mean ishita dont want to start her life a fresh with raman!??

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Aani

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Posted: 11 years ago

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Ruby at the risk of kicking start a hornet' nest I am gonna make this reply. If this turns your thread into a warzone ... I am sorry in advance and also would like to say I may not possibly reply to everyone who wages a war against me since tomm is a busy day.

The reason I said all the above things is because ... I think I might be the sole person - not even minority who actually LIKED the whole way this thing was done - and yes that includes the bringing in the bedroom thing too.

Now I am unmarried so perhaps that is also a reason I cannot be passionate about this to the extent that some people are about Ishita' move going as far as to bash her.

So this is something I am looking at solely from the POV of an outsider in a very clinical manner - no emotions attached.

In an ideal world things wouldnt go this far and even if they did I think you have fairly surmised how and why a woman wouldn't marry a man labeled as an abuser, a person she hates solely for the sake of a child... in an ideal world she wouldn't marry into the fiery pits of hell which Ishita did by agreeing to marry not only a complete stranger in a way, but a man with whom she has had quite some awful experiences, even for the sake of his child but this isn't an ideal world and hence people are prone to make mistakes, do things which are out of the blue - even unbelievable to an extent.

Ishu has always been shown as a girl who has helped others and this quality of hers was the thing that made her help even the woman who almost loathes her, who accused her of being an opportunistic gold digger - who incidentally also happens to be the ex-wife of the man who is currently her husband.

You have mentioned how the numerous things that IshRa have suffered has brought them closer and also mentioned that their wires have crossed - which I agree with.

The things which have brought them closer are surprisingly also the things though which have kept them apart with one exception.

These two have major trust issues, a fear of falling in love and handing over the power to destroy them to someone else since they have witnessed the kind of pain love, true love brings - I mention this for Raman too, because from his end the love was true - he may have chosen a wrong woman to love like Ishita chose a weak man, but their feelings were genuine hence the hurt was also severe as well as the pain they suffered as the outcome of their broken relationships.

These two while subconsciously being drawn to each other consciously have always maintained a distance - physically and emotionally as much as they could whenever they could help it. Yes they have involuntarily shared moments which have made them lean on each other for support BUT that has not been without going through a rollercoaster ride - like in Accident track where Raman ended up confessing to Ishita only when he realized his folly and was backed into a corner by the statements of his own child which served as the final blow to the overflowing guilt he already felt for doing what he did... did he trust Ishita until he had realized what he was doing? No, it only struck him when Adi made that remark in school that the truth of his errors dawned upon Raman. Yes he leaned on Ishita because he wanted someone to be there for him who wouldn't let him get cold feet at the last moment.

Her strength became his support.

He appreciates this woman, he thanks her, he admires her and he practically has begun adoring her from the depth of his heart BUT he doesn't make it vocal.

Go back to the nameplate scene and you would see Ishita complaining he has to have sweet words too with sweet gestures. Why would she ask that?

Because certain things need to be said and heard.

Now ... go back to the scene - the Chee moment - I have written a long post about my stance on it in Bhanu' post will paste the link here so that it saves time and space - CHEE ... My analysis from a WOMAN's POV

People have focused so much on Ishita' Chee that they seem to have forgotten Raman' words before that word - where he says he isn't even interested in her, she need not consider herself a hoor - in other words he dismissed her as a woman - a woman he would desire or want as a man.

I recently caught the very first epi of the show on Youtube and would like to share this link here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ob7YvdpeWCI - Ishu and her parents are returning from a type of matrimonial seminar - a boy meets her there who likes her a lot, says he fell in love with her at first sight in a way here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIO72gCPBuw - in the link I posted before, his parents I assume his mom calls up and says though he liked Ishu the match cant happen since their horoscopes dont match which is a lie.

Ishita doesn't even react to it - she merely smiles and is calm and composed - does a rejection not hurt a girl? It does, it has too but for Ishita it has become such a norm she doesn't mull over it cos she has accepted it now for her fate. During the court case she tells her Amma you get love only if you are destined and I am not one of those who are... can it be anymore clear what is this girl' state of mind here? She considers herself as unwanted, discarded - a belief which her husband' callous words reaffirm.

There is a lot of debate as to why the bedroom... but exactly what purpose does a bedroom serve to a couple?

It is their private space - amidst family and children too - it is the sanctuary of two people who share a bond, a relationship which far exceeds any other... it is the space where they bare themselves to each other in every manner, things you cannot reveal to anyone you talk to your partner here, you undress yourself and each other here, you make love here.

But, BUT - in Ishita and Raman' case - the bedroom - a couple' space - has so far not become theirs.

Why do I say this? Because to this date - they haven't acknowledged to even themselves completely they are a couple - would a woman bring the ex of her husband home in a time of crisis - perhaps she would but to their bedroom - NO, not under normal circumstances.

But these are NOT normal circumstances - not completely; yes this event caused a stir rightfully since it happened - the man left the room and the wife followed him, she tried to reason with him but he wouldn't want to hear from her - she retires to the room when he asks her to spare him now. BUT they don't sleep easily - she realizes she has hurt him, he... he is angry and hurt, upset rightfully so too... but you know what - this event was perhaps the catalyst that would wake them up.

They so far have shared the room as unwilling roommates to awkward bedfellows (with Ruhi in the middle) to friends...NOT as a couple, they haven't even admitted to the possibility of it ever happening.

This event somehow would force them to acknowledge the elephant in the room - that they are a couple - they are married and that no one, no third person has a right to interfere in their matters, to step into THEIR personal zone...that they are a we, an us here - and not just two people co-parenting a child, who happens to be the biological offspring of one of them.

Ishita opted for the room when she ran out of choices - a room which she considers hers... however its a room which he had been reluctant to share with her. In the initial days he didnt even allow her space in the cupboard as a courtesy and even now taunts her for the same like he did when he wore the robe he had gifted her the other day.

With this incident he moved out of the room and allowed her to let Shagun stay... but now, now when she leaves he would definitely give a piece of his mind to Ishita - about allowing another woman and not just any woman but his ex - into their space, into their room and a bed which ought to be theirs... do you see what I am trying to put here?

The thing which was always avoided, brushed aside - would be confronted and acknowledged with this - their status as a couple and the fact that as one someday... they would make that final leap into this relationship, take that step which would serve to unify them on all counts...

If you look at their Suhaag Raat scene - in the episode funnily Ishita accepts a packet unknown to the contents of it and immediately is pissed off with him when she sees its a packet of condoms - a method of prevention and protection - a barrier- when he sees it he is angry and pissed off with her when he thinks she misunderstood things and thought he has plans for her... when they argue he throws the packet and lets her know its all a misunderstanding... he is the one who has to toss aside the barrier... since funnily it is because of him the barrier even lands in their room... when the receptionist misunderstands him as he clearly never states his requirements... here too Raman would have to clearly state what he requires from this relationship - wants from it to make her understand how he cannot tolerate anything of this sort from her in the future... since he requires her to understand she is his wife and thus the only woman who he wants in his life, in that room and on his bed...

Raman has always made Ishita feel as a woman she doesn't attract him - but attraction, desire - these are a part of a marriage, a couple' life and their prominence is in the bedroom and on a couple' bed... in addressing this facet of their marriage - the unspoken, unacknowledged attraction which was not addressed even when the couple shared their first very telling moment of attraction in a shower as they got wet would be addressed... this marriage which began as a compromise, a deal, a contract would no longer be viewed through that spectrum - the sirf Ruhi ke liye tag would be washed away with this completely.

So while I do realize Ishita has made an error in doing what she did, I for one am hoping to see the positive aspect of this - the good that can come out of this event since so far each and every possible thing that has been thrown their way has brought these two closer but nothing, nothing has made them realize, confess or acknowledge their attraction for each other.

And in acknowledging that he envisions them as a normal couple - a couple who fights, talks and makes love in the privacy of their room - Raman would solemnize his vows completely clearing Ishita' misconceptions about herself as a woman and also letting her catch a glimpse into the mind and heart of her closed off husband. A husband who ogles at her as she sews on a button and then gives her a robe while saying she has a sadi hui shakal, a husband who wants to disrobe in front of her but also keeps on sending her mixed signals... here he would have to lay his cards out in the open.

A woman was affected and attracted to a man she got drenched with recently - it is that attraction which makes her shy and blush as she recalls those moments whilst brushing her hair and later makes her flee the room too when he appears... since she was scared of not just her feelings but his reaction too... but assured of that - verbally it would be impossible to go back which is what is needed for these two now.

They know that there is attraction here amidst them but it hasn't been verbalized.

I am a huge fan of classics and old songs - one of my fav movies is Sangam and a beautiful song from it called O Mere Sanam sung by Mukesh and Lata Mangeshkar is a track I adore... in it Raj Kapoor' character has these lines as part of the lyrics -

sunte hain pyaar ki duniyaa mein do dil muhskil se samaate hain
kya gair wahaan, apnon tak ke saaye bhi na aane paatey hain

The lines above are as per me the most amazing lines written about a couple - in the movie he learns his wife had a lover - one when they weren't even married or engaged because he finds letters hidden in a stash from him in his wife' belongings... and starts suspecting her of keeping ties with the man even when married...

but the gist of these lines is simple - that in the realm of lovers two hearts find it hard as it is to come together but once they do - forget about strangers even those who are beloved to us don't find a place - which is how it is between a couple, a husband and a wife - in their realm (their bedroom) no one has a place when they are lovers, when they come together not even those they love as in family or children forget then the question of a third person - someone who could pose a danger to them, their relationship - doesn't even stand a chance.

This track is about making the space that they have cohabited for months as friends, parents into their space - their bedroom and making them a couple, partners - making them address this aspect for the first time in the open, their first step towards it.

I suppose that is what this is though... hope to be right and ... phew I really made a long reply.

Ps Am posting the video to this song here - discard the audio quality but this is the only video of the song in its full version posted on Youtube sadly give it a listen I am sure you would love it

[YOUTUBE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZ11YUfPjwU[/YOUTUBE]

LINK - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZ11YUfPjwU

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pomegranate

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: sophee72
Good one Redwine, once again 😊 Love your positivity and your ability to see symbolism in the most depressing tracks!
Yep Ishita is a selfless soul who thinks about others before herself but her action last night was a bit arrogant in my opinion. Its not only about the Mohabbatein between IshRa, if that were so, they'll be seen selfish and self-centered. Where her saviour's act that ill fated night when she saved Ruhi was done for everybody's well being, in last night's act she overlooked everyone else. Shagun has hurt each and every member of the Bhalla house so bringing her back into the house was insensitive. Even a little empathy displayed by Ishita could have helped in understanding her but last night she was adamant that her action was completely justified and everyone else was being unreasonable. And then taking the decision to accommodate Shagun in their room, again without consulting or asking Raman reflected poorly on someone of Ishita's sensibilities. So accepting this Ishita becomes a little difficult when you compare it to the woman who despite being repeatedly hurt by Raman wants only what is best for Ruhi (in the court hearing). Sorry for the jumbled thoughts! Hope I made some sense 😊

you basically what I had in mind.

i don't fault ishita for rescuing shagun, in fact, no one in the forum does. it is her actions afterwards that people cannot digest. I know this is a serial but this show has tackled a lot of issues realistically but putting her husband's ex wife in his bed was disturbing. i cannot look past it no matter what.

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Oishi Dasgupta

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Posted: 11 years ago

I hate you.😆😆 You always make me think too much.😡😆 This was a compliment.😆😛

Coming to the post, great post Ruby. I guess when you look at a serial only as a serial it's easier to digest.

Of course Ishu would have helped Shagun. It doesn't matter who Shagun is, Ishu for the sake of humanity would have helped. Most of her actions after that I could accept until she puts Shagun in the bedroom but for the sake of Taani's post, I even conceded that. It's still wrong but oh well.

What really bothered me yesterday was the fact that Ishu has always been shown to be a sensible person, someone who always puts herself in other people's shoes, consider the feelings of all the party's involved and is hence able to direct her action accordingly and yet yesterday, she did not consider her family's feelings until quiet later at night- and that's debatable. Ishita is a sefless women, true, but she is sensible too, so a sensible women like her- like she had always done before, would have considered everyone's perspective and then make a decision on Shagun. When the whole family and later Raman blasted at her, she kept on trying to prove her perspective, where I think a simple sorry would be a better option than explaining her situation because the whole family did understood her but they were still hurt.

Later in her room when she was awake and looking troubled, some people said it's because she felt guilty, others think it's because she was sad no one was understanding her perspective but it's impossible to tell, because there was no monologue at all and I am pretty sure that lack of monologue was because cv's themselves didn't know what to make Ishita feel.😆

Toshiji, I am glad was only thinking about Ishita and Raman's well being yesterday more than her own hate for Shagun but Toshiji is like a pendulum😆, one moment she is so sensible that it amazes you and another, she doesn't even understand the simplest of thing and I don't know what to feel about that.😕😆

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redwine1

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: sophee72
Good one Redwine, once again 😊 Love your positivity and your ability to see symbolism in the most depressing tracks!
Yep Ishita is a selfless soul who thinks about others before herself but her action last night was a bit arrogant in my opinion. Its not only about the Mohabbatein between IshRa, if that were so, they'll be seen selfish and self-centered. Where her saviour's act that ill fated night when she saved Ruhi was done for everybody's well being, in last night's act she overlooked everyone else. Shagun has hurt each and every member of the Bhalla house so bringing her back into the house was insensitive. Even a little empathy displayed by Ishita could have helped in understanding her but last night she was adamant that her action was completely justified and everyone else was being unreasonable. And then taking the decision to accommodate Shagun in their room, again without consulting or asking Raman reflected poorly on someone of Ishita's sensibilities. So accepting this Ishita becomes a little difficult when you compare it to the woman who despite being repeatedly hurt by Raman wants only what is best for Ruhi (in the court hearing). Sorry for the jumbled thoughts! Hope I made some sense 😊

Ok just to spark discussion ... lets c this in its entirety ...

Shagun apart from being just a defenceless woman on the street who required protection .. (if she was not related ... maybe another action would be called for) ...

But isn't she thinking of the family ... ISNT for whatever reason .. SHAGUN related to the entire Bhalla clan ... How does a Raman answer to an ADI .. that his mother who was not in any state to be coherent even for basic sense of humanity couldn't find shelter in the Bhalla household ...

I dint think personally she was at any point of time unreasonable last night .. she tried justifying her thot process ,... BUT what everyone Toshi, Raman Simmi all did was pass judgement .. did anyone in that household ASK ISHITA WHY SHE BROUGHT SHAGUN HOME .. Ishita is an educated woman ..who has never harmed this household .. so why did Toshi or Raman not ask her ..instead of alegating her ... what was the diff between Raman , Toshi & Simmi yesterday .. dint they 2 see something & jump to conclusion .. dint they at that moment of time .. only think about themselves .. SIMILAR to what Simmi is doing ..

I am with u totally ... SHAGUN in their BEDROOM was completely not palatable to me 2 ... & if u go back & c the scene .. thats the one thing which has miffed off Raman the most ... a bed which he wants to start afresh in ... her actions has pushed that bed back into the past ...

But who said ISHITA is perfect ... if she is unfallable then the story would probably not be that interesting ...

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mar_21

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Posted: 11 years ago

Perfect...

There are no other words left to articulate ishita's selfless act of care n concern for ALL...she is one n only character in the YHM family who holds her head on her shoulder righteously in all situations of life. Ex In Sarika scene where most people in our forum conveniently forgot the stand she took for her. . Where is it written that to save a mother's concern for her spoilt son destroy somebody else's life.

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redwine1

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: dhanashree28
brilient post..but i am very confuse..i seriaously did not understood that chee moment..why she rejected raman and then brought shagun to their bed.. i am not saying that she should be happy tt see raman next to her..is she ashamed of raman..she herself is very confusing..till today raman is taking every step but every time he gets rejected..does ishita think that raman loves shagun???

DHanashree ...

more than the chee moment .. the rubbing off his touch was more disturbing ... that scene was ruined by the director ... have written about that on Bhanu's post ...

These 2 Raman & Ishita have their wires crossed ... they each keep hiding behind any & every curtain .. these 2 have been badly hit in love .. they don't TRUST THEMSELVES in LOVE .. for both these 2 people love has been all consuming .. Raman said it yesterday ... It took him 6 years to get over that woman ...

Is this a reality check for both these people?? ... the first & most obvious reason for getting Shagun to Bhalla home is simply to expose the Mihir past ... but like i have said in the past .. each & every track & character has a part to play in the story called RAMAN & ISHITA ... will this bringing her home not open the biggest discussion between these 2 ..

lets c .. when they spoke about their pasts ... all that was resolved was ISHITA saying she has got over her past .. her past has no place in her present .. & she doesnt think about SUBBU .. but Subbu has no direct link to Ishu ... unlike Shagun who shares kids with Raman...

But all raman said was first love has a different meaning for everyone ... during the accident track when Raman accused Ishita of flicking the pic .. she allegated him to be in love with SHAGUN .. .did he DENY that to her FACE ..NO NADA >>..

WILL bringing his PAST right in front of his face ... not open this can of beans ?? & ultimately bring the lovers closer ... 😉

Isse zyada if i say .. it will be the love track .. so wait & watch & let this unfold ... the writers of the show have never disappointed us in the past ... during the accident track a whole lot of stories were out that Mihir is the culprit ... i read posts of people saying how they predicted that Mihir will be the culprit ... but that was not the case ... the writers totally justified that track .. maybe we need to give the writers some time to justify this track as well ...

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Posted: 11 years ago

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Awesome post redwine...😊 i love to read ur posts...

so true ishu is a slefless woman thats why she saved a woman who dont even respect her as a woman..for her she was just woman whom she knows thats it...

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