While You were Sleeping ..... - Page 3

Originally posted by: Aeryn

Well Ruby Ishita's goodness is not questioned.

The forum is not up in arms because she helped a defenseless Shagun. That was understood.

What is unpalatable is that Ishita came across as majorly insensitive. She didn't consult with anyone and brought in the very same person who destroyed said house. I don't agree with the point that because this is her house she has automatically the right to bring anyone she wants in. That's not how you live in joint family and in society in general (doing as you please I mean)

There's no point in selflessness if it makes you impermeable to your loved one feelings IMO. How fair is that?

I cannot digest her self righteousness. She didn't try to understand Bhallas plight and instead was adamantly sitting on her high horse. She is right bas nothing else matters

You know Ruby having Ishita being unable to fathom why Raman (and Bhallas) would be so hurt by what she did is very disappointing at this stage.

This is a serial so we know that ultimately this incident will serve to bring Ishra closer, that's not the point. But along the way balance, sensibility and maybe most of all make the characters relatable and realistic is necessary. Last night Ishita wasn't. She has been portrayed as someone fundamentally good, sometimes naive but never as callous with people she loves. How can we explain that she thought of Mrs Iyer being unwell but NOT of Bhallas' trauma at seeing Shagun who so mercilessly wronged them at their house so comfortably sleeping on the son's bed?!

Originally posted by: redwine1

hey Aeryn ...

I have written in the begging of my post .. I find making Shagun sleep on the same bed unpalatable .. hence i left that bit out ... thats a mistake by the writers ... but u give it lee way as they are trying to overdramatise .. & think of a more varied target audience ..

But this post is about the writers ... i am not justifying Ishita's action .. but my question to this forum is .> WHEN HAS SHE NOT BEHAVED IN THE SAME MANNER ..

now lets look at a scene which recently happened .. the licence scene .. Raman;s way of handling harmed no one .. he did what he had to do without consulting her .. but she would not have let him take that step .. SO raman in character is a man who has a holistic view & a practical view of things .. he is a doer as well .. but his actions affect himself only ..

Ishita what did she do ... she put ROmi herself & sarika at harms way .. had she spoken to raman he would've used the info .. brought down Suraj .. but all this without harming anyone but himself ..

My post is about the fact that ISHITA HAS NOT CHANGED .. this is her from the beginning ... this action of what she did with Shagun is not any different from what she has done with Ruhi ...even then she should've asked .. informed ... at least her family the ULTIMATE SUFFERERS ... but thats not how she works ...

Edit: IMO Ishita is someone who has been portrayed as mature and always thinking of others emotions

Nice way to be positive but I still reserve my opinion. What ishita did was wrong and she had options! Just.my opinion.

hey its just like you stole my words.. just copying what I wrote on Tanni's post

What I think is, Instead of judging her actions just think once how her character is shown since start... She is always like that... A selfless person who couldn't see anybody in trouble or pain. She even had forgiven Sarika who sent her to jail. She brought the devil back to their room for the happiness of her sister in law who never ever miss a chance to insult her. She for goodness sake married a person whose face was unbearable for her someday. She is ISHITA RAMAN BHALLA, who could never give a second thought while helping anyone. And Shagun was after all her children's biological mother. Think of her being as the mother of Adi and Ruhi instead of Raman's ex. Or let's forget all the relationships think of her as a woman.
The behaviour of Bhallas is justified but Ishita can't b judged as wrong. She is always like that. "Selfless".. If you find her wrong or changed then I m sorry my dear friends you have not known or understood Ishita.

Originally posted by: Oishi_sonu

I hate you.😆😆 You always make me think too much.😡😆 This was a compliment.😆😛

Coming to the post, great post Ruby. I guess when you look at a serial only as a serial it's easier to digest.

Of course Ishu would have helped Shagun. It doesn't matter who Shagun is, Ishu for the sake of humanity would have helped. Most of her actions after that I could accept until she puts Shagun in the bedroom but for the sake of Taani's post, I even conceded that. It's still wrong but oh well.

What really bothered me yesterday was the fact that Ishu has always been shown to be a sensible person, someone who always puts herself in other people's shoes, consider the feelings of all the party's involved and is hence able to direct her action accordingly and yet yesterday, she did not consider her family's feelings until quiet later at night- and that's debatable. Ishita is a sefless women, true, but she is sensible too, so a sensible women like her- like she had always done before, would have considered everyone's perspective and then make a decision on Shagun. When the whole family and later Raman blasted at her, she kept on trying to prove her perspective, where I think a simple sorry would be a better option than explaining her situation because the whole family did understood her but they were still hurt.

Later in her room when she was awake and looking troubled, some people said it's because she felt guilty, others think it's because she was sad no one was understanding her perspective but it's impossible to tell, because there was no monologue at all and I am pretty sure that lack of monologue was because cv's themselves didn't know what to make Ishita feel.😆

Toshiji, I am glad was only thinking about Ishita and Raman's well being yesterday more than her own hate for Shagun but Toshiji is like a pendulum😆, one moment she is so sensible that it amazes you and another, she doesn't even understand the simplest of thing and I don't know what to feel about that.😕😆

Originally posted by: redwine1

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yaar i missed the LU discussions 2 days in a row .. hence this big one ..which hopefully provoked thot & some discussion ...

I would love to do an analysis of Ishita's thots ... the fact that the director & the editor were briefed for giving so MUCH time to that introspection ... is the big MOMENT ...

Its interesting .. these 2 can't sleep without the other .. when do u think they will realise this ... they need resolution on a daily basis of every issue ... while the BIGGEST ISSUE BETWEEN THEM LAYS UNRESOLVED ... & UNSPOKEN .. .brilliant IRONY was shown there ...

Thats the huge take in yesterdays episode .. their inability to sleep ...

When has Ishita ever thot before she has acted ... look at each & every occasion mam has gone on crusade ... the only time she sat to think was when she was revealed the truth about the accident culprit .. but then before she could act the wind was stolen from beneath her wings ...

Tell me which sensible woman ... marries a man who is an accused child beater whom she hates .. who has sent her parents to jail .. who has called her every kind of name in the book ...

which sensible woman picks the child of a neighbour & goes in the dead of nite to the hospital without even informing a soul .. forget the neighbours family she doesnt inform her own family .. that to on the day she was to be engaged ...

which sensible person on her own engagement will be offering care to a neighbours child .. when the neighbours whole family was alive & kicking to take over the responsibility ..

Since that time it was "SIRF RUHI KE LIYE" .. it was justified .. also since this also paved the way for Mr. Bhalla to understand how NICE was Ishita & ultimately think of her as Raman;s wife .. it was ultimately justified ... it was a means to an end ..

Since as off now we don't know what the results of this action will be ... shud'nt we wait & watch maybe it will play itself out .. & the outcome will be similar ..

Do u recall the scene when Ishu comes back wit RUhi ... Mihika comes up to her & she says > WHAT THE HELL ARE U DOING ... that was the question in my mind to at that time 😉

Ruby ... am honestly getting bored ... and have conciously stayed away from the forum because I dunno about Ishra but mere dimag ka fuse ud gaya from whatever has happened.

Coming down to your post ... I am sorry ... I am too lazy to write a Ramayan ... I agree a 110% with your post ... LEKIN BUT KINTU PARANTU ...

I simply cannot digest that she made Shagun sleep in her own bed .. that is wrong at god knows how many levels.

Like I wrote in the LU yesterday, to put it crudely, it is like emotionally brutally molesting your husband.
It is the same room, same bed, same set up where Raman and Shagun have had beautiful moments. where Adi and Ruhi were conceived, where they had shared numerous ups and downs ...

As usual, let me bring in my personal POV here ... it is something extremely personal but I am still sharing it because somehow it is loosely related to what Ishita did in yesterday's episode ... My husband was involved with another girl before we met ... things did not materialize and she ended up marrying someone else in his friend circle ... years later ... i met him, we fell in love and are happily married together. Now, all of us good friends as we have a common group of friends. Recently, three couples visited our place and although I have full trust on my husband that he is no more affected by her, we offered our room to another couple while they stayed in the guest room.

Notice the WE ... I specifically wrote WE because I saw it in my husband's eyes that he was not comfortable with her being inside our bedroom; of course it goes without saying that I will never allow it. And believe me, I am fine with the rest. They talk, meet, party everything ... yet my bedroom is off limits.

So, imagine, when I can draw a line for husband's ex, someone who is the mother of two kids and very happily settled in her own life ... in the case of Shagun ... she is not only his ex-wife ... she is the mother of his children ... she is someone who was an apple of his eye for so long ... and he has taken pains to remove her from his life ... therefore it is absolutely wrong to bring Shagun inside their bedroom.


Bruaah ... sorry for ruining your post with something entirely different but I cannot digest this at all and therefore had planned to stay away from the forum all together.