What about Suraj? - Page 4

Originally posted by: KUTUR

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AWESOME POST...SWEETIE...well done,mujhe toh lagta tha ke suraj babu ko mujhse zyaadah aur koi pyar nahi karta,but how beautifully and deeply u analysed the character,right from childhood to this current stage,i feeling proud of myself that i am a suraj fan...

but only a slight a contradictory point,we all know that be it childhood or adults,be they friends or foes,the too just know each other too well,their weaknesses,their strength,their deepest secrets,or feelings,the two were and are always into one another,[though these understandings are more on suraj's side],it just that,chakor really needs to connect well with suraj's emotions,,,,,,he is a very unexpressive person,so its true that one has to play very hard in order to understand him deeply and bind to him emotionally...

Originally posted by: nycgal

Hi Claudia...I am Rajshree..I dont think we have interacted on the forum..I have read so many of ur posts and I absolutely enjoy reading your perspective on the characters...

I havent watched the show as long as many of you have so my perspective might be a bit off...(A lot of things have changed in the past few episodes but I still wanted to put my views acoss ).When I started following Udaan Suraj came off as an entitled, shrewd human being, Chakor as someone who is a very nice human being but is sometimes a know-it-all. I did go back n watch a few episodes to better understand the characters.

One thing which I noticed was Chakor had everything slotted into white n black as far as Suraj was concerned. There never was any grey area for him..She set the benchmark ( a little unfairly at times, I felt) impossibly high for him and he was bound to fail. I understand he was rather nasty at times.As you have pointed out, she could be rather robotic at times where he was concerned. I had felt that way too and had mentioned the same in many of my posts.Sometimes , I felt he was a means to an end ( though that has changed)

She wasnt as stringent with Imli n Vivaan .. Or maybe she was always a little more forgiving with them. I understand one is family and the other boyfriend ..But Chakor , as a person , treated everyone fairly..I thought she was more accepting of grey areas if it comes to Imli and Vivaan..She always had an explanation for why Imli or Vivaan did this or that .. Never for Suraj...For someone who thought of the greater good,I found that to be a little weird and a little inconsistent with her character..

Originally posted by: eshasrk

You know I just cannot get over yesterday's episode...Chakor's emotional outburst really did something to me I guess. All this while when some of us were presuming that Chakor seems robotic, because nothing seem to make sense to her, then all this while this girl held her emotions, her pain, her disappointment inside and never showed it to the world until yesterday...

And this is the difference btwn Suraj and Chakor

Chakor rose above her pain, hurt , disappointment and rejection and can still be a more humane, not going around trying to destroy or hurt everything that comes in her path that doesn't fit there, whereas Suraj cannot deal with these things and becomes violent or hurtfull when things don't go as he wishes...I think in this case Suraj needs to grow up a little, he is not the only one who had / has to deal with pain and whatsoever in his life...

If he suffered as a kid, then Chakor equally or maybe more suffered as a child...

And if it's justified that Suraj is the way he is , then it's more than fair that it's justified for Chakor as well to be how she is...

And yes I am somewhat happy although I didn't like the timing much, that the CV's made it clear that Chakor feels akward about the whole Suraj-Imli issue, so maybe just maybe they will clear this mess up...and maybe you guys were right all along that Suraj was never in love with Imli

Chakor made it clear that she needs someone in her life who loves her for who she is with all her dreams and with all her flaws, someone who makes her his first priority and not someone who sees her as a second choice, becoz he got rejected the first time around and she's not good enough to be the first choice...so let's see if Suraj is that person or someone else...

And I think Suraj should go through rejection completely and suffer for what he has done so far and only then maybe he will understand what this is all about...

And yes even if Chakor likes Suraj, she will never admit it in a conscious state untill he does

Originally posted by: nycgal

Hi Claudia...I am Rajshree..I dont think we have interacted on the forum..I have read so many of ur posts and I absolutely enjoy reading your perspective on the characters...

I havent watched the show as long as many of you have so my perspective might be a bit off...(A lot of things have changed in the past few episodes but I still wanted to put my views acoss ).When I started following Udaan Suraj came off as an entitled, shrewd human being, Chakor as someone who is a very nice human being but is sometimes a know-it-all. I did go back n watch a few episodes to better understand the characters.

One thing which I noticed was Chakor had everything slotted into white n black as far as Suraj was concerned. There never was any grey area for him..She set the benchmark ( a little unfairly at times, I felt) impossibly high for him and he was bound to fail. I understand he was rather nasty at times.As you have pointed out, she could be rather robotic at times where he was concerned. I had felt that way too and had mentioned the same in many of my posts.Sometimes , I felt he was a means to an end ( though that has changed)

She wasnt as stringent with Imli n Vivaan .. Or maybe she was always a little more forgiving with them. I understand one is family and the other boyfriend ..But Chakor , as a person , treated everyone fairly..I thought she was more accepting of grey areas if it comes to Imli and Vivaan..She always had an explanation for why Imli or Vivaan did this or that .. Never for Suraj...For someone who thought of the greater good,I found that to be a little weird and a little inconsistent with her character..

Originally posted by: Radhika_r

u are perfectly correct in your assessment . she did have an explanation when vivaan did not trust her about the swap.she actually forgave vivaan for not trusting her without even questioning him or asking him why did he not trust her when she was literrally falling at his feet . she had to prove her innocence to vivaan by means of recorded tape and she took that easily .. the same happeneed when she was accused of burning the cradle and vivaan and imli believed it was her. in fact suraj asked vivaan how he could believe this of a girl he loved but she took it in her stride and forgave vivaan for that too. she always believed what imli told her about suraj. she never gave suraj the benefit of the doubt in the imli fiasco. she was convinced that suraj was the villain and imli the victim.

she forgave her parents also for not trusting her. it is just that when it comes to suraj she is very stringent.

Originally posted by: Etna_Dia

I am with in this one, Radhika. I will always consider that Vivaan and Imli insulted her far more worst. Imli, no words for her, as this character just doesn't know the meaning of word "shame", let alone, to feel it. So I'll give her a pass. I am only hopping one day she will receive the same treatment that Chakor, being totally innocent, got it.

But Vivaan, he insulted her very character. He actually believed that she came back after ten years with only one thought: to trap him so she can get married to Suraj!!! What more can we say?

As for Suraj, he never insulted her until the divorce drama and he always used to praise her like no one has ever done. Yes, they had their arguments, but that's normal between a married couple. She said things, he said things. But I think she always has sad more nasty things to him.

When the divorce drama happened, I don't know why he became so bitter. But even there, at the party, I felt that he insulted himself more than her. To let the whole world know that they don't live as husband and wife it hurts his reputation more than hers. Men who are not able to consummate with their own wives are made a mockery by other men, they make jokes and different assumptions.

Originally posted by: _Namita_

Makes me feel like Chakor deep down somewhere had hoped Suraj would be different. Not fair of course.
What bothers me the most is, Chakor forgave Imli and Vivaan and her parents. This needs to be addressed, they distrust her so quickly so why does she forgive them??
Is it because they pay attention to her?? Isn't it what Chakor said when drunk.

Originally posted by: Etna_Dia

Namita, I think that what happened to Chakor since childhood had affected her deeply and profoundly.

She was sold by her own parents from when she was in her mother's womb and when she was just a little kid was told by her own mother to obey her "masters".

She was pushed from here and there like a merchandise and ten years she was with another family only that she can escape KN's fury.

To her, being with her own family must have been like paradise. So, maybe that's why she keeps them in such high esteem and is ready to overlook many of their mistakes. But, honestly no one of them deserves it:

- Imli is so selfish that blames her for missing home for ten years when she has no fault in this; that's why Chakor has more than love for her, she also has guilt and maybe this is the reason why she can't put Imli in her place like an elder sister should whenever Imli becomes hysterical;

- as for her parents, they have sold their own child and yet they keep scolding her like they had a big part in her education.

I believe that CV are really smart, Namita. They had studied this "bandhua" problem really well. The "bandhua" system exist not just because men like KN exist but also because there are people like Chakor's parents ready to sell their own children and themselves and not willing to fight or think for better solutions. Chakor's parents may blame KN all day long but they are just as guilty as he is.

Originally posted by: _Namita_

@Bold...Claudia, I hope this is brought up. It is a social drama after all. The lesson should be there for people to learn. As long as parents are willing to sell their kids, bandhua system isn't going away.

People KN will always exist but have the ability to say 'NO' to selling is the key here. I am a mother, and I would rather sell my soul to the devil than let harm come to my child.

I don't understand how parents can do that. A Firstly, if conditions are so worse, why the need to have kids. If you can't provide for your children, you don't deserve to be a parent.s all the child will know is pain.

What kind of sadist people want to harm their own children. Sorry, but this is making me so mad. Chakor wouldn't blame her parents but Teju should question them. I said sell your kid and you did?? How could you??