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Posted: 8 years ago
#41
Mother of God.
Hats off to you for taking the time to write this post! This post has literally been more or less of a lifesaver for me, cause the CVs don't particularly seem interested in showing Suraj's POV at all.
It had always been about Chakor, and these past few episodes she's come down from her Jagat Maata role to a normal woman, which is good, cause how long could she have been portrayed as ideal and without flaws?

And Suraj! From the time he was young, to even now, everything he's done has been with the same mentality, for some love from his parents. Even if he was the antagonist after the leap, One can't forget his still on going child mentality of pleasing his parents. And if that reflected anytime, it was when Teju was being tortured by the Trio.

After reading this post, I'm also some what curious whether Suraj would have moved on from things so soon. All his life he's been trying to please his dad, and he couldnt have done a 180 in the snap of a finger.

And again, THANK YOU for this post! Love Love Love! ❤️
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Beautiful post dear.. Wonderful analysis.. I always Love how emotionally u connected with Suraj.. U always see him in different point of view..
I know u following the show frm start.. It must be hard to see Suraj family being torn apart.. He is having no one by his side..

Actually if it is not udaan definitely we will see this kind emotions in Suraj.. But udaan mostly frm chakor perspective story.. So we may miss this emotional Suraj.. But definitely one day we will see this side of him..

Coming to kn.. I have seen someother way.. Suraj whatever did frm childhood just to gain his attention.. Kn failed terribly as a father.. What he wants is fame and Name..he never cared for his children.. He used Suraj just to make his things work out..

Like Suraj no one deserve father like kn.. I didnt see old episodes.. But after my exams I will finish them.. I watched frm March.. What I understood Is whenever kn scold Suraj he will felt bad..hoe much Suraj is blind in his father love he even did all horrible things just to impress him..

What he did in return? Married ranjana.. And gave importance to vivan.. Seriously if he love Suraj that much he nevr do that.. But always humiliated his mother and him infront of them.. But Suraj Even accepted all these and being good with Vivan

But inside he must be torn that day only when his father marries.. How can child can see his father second marriage even though how much ruthless heartless person it will affect them.. But Suraj blind love masked all kn actions..atlast what he got he ended up in jail because of his father obsessive ness for second wife and new found son

If Suraj did wrong by ditching him in jail.. Yes he did wrong but whatwver happen with him.. He did Wright.. How can he differentiate right and wrong? When his father set a bad examples I'm his life frm childhood.. When he got chance he ditched him.. That's what I see frm his side..

Killing his father.. First kn send goons right? So as a character Suraj takes decisions in rage and he knows he ditched his father he won't let him survive.. With that thought he made an attempt to kill his father.. As we see he just wants his father position and rule aazadgunj..even script is just Most importantly kn killing is because there must be a strong reason kn to fight with Sukor.. Most importantly if sukor verses kn it will be more potential.. Otherwise I don't think Suraj would try to kill his father.. Kn killing Suraj yes he can doit anytime he is such a an ass

Ragini less to talk about her as I don't her equation with Suraj in childhood.. Suraj knows her as his half sister he still accepted her because may be their child hood bond must be strong.. But what I missed to see is same emotions frm ragini side

Whatever emotions see r true..
Suraj for teju,
for Kn
For ragini

But did he get them return? Except frm teju no one have loved him

If we say kn yes he loved him because of his own benefits.. I still can't forgive him for marrying ranjana giving importance to vivan.. That only proves he won't love Suraj

Ya Suraj won't deserve this.. His family torn apart? But what he got all these years.. Let say 28 yrs for Suraj.. Did he really enjoyed his life? Always wanted his parents attention? Did he get that?

Yes Suraj deserve his family.. But Suraj family deserve him?

Definitely he is great son.. Kn is a great father? Ragini deserves to be his sister? Let say if her hatred for teju why to punish Suraj? He always treated her as a sister

Even now only one time Suraj planned to kill his father.. But how many times now kn and his so called sister r trying to kill him

I just want only one thing to say kn, ragini r just name sake relations for Suraj.. They never cared for him loved him by heart

If they did he never tried to kill them because what he craved all these years is their love!!
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Posted: 8 years ago
#43
Coming to chakor.. Chakor another complex girl who pretend to live normal life
Recently saw her insecurities and jealousy.. After all she is human how much she hides from external world she must be broken frm inside!!

As we see her she has loved ones her around not like Suraj.. She had a bad past but different frm Suraj.. Her goals and her dreams r born from kn tortures.. So For her main aim is kn.. Nxt she thinks about her life as a girl

Definitely in present situation she nevr felt emotional for Suraj.. Like his family is breaking.. May be because her hatred ness covers for Kn, teju covers it.. I can't blame her.. One morething until unless we have gone through that pain we fail to recognize it..

Definitely in future Sukor becomes one.. They will definitely share that emotional bonding.. I am sure she gives importance to his relations and his family.. But his family deserve Sukor that's main question

Coming to imli.. I still feel Suraj love is pure guilt.. If Suraj loved her he nevr let go of her.. What happened is imli always gives importance to Suraj suddenly she stopped.. That affected him because he is used for her obsessiveness

Same time he never think about bacha seriously until ragini started bijli drama.. He have that insecurity like how his child hood went wrong.. He don't want his child future will be like that.. So suddenly he realized he is doing wrong.. He claimed he is loving her

Cv's r so lazy.. Such a poor screenplay and script.. All open ends.. Like Suraj affecting for imvaan and imli photos in Suraj jacket.. Seriously he never have that in his mind how come suddenly he realize it? It's just a poor script for me.. Because nothing to think about his love is true.. I can see I love u words frm his mouth but not seen that love in his eyes.. His eyes full of guilty


Chakor also believed imli immediately without second thought.. Because she is preoccupied abt Suraj character.. So he can do that.. But her sis is innocent.. But if anyone knw her sis pregs they will slap her first right? . Even If they r both in love our culture won't accept it.. But chakor accepted so easily and went to kill Suraj.. Why can't she keep in control her sis.. She already saw her obsession for Suraj.. She even know Suraj never loved imli.. But still she is okay with it

When she knows imli pregnant.. No second thought.. She is not even asked why ur in this situation u knw Suraj will nevr love u.. Na they r okay with it?

That's why I hate chakor sometimes.. She wants to see other persons as how she wants.. Like hee dear ones nevr do mistakes that is her biggest hallucination.. Like imvaan do mistakes have reasons..

Then how come Suraj won't have reasons? For his behavior.. After all he is also human

But I think after imvaan end up together... Main reason chakor to comeback she cares For Suraj.. Atleast she knew Suraj is like that because of kn upbringing.. But he is a good person with good heart.. He may not show that to outer world like others he is not a bad person.. She knows it.. Even she told that in one episode because of kn Suraj is like that. Atleast that is good improvement in Sukor


As u say so early to expect her to connect him emotionally.. True whatever situations they end up together.. Now how horrible things r so it will take some time for her to see different Suraj.. Until she loves him completely I don't see her thinking frm his side.. Now she is protecting him but subconsciously somewhere she is used to Live with him.. So it looks like she is protecting him frm kn but somewhere little she care for him
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Posted: 8 years ago
#44
With above situations I shared.. I just want to see happy Suraj.. If he gets happiness and love frm chakor.. I'm ready to accept that relationship whatever the situations
For me life is short.. Whatever Suraj gone through these days enough for him

I want to see him as a changed person not his personality.. I want him to lead a normal life and see the world with different perspective.. If it through chakor eyes ok.. Atleast he will have one person to love him unconditionally!!

After watching all old episodes.. When I came here first my first comment is I want to see smiling Suraj.. Because whatever he gone is too much may be we didn't see that vulnerable side of him... But I'm connected emotionally with him so definitely I want him to be happy.. I may be little selfish here.. But he deserves second chance he deserves all happiness

I don't bother about his family.. Atleast now he has his mother and chakor.. U never know in future his family grows and he will have a family.. If we don't have any other chance better to move on and start a new life.. I truly believe In this.. As I do in my real life.. Otherwise we get only pain

U can ask me as it easy to move on frm parents.. But I am lucky I never faced this situation but we can see some situations in society.. If father do second marriage ditch their first wife children hate their father and move on.. Not so easy at some point they realize he won't come back..

We always discuss about Suraj did this for Kn.. I think we should take this kn second marriage seriously too.. As it is important for Suraj changed behavior.. As we know kn did so many it is one of them.. But they didn't mater to Suraj.. But this second marriage definitely affects children psychologically.. Even parents fights, divorce all will affect them.. So sensitive matters

As a Suraj always craved for his father love so his marraige definitely affects him.. Even not marriage but giving importance to vivan that will affect him.. He is not a child not to notice it
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: _Namita_


@Bold...Claudia, I hope this is brought up. It is a social drama after all. The lesson should be there for people to learn. As long as parents are willing to sell their kids, bandhua system isn't going away.
People like KN will always exist but having the ability to say 'NO' to selling is the key here. I am a mother, and I would rather sell my soul to the devil than let harm come to my child.

I don't understand how parents can do that. Firstly, if conditions are so worse, why the need to have kids. If you can't provide for your children, you don't deserve to be a parent. As all the child will know is pain.

What kind of sadist people want to harm their own children. Sorry, but this is making me so mad. Chakor wouldn't blame her parents but Teju should question them. I said sell your kid and you did?? How could you??


I can totally understand your rage, Namita. You have all my respect that you as a parent reject so vehemently such practices. I am not a mother, but I still can understand your feelings. I was a teacher some time ago and I am planing on going back because I've loved teaching so much. I know what a great responsibility is involved in taking care of children and educating them. I had to look after so many children at the same time and it was not an easy task.

As a teacher I have seen a lot of cases. From overprotecting parents to over neglecting ones. And sadly there are parents in the world who don't realize what an important role they play in their children's life and future. Procreating is an easy process but raising a child is almost an art.

Maybe it comes naturally to me to understand Suraj's character so well due to my experience. One look at him, few dialogues here and there and I have immediately understood what was this child's problem. The same goes for Vivaan, Chakor and Imli but is not their case here. What I have found promising about Suraj was that he had someone in his life whom he loved and feared at the same time. He had his parents to scold him which means that he knew the meaning of a rule and the consequences that fallow from breaking it. Which in other words means that he has certain limits in his behavior and he will not go to the extremes. That's why I had my faith in him. All he needed was an other important figure in his life who will make him change his views about what is right and what is wrong and as we can see is now Chakor. The merits goes to the CV for being such great observers of life.

Suraj was lucky to have parents who looked after him and payed attention to his actions even if his father also taught him to do certain evil things. What is important is that they were there and they didn't let him do whatever was crossing through his mind.
But there are really sad cases out there, Namita, children about whom no one in the family cares. They don't care if they do wrong or right at school. They don't care if they have fought with someone at school. They don't care about their marks. There was no one from the family whom you could have called to come to school for a discussion. They just didn't care.

Coming back to Chakor's parents, I don't know, can someone still be called a parent after selling their child? Haven't they sold also their rights as parents as well? I think they did. More than KN I think it is their fault for what happened to Chakor. Chakor was first of all their child and their responsibility.

They keep going in circles with this bandhua problem. I hope they address it properly once and for all so that people can learn something from it.
Edited by Etna_Dia - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: BreakingBlue

Mother of God.

Hats off to you for taking the time to write this post! This post has literally been more or less of a lifesaver for me, cause the CVs don't particularly seem interested in showing Suraj's POV at all.
It had always been about Chakor, and these past few episodes she's come down from her Jagat Maata role to a normal woman, which is good, cause how long could she have been portrayed as ideal and without flaws?

And Suraj! From the time he was young, to even now, everything he's done has been with the same mentality, for some love from his parents. Even if he was the antagonist after the leap, One can't forget his still on going child mentality of pleasing his parents. And if that reflected anytime, it was when Teju was being tortured by the Trio.

After reading this post, I'm also some what curious whether Suraj would have moved on from things so soon. All his life he's been trying to please his dad, and he couldnt have done a 180 in the snap of a finger.

And again, THANK YOU for this post! Love Love Love! ❤️


I am also curious if Suraj is completely against his father.
If all his life he has searched for his father's affection, such things do not disappear over night just like that.
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Posted: 8 years ago
#47

@ Sriarshi, I've read all of your posts and I enjoy all of them because you always give examples to make a point.

Let's see maybe there is more to the story and that's why Suraj-KN and Imli-Suraj equations were treated so superficially.
Edited by Etna_Dia - 8 years ago

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