Hey Missmarple,
Firstly I would just SAY that 'twas a great post and I completely agree and understand your POV!!
Like some of us on this forum, I am not a regular viewer of any serials - Indian or otherwise. I actually get quite taken with a particular movie/series and I watch it till my fascination with it lasts.
Romances and crime thrillers are my favourites.
I too am not a regular viewers of shows or movies for that matter!! I watch only those that captivate my heart and please my mind. And this is the sole reason why I've got no fav actor/actress till date because I like one in one particular thing and an another in the rest. It all depends on how perfectly or how well can he/she potray the emotions and that's a priority!! To be true, I've never seen Barun's BHPH except for few clippings but I personally feel that he's immensely doing well in IPK than in BHPH(strictly my opinion..no offense!!) This is because I feel that his way of potraying emotions through his eyes, his body language, everything has gone up a natch than previously.
Yo girl, that adds to one more simmilarity b/w us!! I too love Romances and Crime Thrillers and in addition I like RomComs too. And oh yes, I like Castle and Dexter too!!
If I look back at old Hindi serials I think they portrayed the depth of emotions much better. It is not a function of budgets because those serials often had poor production values. It is essentially the detailing and thought that went into them (ex- Kashish with Sudesh Berry and Malavika Tiwari, Farmaan, Tanhaaiyaan - Pakistani drama etc. ) They actually entailed fewer conversations and certainly ess physical bumping as compared to serials today but they were a lot more fulfilling to the romance enthusiast. The characters had depth (perhaps they were based on books and not scripts of dialy soaps). The reason for my rant is that in my latest infatuation with Indian television serials I watched Geet for a few months only to be severely let down later. This serial from the same makers may fare similarly. It is currently engrossing not because of great attention to detail on part of the makers but because it is typically exciting to catch a romance in the making.Yet I can't help but think that there exists the potential to turn out quality dramas with fulfilling
depictions of complex human relationships. What then is stopping production houses? Why is there a need to have a daily serial and that too one that needs to run for ages? Perhaps this format does not give the creative teams the time required to develop well thought through scripts?
I've never seen old Hindi/Pakistani serials so wouldn't comment on it. But having viewed the recent shows of both Indian and Pakistani(Will not include American/British coz that'll entirely be different!!) I feel that the latter ones are better than the former ones!! I feel in Pak dramas, the way they potray the emotions, the way they give depth to a character is all way better than in our desi ones. Might be that's because like you've stated they are based on books and not scripted. I feel Khudha Aur Mohabbat and Dastaan to be more captivating than some of our shows. And that's because if you notice to an extent the emotions are well-described. Personally what I feel and agree to is that emotions are what that make up a man - be it love, hatred, jealousy, possesiveness, anger and even lust!! They are basic things that need to be conveyed in a proper manner and so well that one should feel it's poignance!! And this is what is missing in our daily shows!! These cliched scenes are just to hit the target - TRP!! I might be contradicted and criticised but I feel that more than lovey-dovey, mushy-mushy scenes, the scripters should sketch a character that evokes feelings and emotions not just through convos but through eyes, through silent gestures!! That would bring around a certain kind of aura to the character and gives it a depth. And we parallely would be satisfied!! Agree that once in a while I would surely would love to see the sweet scenes but ultimately I would love to see a fully-fledged character comprising all emotions and passion!!
But the thing is today's TV shows are mainly created for TRP's and this TRP comes from a certain sect of people who have different ideologies contradicting ours but they are the major ones contributing to TRP's. So the makers obviously tend to create shows that appeals them and I've seen most of us who have these similar views are mostly people who watch online and hence we do not contribute to the damn 'TRP's' . So why would they bother to hear us out?!! And one more important thing is these creators are highly intelligent. They know how to attract the ppl in the beggining and lo and behold - we all are definitely hooked to the show. Few months down the lane when they are sure of their sect of ardent viewers they take their course. Some of us like you and me quit watching the show coz we dont find anything substantial and are termed as 'unloyal' and there are a few 'loyal' ones out their either with the hope of seeing a change or are too loyal to complain!! The TRP's are ruining the essence of a show and there's not much we can do about it except that we quietly and gracefully exit once we are bored!!
The potential is there - it is but now a days who cares about potential, who cares about depicting complex relationships and emotions? Very few...a handul of ppl..that's it!! The production houses are just concerned making their moolah's..after all for them it's just an entertainment and it's we who are fools to try to decipher something out of them. But to be equally true, some production
houses are trying ttheir best level to cater to the needs of viewers such as us and one such is IPK!! Till now IPK has been going well, the right amount of suspense, the right amount of emotions in short everything is in proportion! And Barun, Sanya and the supporting
cast are plaing their roles very well quite aptly and till now the cV's have been able to satiate my thirst but I quench for more and hope that the show remains so. Inshaallah if the show sustains and it completely satiates us and I sincerely wish so.
Well said - there's no need for a serial to run ages but the PH's are not concerned!! I like shows that can sustain one long year but potray and depict everything instead of those that drag n drag *yawns*!! Like Vista Di said there are some shows that have potential but by the time they start clicking with the audience/mass, the channel terms them to be less trp-grossers and shuts them off. And those that run on n on for eternity just have cliched stories that momentarily attracts the major sect of people ( I'm not crtiticising those ppl but yeah I do contradict their views..!!)
I think this is a great irony - romance i..e the emotion love is one of the 2 things that supposedly makes the world go around (money being the other); which means that there will be many takers for movies/serials that revolve around this emotiom. YET we have a dearthof satisfying depictions on screen.
I love this point of yours, truly!! It is really ironical that though everything is based on LOVE, none is able to decipher and depict it properly and I guess this dearth will always remain!! I feel Love is the only thing that makes the world around. According to me, Love is the base for all emotions. Anger is due to one's love for being correct and only correct, Jealousy is due to the love for being the one n only and not able to accept the other's superiority!! Even the greatest wars been fought due to the love for power and supremity. And yup, money also does make the world go around!! Aaj kal paisa hi sab kuch hai!!! Love feeling is so simple yet so complex that how many ever movies and shows are based on that, not even one will be able to capture it's essence completely!!
P.S: This is my second post on the forum (my first one was the comparision between P&P and this serial). I did see that but I didn have time to respond to it but I did enjoy reading it :)
My intention behind posting on this forum was to exchange views and discuss/debate with like minded romance buffs! I loved reading such topics!! Not just reading, but discussing and analysing too!! This thing makes me sound like an expierenced 30yr old but I'm just 18 and that's what my friends tease about!! They claim me to be a bit strange!! I hope my this bak-bak doesn't make me sound so *sigh*
*Phew* This has turned out to be a loong post!! And my net is damn annoying, had to re-write everything in Notepad...uff!! But I did so badly want to reply and give in my view that re-writing was no big deal!!
I hope it doesn't annoy you :) I loved reading your POV's and keep'em coming buddy!!
Sia <3
Edited by -sia- - 14 years ago
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