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Posted: 9 years ago
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@Ramya not only you, but I also felt a Malyavan in Lakshman 😃. But the fact you need to see is the way Ram reacted to it. Calmly calling him Lakshman. It was a soft admonish to his brother.
We need to know wherever power is there, there will be people praising it. But what differentiates the good from bad is the way they take it, the way they react to it.
A genuine person will never encourage boasting the way Ram did. Whereas Ravan he just came and over and above what Malyavan told starting doing self praise.
Actually CVs are setting the contrast in everyway between Ram and Ravan so that we viewers feel the difference in every step.
Coming to Shiv Dhanush yes I also agree to you. Purpose of the dhanush is over. And hence destruction. And it also can mean that since Shakti is coming to him, destruction of adharma will happen with she as a means for the same.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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@shruti ... beautiful explanation and felt the same way too...
and an interesting interpretation of breaking of shiv danush


when a reading on pinaka, shiv's danush found an interesting an anlogy of tripurasura ...

briefly the story goes like that that three brothers prayed to lord brahma for immortality .. since brahma says it couldn't be done they ask for three cities build of gold,silver and iron and their end should come only when the city could be shot by a single arrow...the story goes on as they are tempted to leave the bakthi maarg they were used to and started indulging excessively..
Now the gods then went to Shiva and began to pray to him. When Shiva appeared, they told him that "the demons had now become evil and should be destroyed. They had even stopped worshipping Shiva's linga."shiv accepted and destroyed them...

later we see the same case with ravana praying with his brothers to brahma and get the boon..
but now he doesn't leave bakthi ... he takes greatest pride is his bakthi and think his devotion to shiv makes him invincible as he has the cover of bakthi to protect him and can do whatever he please ...so for me raams breaking the bow could also be seen as just being bakth wouldn't make anyone invincible .. the protection would also be broken if misused ...


in essence when we forget the purpose of why certain blessing is given to us and start misusing forgetting the enormous responsibility that come with it ,it becomes the source of destruction too..


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Posted: 9 years ago
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@Shruthi: Yes, CV's nicely show the difference b/w Ram and Ravan but in the long run they should not forget about Laxman. Yes, he was impulsive and blind loving of his brother. He did athma samarpan to Ram but he too know the dharm, guru bhakti etc.
I am not criticizing the CV's but what to send a caution that there is no need to suppress one to highlight the goodness of another.😊
To be frank, I can't see the portrayal of my second favourite like this😆
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Don't worry Ramya. Lakshman will jump in front of Parashuram now. First defeat me before you go to my Bhaiyya😆😆
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Shruthi, very nice post👏👏,
you very talented writer,👏
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Hi Shruthi, a perfect post to say the gist of this Swayamvar. Ram had to be refrained from action as he was not ordered to do that task. he has been loaned to Maharshi Vishwamithra by his father and till he (rishi) returns him to his father Dashrath, Ram had to act only on his Guru or shall I say at the moment, his foster father's instructions. This he had been telling alkshman as and when he was insisting on returning to Ayodhya that since they have come with Guru, unless he orders us to go back, we shall not act or ask his permission in that line. So how will he act on his own when the question is not just a bow but the future of a girl, relationship between 2 countries and the future of 3 more girls in that family. He was not aware of the fact that an invite for him had been sent to Ayodhya and without an invite, how can he take part in the Swayamvar. If there was an invitation and his participation was needed, then his father would have sent in a word in that regard which was missing at the moment. If King Janak had thought him to take part in the contest, atleast he would have indicated this wish to Gutru Vishwamithra and that would have been conveyed to Raghav. But his Guru had only indicated that they are visiting Mithila only to view and bow down to Shiv Dhanusha nd not to string that bow and accept Mithili's hand. So he felt he was not considered as a prospective groom for Janaki and when the bride's father has not considered him as match to his daughter, how can he disregard his (a father's) selection and intrude??? Even after his beloved brother's hurt outburst, he kept quiet and tried quitening Lakshman, but never crossed his boarder line and asked permission. he was confident that if he was to string the bow, then his Guru will order him and bless him to succeed. Without the blessings of his elders, he can't visualize himself taking part in task.
Though he got an order from his Guru to string the bow, he sought a silent permission from Raja Janak and only after obtaining his silent nod, did he lifted his step towards the bow.
Sorry to say this and but when you all saw his assurance to Sita and her happy tears after his victory in romantic mood, I felt that as reassurance from him that don't worry, since my Guru has asked me to silence all those abusers who abused your father, I will do the needful. Don't feel bad for your father that he has to go through this pain for your sake. Hereaftyer, no one will call him a cheater and his daughter an orphan. Be happy as your father's respect will be regained.
Later on his success, Sita felt so greatful to him that he ensured that his father's challenge kept for the Swayamvar was not baseless but his love for his daughter. Pain her family and people (whole of Mithila) felt when none could lift the bow was tremendous and they were bending in that pressure on thinking their princess could not get a suitable match and this will remain as insult to her land. The reason her father gave in fixing the Swayamvar was to get her married so that the way for her sisters marriage is cleared but it looked as if the boulder which completely blocked their chances of marriage as well. Her parents will never get that peaceful mind if she were not married and the word spread around. So when he lifted the bow, for her he looked like a savior who lifted all her burden and eased her and her parents and her state from the humiliation, pain and distress. he looked more like a God than a partner.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: shruthiravi

Don't worry Ramya. Lakshman will jump in front of Parashuram now. First defeat me before you go to my Bhaiyya😆😆

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Posted: 9 years ago
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@Ramya & shruthiravi, Though you found malyavan in Lakshman, that should not affect us as there was clear cut differentiation between the two. Yes both did praise their master & brother but when Malyavan did that, he clearly indicate the rest as spineless or jokers while Lakshman mentioned though he doesn't doesn't know the qualities and strength of the rest of kings present there (since king Janak called them as useless in a polished way as there were none to lift the Sacred bow) he knows the strength of his brother and he being a Raghuvanshi, can't take it if someone under estimate the power of a Raghuvanshi. The anger and hurt which he had at that moment was evident that if not for the presence of Ram & Guru Vishwamithra, he would have marched up to bow and lifted that and proved the Raghuvanshi blood and strength. By God's grace he had 2 elders with him and that he gave the chance to his brother to lift the Dhanush and it had all his love, affection and hope for his brother andf price for his Origin.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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@Jaya: I like this positive angle of Laxman's act.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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@Jaya forgive us mortals 😆😆😆 for taking the romance angle 😆😆. You know right a quite lot of us here are naughty at times doesn't matter we are dealing with a divine love story😆😆😆. But yes I agree to you. His action was for her respect, her father's respect and prove right the word of wise men like Parashuram and Yajyavalkya who asked Janak to arrange such a swayamvar.
If he didn't then dharma would have proven wrong and a man like Ravan would have proven correct. At that point protection of Janak, Janaki and respect of Mithila was equivalent to the protection of dharma. And how can raghav born to protect dharma falter there.

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