Originally posted by: vishmewell
Arree yaar Appu... 😆Opposites attract!!! That's simple Physics yaar... 😆😆😆
Suhana had BF - Ishaan had none; Suhana short tempered - Ishaan cool headed; Suhana childish - Ishaan is matured; Suhana rich - Ishaan middle class; Suhana is pampered - Ishaan is down to earth and adjusting vaigaira vagaira... Aren't they opposites? 😆😆😆 Physics actually works in Love!!! 😆😆😆
Hmm ok 😆!
You are so good in analysing things from science perspective, actually I need your help 😉. You know I have an uncle (my mom's bro) who is a total aethist. He doesnt believe in God, Spirituality, Karma, Rebirth, Mahabharat/Ramayana, Astrology, or anything that doesnt have a proper scientific backing. He only believes in logic, science and maths. All of us are tired trying to convince him but instead he argues so much and silences us, infact just one sentence from his side is enough to silence us 'first you give me a scientific proof, logical evidence or mathematical calculations proving the existence of these, then I will believe you'! Now how is that possible, so he always wins in the argument and he tries to convince us to come out of these false beliefs . None of us have ever been able to support our belief with logic and science, so his stand always wins. But I guess if he was arguing with you, maybe you would have finally convinced him about all these with your logic and scientific explanations 😉. So can you please help me out in expressing these as well in terms of science and logic 😳.
And btw, be careful when you type the spelling of 'vagaira' ok 😆, I was double careful 😆!
Appu here are my answers for your uncle:
1. If he believes that God doesn't exist, he should also believe that electricity doesn't exist. Ask him to show you guys Electricity and then will you show him God.
Nail him down until he answers this Q. 2. First ask him if he believes in actions. Then tell him Karma = Actions (good or bad) and Actions have consequences.
3. Astrology = advanced math. The basis of astrology is Astronomy. It is all about the planetary positions and the calculations are based upon the time each of them take to complete one whole circle around the sun. Each planet maintains its own magnetic field, gases and generate certain energy (which is associated to certain mood of human brain) which impacts the planet earth (coz we dont know about other planets). The impact is measured by the distance from earth. So the astrologers predict moods/events ( more an intelligent guess). This is just a general idea. Astrology is complex . I recommend "Astrology A Cosmic Science" by Isabel M. Hickey
4. There is archeological evidence to prove Ramayan is real. Ask him to either go to NASA website or googleon "Adams Bridge".
There is archeological evidence that the city of Dwarka did exist.
I would suggest that he reads this book "The cradle of Civilization" by Georg Feuerstein, Subhash Kak, David Frawley... that will answer lot of his questions.
Well trust me Vish, we have also tried such similar stuff. We tried asking him to give explanation for similar things (like electricity), but somehow he always finds a way through it with his arguments. U know what he will say to that, he will say 'when an electric wire is connected to a bulb, and when it is switched on, the bulb lights up and when switched off, the bulb goes off, thus we can say electricity is passing through the bulb. The lighting up of bulb proves the existence of electricity!'
And for Karma aspect also I have had arguments with him. He definitly believes in actions, and he is a good human being who tries to be good and do good deeds (so indirectly he believes in good Karma). But that is just bcos he has a good heart. But he doesn't believe in 'good deeds = good consequences', as he always talks about how good people are never rewarded and how bad people always get what they want. He talks about living examples in our family whereby someone would have lived all his life doing selfless deeds for others, but only bad things happened to him and eventually he died a bad death with no one by his side. Similarly, he also talks about a lot of bad people who keep prospering day by day. Then he talks about other unfair things that keep happening in this world on a daily basis. And now if I am trying to convince him this point with the help of 'Reincarnation Theory', since he doesn't believe in that, again that explanation will not be convincing. He will ask me to give scientific evidence for the existence of the process of Reincarnation, which obviously I wouldn't be able to give

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Even regarding Astrology, I had told him the exact same thing, that Astrology is not an irrational thing, but is based on mathematical calculations and study of planets. But again his question is 'Do you have any proof that the movement of some planets in the space can actually bring about changes in a person's life on earth? What a stupid theory is that in the first place? How can the movement of something external to earth actually determine so many aspects of a person's life? You give me scientific evidence for connection between planetary movements and a person's life and then I will believe you'
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Regarding Dwaraka, even if I am able to convince him about the existence of Dwaraka, he will again question me regarding the evidence for the entire story of Ramayana.
Trust me Vish, I know him very well, he is soo smart, he will keep cross questioning me until I am tongue tied
, have been making vain attempts in this direction for a long time now 😆!
Edited by *dewdrop~pearl* - 15 years ago