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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: *Reemz*

I'm not sure if I should be posting here or not but I'll take the risk anyway.

The whole reason for Kusum to fall in love with Saras is not just Saras himself but more so the relationship Saras and Kumud share. It is more of a fascination, just like we see our favourite hero on the big or small screen doing all these heroics for his lady love and wish we had someone like that in our life. The same goes with Kusum. It's a fascination, nothing more than that.

I'm not bothered about 'Sasum' as much because there is nothing there nor will there ever be. It's Kusum and Danny who will get together. She's actually experiencing first hand care and support from DANNY not SARAS. Danny is far more bothered than Saras is about Kusum hence he tries to cheer her up. That's the beginning of love. Saras is in Kumud's world completely.

This isn't directed at anyone in particular but if you're only liking Saras and kusum because you don't like Kumud anymore then it's not really Kusum you're bothered about right? You just want Saras to be with anyone except Kumud.

When I knew that the main love story of the show was never going to be easy, how could I expect the leads to always be fair to each other? You need hurdles, sometimes unfair punishments & treatment but it's meant to be a painful love story.


i agree with ur post as well 😃 see the problem is not that i do not like Kumud .. so if i m writing for Kusum so it is genuine 😃 i also saw the Danny-Kusum angle they r showing & i also agree they wil end up in showing them only .. but nothing of these gives us the right to say Kusum's love as sheer infatuation/fascination .. every Love has its value & beauty .. some may survive & some may not with the course of time & situations.. so no point in degrading her emotions ! 😊
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Posted: 12 years ago
#42

Originally posted by: tryforceful



I meant that she should have controlled from falling for a man who still loves her sister. See my point?😊


With respect to your views...
If we all could control our feelings when it comes to love, I'm sure none of us would be heart broken in love.
I don't think we need to be harsh on kusum, cos what else can accept from a young girl like her when a sexy single guy like Saras is around her 24/7?
She has every right to fall in love with anyone, be it Saras or not. She never interfered Saras and Kumud, so what's wrong?
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Posted: 12 years ago
#43

Originally posted by: *Reemz*

How is it fair to expect Kumud to suddenly start a new life with Saras when she has been through such a torturous marriage? Wouldn't you expect her to be more vulnerable and mentally scarred? She is not in a mentally for state to say yes to him immedietely. Surely people can sympathise with her there?


exactly ppl can sympathize with Kumud .. as she is shown as tortured(for her own mistakes) .. but nobody wants to related with Kusum .. any reason?so to get sympathy u have to get urself tortured deliberately??? what Kusum has done not to get the sympathy?? 😊
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: *Reemz*

I'm not sure if I should be posting here or not but I'll take the risk anyway.

The whole reason for Kusum to fall in love with Saras is not just Saras himself but more so the relationship Saras and Kumud share. It is more of a fascination, just like we see our favourite hero on the big or small screen doing all these heroics for his lady love and wish we had someone like that in our life. The same goes with Kusum. It's a fascination, nothing more than that.

I'm not bothered about 'Sasum' as much because there is nothing there nor will there ever be. It's Kusum and Danny who will get together. She's actually experiencing first hand care and support from DANNY not SARAS. Saras is in Kumud's world completely.

This isn't directed at anyone in particular but if you're only liking Saras and kusum because you don't like Kumud anymore then it's not really Kusum you're bothered about right? You just want Saras to be with anyone except Kumud.

When I knew that the main love story of the show was never going to be easy, how could I expect the leads to always be fair to each other? You need hurdles, sometimes unfair punishments & treatment but it's meant to be a painful love story.


Thanks for your input.

All I really have to say to this is that Saraswatichandra wasn't ever a love story for me. It is more of a journey of self-discovery. Of both Saras and Kumud. So whether it's through the form of Kumud and Pramad or Saras and Kusum, it doesn't matter, as long as the end motive is achieved. And we see them transform (badly once August 23rd hit, I might add) throughout the serial.

Right now, I don't even see anything super significant about Saras and Kusum. It's just the people who are concerned with bashing Saras and Kusum left, right, and centre, and then claiming people who are interested in the potential of this relationship are "negative" or "not real fans" who inspired this post. I mean, does everything have to be pro-SaMud? They're individuality was heavily explored too.

Kumud from the books, Kumud from the film were the best characters ever written. I'd go as far to say that. But Kumud from the serial... No thank you. I don't think it has to do with "I don't like this Kumud, therefore, I shall like Kusum instead because she's all I got." I'm actually interested in the fact that Kusum and Saras undeniably were there for each other in the Dharmadhakari household. The way they worked together, with pariahs as a commonality between them, was so much more realistic than Kumud and Saras' bitter banter where it's always been "I'm going to run after you, or hurt you."

Again, those aren't hurdles. It's just constant back and forth banter romanticized, in my opinion. If Saras and Kumud once were able to understand each other really fully, even for a week of episodes, I'd rethink my stand. but all I see is a shift from "destroyed" to "reliability," pragmatically speaking.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#45

Originally posted by: lakhy

Saras was once engaged to Kumud, and then Kusum was happy for them since she has been a witness for their love journey (from the letter).


Now Kumud got married and divorced ( i donno if legally). It was Kumud's decision to get married but still she enjoyed saras being around her in her sasural ( then and there. wat the..😒)

Now Prammy is out of her life (accepted !!) and now again wat...SAMUD saga...come on ...Why is Saras treated like this...?

Its ok for Kusum to fall in love with saras...he is no longer her brother or jija..moreover she is not seducing her sister's husband..her sister herself doesnt want him..and wat is harm in us expecting SASUM ?

Kumud was in love with saras. ----.married Prammy
Married to prammy ---- still wanted Saras in her sasural
with Prammy around.--.so much naatak with Saras..

now Prammy out...? wat next for Kumud ? ...again love-saga with Saras...

Aren't you tired Kumud...? 😆

if it is so...I wish I can go for another long brk...


hawww i so agree with you DI 😆
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Posted: 12 years ago
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ok seriously leaving now. Cheers, guys! 😎
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Posted: 12 years ago
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But I genuinely don't feel sympathy for Kusum and nor can I term it as true love. Saras hasn't directly done anything for Kusum. He's always done everything and anything for Kumud and her family. It all stems from Kumud and ends at Kumud. He's not going to be ever happy with any other woman no matter how nice and giving she is.

Let's not forget the first 100 episodes of the show where only Kumud pulled Saras out of his depression. She is the reason why he is able to help her now. Did Kusum or anyone else make such efforts? Nope! Only Kumud did. But all that's been forgotten because she too made a mistake (like Saras did of leaving her at the alter) of marrying someone else.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: ...Jes...


which is also ridiculous in real sense .. nothing like soulmate exists .. every other couple quarrels/break each others' heart & so on .. like SaMud also did .. so nothing in this world is perfect but we should respect every thing ,not only the one which appeals us,simple! 😊


YES! I get your point. But the thing is this show is wavering between realism and exaggeration to the point that everything now is a hodgepodge.😆
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Posted: 12 years ago
#49

Originally posted by: *Reemz*

But I genuinely don't feel sympathy for Kusum and nor can I term it as true love. Saras hasn't directly done anything for Kusum. He's always done everything and anything for Kumud and her family. It all stems from Kumud and ends at Kumud. He's not going to be ever happy with any other woman no matter how nice and giving she is.

Let's not forget the first 100 episodes of the show where only Kumud pulled Saras out of his depression. She is the reason why he is able to help her now. Did Kusum or anyone else make such efforts? Nope! Only Kumud did. But all that's been forgotten because she too made a mistake (like Saras did of leaving her at the alter) of marrying someone else.


sorry to disturb you,but i love discussions ! 😳
okay yep i totally agree with you here,even how many times i have went gaga over ur posts on SaMud! 😃 but my that SaMud is lost! .. & this is not the main thing .. well i totally agree that this story has always offered SaMud love .. & their moments & all... & that was not when Kusum fell for him..she fell for him when she saw his unconditional love for her sis .. she never said she wants to marry Saras .. well has she??? i have no prob with SaMud uniting in the end,rather this is the story .. but in all of these if there is someone who can still love Saras with all her heart with no intentions of getting any back .. then what is the objection??? i m not saying Kusum ever did anything for Saras,yet she was there for him in Dharmadhikari house .. she saw his pain & love both .. while Saras never did anything for her .. i m not saying this is meant to be a Saga right now .. but why the innocence of love is mistreated here??? what the prob in being Meera? 😊
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Veera, I think that's where I see it differently. The first promos out clearly said 'Agar yeh aisa/aisi hai toh uski mohabbat kaisi hogi?'.

That was a clear cut indication that this is a love story not a social drama. If SLB and SP took the novel literally then no-one would be able to empathise with that Saras and Kumud in today's times. At core they were far more weak and submissive. They had to make changes, some which we appreciate and some which we don't but it can't all go our way.

I can't respect Kusum's feelings because I just have not felt a connect with them. Whether it's the writing or the actors fault, I don't know but I cannot take that as love. It's an admiration of true love shared between two people who are together despite not being together.

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