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Veera

@SahirsBeard

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Posted: 12 years ago

Disclaimer: This post was written with no intention of hurting any fan group of any actor, fictional character, chai wala, master ji or anything. It is a mere form of expression. Toh agar kissi ko mirchi lagi, it was not my intention, it was your reaction 😳

I don't understand why this forum still has so much aggressiveness when it comes to the jodis of this show. I completely understand that other people have different experiences, different backgrounds, and different interpretations of concepts, and I respect that because I'm not right all the time. I'm human, not a robot. But, why is there always so much divide and random accusation when it comes to a SaSum topic? 🤓

In case nobody's noticed, the critically acclaimed film was designed with Saras and Kusum getting married in the end. Therefore, as a literature student, I think it'd only be rational and logical to assume that the SaSum jodi shares equal importance with the SaMud jodi, now that we've reached a certain point in the plot of the saga. 🤔 So what is this discussion of negativity, I have no idea, because I always learned that plot devices and symbols are not negativity. They hold a meaning that is valid, no matter how tragic or cheerful they may be for interpreters.

So, keeping that in mind, the next rational step would be, "oh, something like this is bound to happen, because it's written right in the Wikipedia article we all researched and discussed about millions of times on this very forum!"

And I'm actually genuinely surprised that's not the case. 😲

If you don't like SaSum, awesome. I respect that. But if I were to give my opinion (and I have in many instances) I'd tell you I absolutely loath what the writers did to the SaMud jodi. They bombed it, they wasted the potential of both of them, and to an extent, even mixed up the actors with the badly written characters and plot for many forum members. 😆

But you don't see me going ahead to every single SaMud topic on this forum and parading that. Why? Because I know the value of respecting people's opinions. Just because you're a SaMud fan, doesn't mean you're not a fan of Saraswatichandra. We're all here for the same reason. So why there is so much hate on SaSum topics, which are RIGHT THERE, by the way, on Dailymotion, YouTube and our television sets is beyond me. 😳

It happened in the film, it's happening on the show. SaSum is equally as important as SaMud, and it's unfair that SaSum topics always get hated on so much. Let's please, for goodness sakes, stop dividing this forum into "them" vs. "us." We're all fans of this show, and SaSum happened in the books. Let's get over our personal egos (look what happened in the show for instance, when certain characters didn't have the capacity to do that) and learn to respect each other's opinions for once. 😊

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TheMogambo

@TheMogambo

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Posted: 12 years ago

👍🏼

Feels so good to be back to forum after a long break and I am glad ur a rockerz Vee..Congo..👏

I haven't watched a few episodes (just for 2 months) 😃 but I can see to what extent the story line has reached and what is going on in the forum..

SAMUD: Of course, was my fav jodi...but now since Kumud is married, it shud be PRAMUD ...rite ? or EX-SAMUD ?

If it was a temporary breakup between kumud and saras...agreed...there can be a chance of them together...but now that Kumud is married and is now making all attempts to settle down 😆I am not interested in SAMUD anymore...

Ex-boyfriend, Ex-saali, Ex-jiju...and as long as Prammy is not Kumud's ex-husband ***officially****...I think we can go for SASUM...

Kusum has all rights to fall in love with Saras...and viceversa..

Kumud should move on with Prammy...and let Saras also to move on...

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believerintruth

@believerintruth

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Posted: 12 years ago

For your kind information , samud was married at the last of the book , in the movie kusum married saras , and from when did sasum become a jodi ???? It is only love from kusum's side, not saras, so i do not think that they can be called as a jodi , plus i think that kusum is having just pure infactuation towards saras , i too rspect the emotions of sasum fans, i do not mean any kind of offence. After all everybody has different opinions and are free to have one.

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Veera

@SahirsBeard

Rocker

Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: believerintruth
For your kind information , samud was married at the last of the book , in the movie kusum married saras , and from when did sasum become a jodi ???? It is only love from kusum's side, not saras, so i do not think that they can be called as a jodi , plus i think that kusum is having just pure infactuation towards saras , i too rspect the emotions of sasum fans, i do not mean any kind of offence. After all everybody has different opinions and are free to have one.

Even the film was made to send a message across to SOCIETY. Although Gandharva Vivah had heavy significance even in the show, it isn't considered socially acceptable, which in the end of the film, stayed true because socially speaking, SaMud could never unite. What does that mean? Society doesn't care about whatever these two may share, it only, realistically, cares about what is socially acceptable. I'm not saying I agree with what society says, because I also believe in love. But whatever Kusum feels, she feels. And I can't weigh that as insignificant for the SaMud jodi. That's like saying Chandramukhi should stay out of Paaro and Devdas' saga... uh no, She was the one who was there for Deva when Paaro couldn't be.

In other shows, there's this concept called shipping. That even if there's a suggestion that two people could get together, you can "ship" them together, or want them together.

Just like some people wanted Kalika and Pramad together, others would like to see Saras and Kusum together... I could ask the same question for Kalika and Pramad, too. What really suggested that what Pramad felt for Kalika was love? Was it one sided? Was it give and take? What was it? People still loved the concept of them coming together, too. So why is this any different?

Infatuation or not, as a character with heavy importance in the novels, it'd be so awesome if there wasn't so much hate for her as there was for Pramad. She's a grey character. Let's stop making this a black and white situation because it's not.

Thanks for your input! 😊

Edited by veera25 - 12 years ago

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Jesmin

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Posted: 12 years ago

i totally agree with ur post! ⭐️ what a great post! 👏
yep why it is not allowed for kusum to fall for a man???he is not her jija atm,he is not married,he is always roaming before her eyes .. then how come she can't fall for a good guy?what is bad here??? if we respect that Kumud being a divorcee has the right to continue her love life(& not to forget before her marriage she had her moment with Saras) .. then why not Kusum?? why diving things here..both r women & have equal right to live & love .. just bcoz she is a parallel lead,so she is not allowed? 🤔

& i also agree Saras doesn't love her..well i m also not saying Saras needs to do that .. but if Kusum silently loves him what is the prob here honestly??she never tried to interfere SaMud,then why ppl r degrading her emotions? 🤢

i myself have been one of the biggest SMud fans but now as story processes if i like SaSum what is the prob here??i m after all a SC fan! 😳

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Veera

@SahirsBeard

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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: ...Jes...
i totally agree with ur post! ⭐️ what a great post! 👏
yep why it is not allowed for kusum to fall for a man???he is not her jija atm,he is not married,he is always roaming before her eyes .. then how come she can't fall for a good guy?what is bad here??? if we respect that Kumud being a divorcee has the right to continue her love life(& not to forget before her marriage she had her moment with Saras) .. then why not Kusum?? why diving things here..both r women & have equal right to live & love .. just bcoz she is a parallel lead,so she is not allowed? 🤔

& i also agree Saras doesn't love her..well i m also not saying Saras needs to do that .. but if Kusum silently loves him what is the prob here honestly??she never tried to interfere SaMud,then why ppl r degrading her emotions? 🤢

i myself have been one of the biggest SMud fans but now as story processes if i like SaSum what is the prob here??i m after all a SC fan! 😳

Jes!! 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 absolutely amazing! Thank you, you wrote more brilliantly than I could have! 😳

yes. Kusum has just as much of a right as Kumud. Nobody's arguing about the whole Danny-Kusum-Kumari thing, so why there's prejudice here is beyond me.

Thank you for your input!

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Veera

@SahirsBeard

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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: lakhy
👍🏼

Feels so good to be back to forum after a long break and I am glad ur a rockerz Vee..Congo..👏

I haven't watched a few episodes (just for 2 months) 😃 but I can see to what extent the story line has reached and what is going on in the forum..

SAMUD: Of course, was my fav jodi...but now since Kumud is married, it shud be PRAMUD ...rite ? or EX-SAMUD ?

If it was a temporary breakup between kumud and saras...agreed...there can be a chance of them together...but now that Kumud is married and is now making all attempts to settle down 😆I am not interested in SAMUD anymore...

Ex-boyfriend, Ex-saali, Ex-jiju...and as long as Prammy is not Kumud's ex-husband...I think we can go for SASUM...

Kusum has all rights to fall in love with Saras...and viceversa..

Kumud should move on with Prammy...and let Saras also to move on...

Lakhy!!! 🤗 thank you very, very, very much!!! 🥺

Honestly, I got the gist of what was happening through maybe a 5 minute browse through the forum every day. Everyone was mad that Kusum discovered she has emotions. 😆

Exactly. SaMud, Ex-SaMud, I'm not even sure, because people believe in it, so it must exist. But if we focus even only on the novels, the fact that SaSum get together there, and are getting closer here means something important. I don't understand why it's called negativity when I say that. Again, people are confusing it for pragmatism 😕

thank you for posting I feel so loved! I missed you here! 🥺

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tryforceful

@tryforceful

Voyager

Posted: 12 years ago

The problem here is that this Saraswatichandra is *NOT* the adaptation from the classic. Not anymore. So, why are the CVs dead set in showing a love triangle when even in the book Kusum was NOT in love/limerence with Saras? Frankly, Shiny Doshi is terrific at playing Kusum terribly. If the CVs want to project her love as devotional reverence, then I bet they are doing an effin' awful job in bringing life to their intentions. And Shiny even worse.

The love between SaMud has been nourished through time and effort by both the parties and Kusum *knows* having witnessed everything first hand. Forming such feelings for an ex-jija is still wrong on so many levels. That's the reason why Sasum is earning all the lampoon.

Vee, my friend, how come you're awake?😆

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Jesmin

@...Jes...

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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: veera25

Jes!! 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 absolutely amazing! Thank you, you wrote more brilliantly than I could have! 😳

yes. Kusum has just as much of a right as Kumud. Nobody's arguing about the whole Danny-Kusum-Kumari thing, so why there's prejudice here is beyond me.

Thank you for your input!

awww thank you hun! 😃😳 & u r welcome 🤗

exactly i m not in favor of degrading anyone.. I also agree that Kumud fianlly spoke up & stood for herself & i m happy for her that she finally showed the courage(though i thought she was strong enough to do it before too,but still ..) .. then Saras saying No to Kumud & then staying in her in-law's house only was right(as he was there to help his love) .. everything is JUSTIFIED when it is about main leads of the show .. but as soon as it comes to Kusum,she is cheap,lusty & so many thing! gosh how come anyone of this genaration say so?i mean what is bad in lust?when Kumud consummate before marrying Saras it was divine & now when Saras is touching Kusum & she is feeling tickled inside..BUT she is not allowed to show any reaction .. this is lust all on a sudden .. i felt really insulting as a women coz this is how a women is being degraded coz her character is not the main lead..??? ... If Kusum is not then how come Kumud is allowed to hug Saras & living under same roof (while in process of divorce) .. this is nto bad at all .. but Kusum is bad! so disheartening it was !

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pasumarthisa

@pasumarthisa

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Posted: 12 years ago

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Veera ji,

I havent read the novel but saw the movie multiple times and the movie was much more closely based on the novel than this show. If you have read the novel, obviously your views might be correct and mine wrong.

So in my POV, Sasum as a jodi was not given any importance in the novel till the end/climax. There is one scene in the beginning where Saras mistakes Kusum for Kumud. In the show the exact opposite was shown.

This scene we are talking about is an attempt and a poor one by makers to 'connect the story to the original. In the original, Kumud gives up her future with Saras in the end even when she has a a slight opportunity to move ahead because of prevailing social structure/customs etc. We are talking about 19th/early 20th century.

I do not want to comment on the scene and like you said there might be people who genuinely liked the scene. And some who like it because of other reasons like lack of so called chemistry between main leads. I think then its chemistry between 'Gautam and Shiny' more than Saras and Kusum. Because Saras thought it was Kumud as a moment ago Kumud was standing there and he didnt lift his head to see who it was.

So, I dont think this so called 'jodi' has to be viewed from a perspective of novel. Saras of this show is very different from the novel. The show hardly resembles the novel at this point of time.

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