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Posted: 12 years ago
#51

Originally posted by: kaadal


Thanks Samarth, I am sure you have translated wonderfully and even if the wordings are not proper o are the king among the ignorant. Beautiful lines indeed, I almost feel maybe the author was one of those writers who compares love and beauty to nature. It felt like hearing Ilayaraja's or RD Burman's lyrics, thanks again.
Reading your "Such kind of impact requires 'two way' call and mutual respects, not one sided 'deferments." , it has changed now, hasn't it. Saras respects and loves Kumud and Kumud the same as well, so using this line here does justice to their love at this stage. I had somehow felt that there was not much left of the novel other than the essence of the characters but if we are getting these dialogues from the original after a love confession I have to say maybe we have even got something of the story's originality getting tried out in this.


Oh Kaadal, if you will see our debate there, you wud understand, then i was referring this 'deferment' as his highhandedness charged with 'you called me'. Plus upcoming, continued condescension based on a false superstition, leading to an upcoming tract which culminated with that arrogant edict " Umid he Jazbato ki…" In original SC was never such arrogant if anything else...
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Posted: 12 years ago
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- I think it was Preity Zinta the actress who had made a very pithy comment that in a relationship between two people, there is always one person among the two who loves the other less than the other. The person who loves less is the dominant person in the relationship because he/she has less to lose. Consequently the person who loves more sacrifices more and is somewhat subservient to the needs of the dominant partner...And this with all factors being equal i.e. you think you love each other the same...more of a subconscious behaviour..



@hotdogg, this line " the person who loves less is the dominant because he/she has less to lose.", if we compare it with the current scenario I will almost say it is Saras who has more to lose when compared to Kumud. He has never had anyone to love him nor had anyone to love, so Kumud should be the centre of his universe. As you say Kumud is definitely the person who has fallen in love with him many times but isn't it because she cared for him from the start, seeing his eyes she wanted to share his pain whereas Saras has fallen in love with her after coming here and knowing her. She has given him a new life and losing her would be the worst that could happen to him. Maybe for now we can say she loves him more, I feel it is only because she is mature in understanding love but I feel it is not still time to say he will be the dominant partner here.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#53

Originally posted by: smrth


Oh Kaadal, if you will see our debate there, you wud understand, then i was referring this 'deferment' as his highhandedness charged with 'you called me'. Plus upcoming, continued condescension based on a false superstition, leading to an upcoming tract which culminated with that arrogant edict " Umid he Jazbato ki'" In original SC was never such arrogant if anything else...


I think the arrogance of the male lead and boldness of female are traits of SLB sprinkled on his character but since you had brought this up I would like to ask you a question. I had asked this to Arshi when we were debating about the license of SLB to deviate from original, was SC a weak character in the novel ? Sending a letter rejecting a girl and then falling in love but rejecting her still for whatever reason it was, still needs a bit of arrogance doesn't it, a normal man for whom emotions and love are important won't do that to a girl he loves so deeply. That makes me curious to know the SC in the novel.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#54

Originally posted by: Infofan


Kusum calling Saras bhai is not enough to allay my apprehensions. In Gujrat, adding a bhai or ben to someone's name is adding a tittle just like Mr or Ms. It does not necessarily mean you consider them bhai or ben. Samarth can explain this better than I can. 😃 😳


Nandy,
Kusum's 'Saras bhai' was more sincere here for 1) Scriptwriter wrote her call the friend "Sunny"😃 sans 'bhai"😉 at the same time…2) She called him "Saras bhai" twice…second time, with added assurance, " Sarasbhai radha se jyada bast kar rage he…agar Kumud didi ne dekh liya to…"
This combined reference is more assuring.😃😆
But you are right in a way…not safe, till she is 'actually paired!😕
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: kaadal


I think the arrogance of the male lead and boldness of female are traits of SLB sprinkled on his character but since you had brought this up I would like to ask you a question. I had asked this to Arshi when we were debating about the license of SLB to deviate from original, was SC a weak character in the novel ? Sending a letter rejecting a girl and then falling in love but rejecting her still for whatever reason it was, still needs a bit of arrogance doesn't it, a normal man for whom emotions and love are important won't do that to a girl he loves so deeply. That makes me curious to know the SC in the novel.

This is a very interesting tweak they have come up solely to make this character look less weak and more palatable. (For opinion/impression about original, you already were there in that thread -CB 13 or 14 may i think- and this is not me only...much of readers in Gujarat i have an impression...)

About the tweak...actually in original, he is unwittingly written 'weak' because of idealism.
In Book, the rejection letter- actually more a withdrawal letter- came AFTER the RN visit. There was NO such rejection before the visit. Rather mutual call letters, first being from Kumud after announcement of the engagement by the elders! Later He disappeared after an altercation with father, despite being abundantly warned by this friend about injustice to Kumud when he saw him preparing to go and was alarmed! He was well aware about the awakened love between these two. But SC persisted...sending her...(a short poem " Priya ramya vibhavari.."🤢)...perhaps I shud not..
but see the effect of tweak here...a rejection before any aroused feelings ( as in this script) takes away much of capriciousness as an irresponsible act which it appears in the book, (where he withdrew after the Love!)...it's going to be a huge manoeuvre for Gumaan, to now reproduce the rejection..i have an uncomfortable feeling...to make him look less capricious, they will pass some of the 'blame' on Kumud- (as that day she was aroused)...Well, in book Kumud had absolutely no say or act in collapse of the betrothal or his flight...
Edited by smrth - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: smrth

This is a very interesting tweak they have come up solely to make this character look less weak and more palatable. (For opinion/impression about original, you already were there in that thread -CB 13 or 14 may i think- and this is not me only'much of readers in Gujarat i have an impression'
About the tweak'actually in original, he is unwittingly written 'weak because of idealism'.
In Book, the rejection letter- actually more a withdrawal letter- came AFTER the RN visit. There was NO such rejection before the visit. Rather mutual call letters, first being from Kumud after announcement of the engagement by the elders! Later He disappeared after an altercation with father, despite being abundantly warned by this friend about injustice to Kumud when he saw him preparing to go and was alarmed! He was well aware about the awakened love between these two. But SC persisted'sending her'(a short poem " Priya ramya vibhavari.."🤢)'i shud not perhaps'
but see the effect of tweak here'A rejection before any aroused feelings ( as in this script) takes away much of capriciousness as an irresponsible act which it appears in the book, (where he withdrew after the Love!)'its going to be a huge manoeuvre for Gumaan, to now reproduce the rejection'i have an uncomfortable feeling'to make him look less capricious, they will pass some of the 'blame' on Kumud- (as that day she was aroused)'Well, in book Kumud had absolutely no say or act in collapse of the betrothal or his flight...

Thanks for that Samarth. Yes I remember you telling about SC in that thread but now getting an idea why he was considered a weakling, seeing he even wrote the rejection letter after RN visit. Well I agree with you here the start has been tweaked nicely to recreate a more bolder character and true Guman has to have a huge game played to reproduce the same type of rejection. Even though it might not be blaming Kumud, but after seeing the last fight between them I somehow feel the way they have stressed on her anger and the importance given to both of their love for their dads might be a weapon used by Guman. So yeah like the novel it might not be entirely Saras fault. I am somehow happy that they tweaked Saras to be bit more appreciable, not sure if we would have liked the original SC.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#57

Originally posted by: kaadal

I am somehow happy that they tweaked Saras to be bit more appreciable, not sure if we would have liked the original SC.



😃 Since we are talking about tweaking to make certain things more appreciable 😃 why stop at Saras' characterization?😳


😃 😃 😃


I forgot I am not supposed to be here😳😳
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Posted: 12 years ago
#58

just noticed...

The 'hes' are tending towards kumud's side and the 'shes' towards saras...should it be the other way around?... or not?...
kidding...😆
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: hotdogg

just noticed...

The 'hes' are tending towards kumud's side and the 'shes' towards saras...should it be the other way around?... or not?...
kidding...😆




Nope, that is how it usually is 😆 we are right on track.
Edited by Infofan - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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arshi, can't wait to see the episode! ur description is killing me! have to wait till my curry chicken is made!

finally watched it! what a lovely episode..full of humor, romance, passion, and khub masti😊! LOVED IT! pl cvz i don't want this to end so soon! pl continue with it for few more months before the separation track! the romance of this show is so unique..has a charm of its own..each scene is so aesthetically done..loving saras ke expressions and samud ki chemistry..its mind blowing! they both left me speechless today!
Edited by mandygill - 12 years ago

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