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Posted: 15 years ago
#41

Originally posted by: suchitra_1



Mahabharat is a very complicated Epic. It's not really truth vs. falsehood rather it has many grey shades.

Yudhishtir , did lie,
He did say ashwathdhama was killed ( and hten he said slowly , the elephant) even though dhron did not hear that part and his rath ( chariot, yudishter's) came down and fell upon the earth like other chariots because it counted as a lie. Before that when ever he travelled his chariot was an inch above the ground.

He was responsible for Dhron's death.

The whole story is mixed with false priorities. And thus even wariors like dhron, kripacharya, bheeshm, and Karn had to face the consequences.

Pandavas were not really the favorites of Krishna, in reality his favorites were all. He loved even shakuni. In one of the versions, when a magical box was bought to Abimanyu's would be ( i forgot her name) she was the daughter of balram, it showed what ones heart desires.

She saw Abimanyu, her mother saw riches, Balram saw dhuryodhan, and Krishan saw shakuni.

In another narration it was said that shakuni had 100 brothers in a previous birth. Whom Dhuryodhan got Killed by putting them in one room wiht no food and water.
Shakuni was one of them.

So he basically took some flesh from all the 100 brothers thighs and made his pasay (dice) and vowed to destroy dhuryoodhan. So when he came back (rebirth concept) he basically avenged by causing destruction of the entire kaurava, the 100 brothers, cuase he lost his.

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About Karma.. well thats Hinduism yes

About Deeds there are other concepts as well: which are prevalent in the Christo-Judaic-Islam traditions


When ever anyone does anything wrong, or good.
He is either rewarded in this life and hereafter

or his good deeds are saved so that he will be rewarded in the hereafter.

So that is why many times we see good people going through many phases of difficulties but yet they are not rewarded because of this concept of hereafter.

Same with wrong,

that when someone does wrong he is either punished here
or his deeds are counted and he gets punished in the hereafter by going to the hellfire.

The concept of accountability is there.. in all religions except there are variations as to how its depicted.



@ red - Are you talking about Mayabazaar movie by any chance? It is a fictional story... not a real story.
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Posted: 15 years ago
#42
yeah vish.. I thought it was real I think I gotten it mistaken but then again I am not sure its purely fictional cause abhimanyu did get married to many and i know he got married to uttara as well
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Posted: 15 years ago
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btw Vish LOL finally I can see eye to eye with post. Thank you for posting! I hope to keep such warm discussions between us specially : ) your
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Posted: 15 years ago
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hai rabba, ithna mahabharath ka gyan tho mujhe nahi hai, but a good sense of right and wrong does not always need to be anchored by religious texts. Atheists can also have a great sense of value as can non-denomination theists. I'm just saying that Bidaai is a story penned by creatives who get paid by the hour and very well understand what panders to viewers sensibilities. I would not attach an iota of gravitas to what is shown every day in the show. Its totally what the creatives thought of that day and does not always have a greater depth of meaning.

Sorry to spoil the flow of discussion, but realize this is entertainment industry and they are very clever at exploiting religious sentiments to their advantage. Other than that, thanks for enlightening me about the nuances of Mahabharath.
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Posted: 15 years ago
#45

Originally posted by: suchitra_1

yeah vish.. I thought it was real I think I gotten it mistaken but then again I am not sure its purely fictional cause abhimanyu did get married to many and i know he got married to uttara as well



Yeah, Mayabazaar is a classical fiction, brilliant creation of Vijaya production, directed by KV Reddy. I feel more than real.. especially Ghatothkach part... that too in the disguise of Sashirekha... 😛

btw, it is released in color recently... my friends loved it. I didn't get to watch as I was on road during the release.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: vishmewell



Yeah, Mayabazaar is a classical fiction, brilliant creation of Vijaya production, directed by KV Reddy. I feel more than real.. especially Ghatothkach part... that too in the disguise of Sashirekha... 😛

btw, it is released in color recently... my friends loved it. I didn't get to watch as I was on road during the release.

I too like Mayabazaar. I have seen it long back.
I remember Ghatothkach's dance.... That was too hilarious. All of us were rolling and laughing in the theatre.
Oh is it released in color? Didnt know this.
Want to show it to my son. I dont know whether he will like or not. These days children dont like our old fantasy and fiction much.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: serialjunkie

hai rabba, ithna mahabharath ka gyan tho mujhe nahi hai, but a good sense of right and wrong does not always need to be anchored by religious texts. Atheists can also have a great sense of value as can non-denomination theists. I'm just saying that Bidaai is a story penned by creatives who get paid by the hour and very well understand what panders to viewers sensibilities. I would not attach an iota of gravitas to what is shown every day in the show. Its totally what the creatives thought of that day and does not always have a greater depth of meaning.

Sorry to spoil the flow of discussion, but realize this is entertainment industry and they are very clever at exploiting religious sentiments to their advantage. Other than that, thanks for enlightening me about the nuances of Mahabharath.



Smriti, who says Hinduism is a religion? It is just way of life. That's it. No religious string attached at all. Religion ka naam sunthe hi main 100 kos door bhagne lagthi hu yaar... I beginning to like Upanishads... coz it is deep rooted philosophy. But I am not an atheist either.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: suchitra_1

btw Vish LOL finally I can see eye to eye with post. Thank you for posting! I hope to keep such warm discussions between us specially : ) your



😊😛😳 Thanks. Will do.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: reguser

I too like Mayabazaar. I have seen it long back.
I remember Ghatothkach's dance.... That was too hilarious. All of us were rolling and laughing in the theatre.
Oh is it released in color? Didnt know this.
Want to show it to my son. I dont know whether he will like or not. These days children dont like our old fantasy and fiction much.



Take my word, your son is gonna love it. Coz my Sunday class students (all between 4-14) loved this movie. They wanted to go to Mayabazaar with me the second time viewing too... 😆😆. But their Manga Aunty was too busy to fulfill their wish 😆
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: vishmewell



Take my word, your son is gonna love it. Coz my Sunday class students (all between 4-14) loved this movie. They wanted to go to Mayabazaar with me the second time viewing too... 😆😆. But their Manga Aunty was too busy to fulfill their wish 😆

Yes, now I have to look for CD ....
Your full name is Mangala is it? Anyhow, I prefer calling Vish only 😆

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