Originally posted by: *dewdrop~pearl*
@ Vishmewell & Omshanthi (wow both of ur names sound so good together đ) : Well guys, I dint have any doubts here, was just clarifying a small aspect of 'when lies or cheating can be justified' through Mahabharata đł.
I am aware of all these stories, its just that I dint elaborate it much in my post as if I would have, it would have been too long a post. I know very well the stories of Abhimanyu and how he was killed in the Chakravyu, how he had heard the stories when he was in his mother's womb, but unfortunately, he dint hear the climax of how to break the Chakravyu, thats how he dies inside it.true, also Dronacharya who was the master planner of this, changed the chakrabyuhu style at the end...it was their game plan which Abhimanyu was not aware of..Abhimanyu was actually "Chandra/Chandmama" who had to come to earth for one sin, again Karma and he was cursed to stay for 12 years on earth. Chandra was born as Abhimanyu, as Subhadra and Arjun;s son, because Subhadr and Arjuns's lovestory also was destined to bring in Abhimnayu aka ChandraI am also aware of Karna's life story, as to how he went to learn these arts lying he was a Brahmin, but the Guru finds out he was a Kshatriya when he potrayed courage of not moving from his place when a bug was biting him badly and the Guru was sleeping on his lap, thats when the Guru realises he is a Kshatriya as only a Kshatriya can demonstrate such courage (btw, even am a Kshatriya đł). You dint mention about the Kavach Kundal of Karan, which was another reason as to why he could be defeated. As long as Karan's Kavach Kundal was a part of his body, nobody would have been able to slay him! So his Kavach Kundal was taken away by Inder so that he can be killed. This was another reason for his defeat.actually, I did not mention about kavach kundal directly, but did mention about how Karan laid down his life for Dharma...that was his way of indirectly contributing to the establishment of DharmaI know that what each person was suffering is a result of his Karma, be it Dhuriyodhan, Bheeshmar, or anyone. You just get what you give. But that was not what I was trying to say here. I was just talking about how even Krishna provoked Arjun to cheat so that he could win the war. But still, in the end everything is justified as the intention of the wrong deed (cheating) was to destroy bad and for overall good to prevail. So similarly, in real life also cant we use that principle as long as our intention and end result is noble.right, Dharma had to be established...remember "Balibadh' of Ram...Bali was wrong, esp, when he captivated Sugriv's wife and held her as his second woman ( a younger brother's wife is equivalent to a daughter)...still in his next birth as Krishna, Ram laid down His life in the hands of Jara (who was Vali reborn")