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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: Omshanti1111

Karma for sure ... but now we are seeing his 'fruit of Karma"😆

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I think during Indu and Andu's track, Bidai's TRP will be very high 😆
God, am imagining "Pa' dance (suggested by Laxmi) of Indu and Andu....
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: reguser

😆
I think during Indu and Andu's track, Bidai's TRP will be very high 😆
God, am imagining "Pa' dance (suggested by Laxmi) of Indu and Andu....

And am still imagining the 'cha cha cha chor....' belt step between Indu & Vasu 😆!
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Btw, Arjun ka kya hua after Mahabharat, the guy who cheated under the guidance of Krishna 😆?!

Edited by *dewdrop~pearl* - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: reguser

😆
I think during Indu and Andu's track, Bidai's TRP will be very high 😆
God, am imagining "Pa' dance (suggested by Laxmi) of Indu and Andu....

actually, it should..because it will have some substance in the story line then...I hope creatives work hard to present it well and not just turn in to a vulgar illegitimacy.
Indu is a decent character, it will be a way to show that how at the spur of a moment, a decent person can also get weak...or at least, why he got weak and seeked shelter in another woman...
today, while reading a post about TRP, I felt the same..that hopefully this coming track of Indu-Andu brings back the concept that storyline and direction are the main things
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: *dewdrop~pearl*

Btw, Arjun ka kya hua after Mahabharat, the guy who cheated under the guidance of Krishna 😆?!

He also went to hell as per the "Mahaprasthan part"...he was proud that he was the best "dhanurdhar"...
Arjun and Krishna are "Nar Narayan' jodi...thats why the "Visaw roop' was shown to Arjun
where u asking this? 😕
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Posted: 15 years ago
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at the end of the day, its ultimately ones intentions (selfish/selfless) + Karma ...because if ones intentions are noble, then after brief suffering also, good days come back...God never does injustice to noble souls...
Edited by Omshanti1111 - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: vishmewell

I would rather not call "HIndu" a religion because it is way of life. HIndu Philosophy is based on Karma theory. Good Karma, Bad Karma. In layman's words, one's rewards in life or sufferings are equal proportions to one's own acts.

One determines their own destiny according to Hindu Philosophy.

Yudhishtir aka Dharma Raj the oldest of Pandavas who is an ICON for truth and dharma fell for the temptation and obsession of gambling and lost his riches, then his army, then his whole kingdom. But that did not even stop him from ending the gambling game until he gambled away his brothers one after the other and at last even Daupadi his crowned queen and wife.

Although Pandavas were chosen to be favorites of Lord Krishna, still were exiled for 13 years. Could Lord Krishna not averted their exile? He could, but would not as Dharam Raj did Sauda of his brother's and wife. Hence, must pay for his actions.

First, Sadhana in Bidaai also has to go into exile for her misjudgment and not testifying in favor of Ranvir because she could not lie. Dharam Raj also faced similar challenge during Kurukshetra war. Lord Krishna himself prompted Dharma Raj to shout a lie "Ashwadhama Athaha, Kunjaraha" the kunjaraha was rather in a low tone to establish dharma. May be not lying for a good cause or dharma is also not good?

Secondly, as Dharam Raj's actions of gambling away his brother's and wife are deemed fit, so is Sadhana's making sauda of marriage is also deemed fit. Hence the burning in fire?

It is only the epic Sita of Ramayan in the human form who remained unharmed by fire!

Thus justice of karma theory always prevails! These aspects of Mahabharat and Ramayan are depicted very well in Bidaai.

Also, beautifully established that a mother is mother. She can never do harm to her own children. Sometimes taking tough stand is a necessary evil as a mother's role.

@Red: Sadhna did no misjudgement. She did the right thing to abide by the rule of law. In a country where hundreds of men are given away by their mother's to protect India and its democracy - civilisation ... Sadhna's sacrifice towards the most precious cornerstone of civilisation and harmony - THE RULE OF LAW - is extraordinary.

It can in now way be equal to Dharma Raj's denial to lie even when Krishna tells him to. In Sadhna's case, it was an EVIL VASUNDHARA AND A VERY DERAILED/CORRUPT LAWYER who told her to lie. Also, a very fragile sister who lost her sense of good and bad.

Krishna, the essense of God, The mirror image of the Lord ... or if you want, may call him the Lord (as although the sun is shown in the most clear mirror, it do not become the sun, still if you point at it and say it is the Sun, you are not wrong. The physical body of Krishna, subjected to dust is not GOD, but the spirit within is the Spirit of God. Same for Jesus, Mohammad, or any other Manifestation of the Devine Reality - the Supreme Creator ... the One Source ... God).

Now, provided the description above...Krishna, the true light, cannot do something which is a BLEMISH. When he asks Dharma Raj to say something, at that instant that WORD becomes the WORD OF GOD (look into Bible or Quran)... and the word of GOD, no matter how opposite to visible things may seem - IS THE SOLE TRUTH. Because immediately, as that word is spoken or the command given ... it BECOMES the greatest and reigining truth. So if Dharma Raj denies this truth, he denies Krishna ... and he welcomes a wrath. However, the patient and forgiving Krishna probably forgive him.

@Blue: I dont think the gambling away his brother and all ever deemed fit anywhere. Why you say such a thing? .. I never heard it was deemed fit. Maybe he was not scholded as an elder (which I dont know), but its not fit. GAMBLING ITSELF IS UNFIT.

Sadhna giving up on Alekh is not selling him (and you have been inciting people by repeating this again and again). Sadhna just gave up on a relationship for something more cemented. This relationship with Alekh seemed to be the core reason of Alekh's unease at that point (no matter what her personally things in hiding). And repeated confirmation of that through Mallika, Vasu and Alekh himself was more than enough. Sadhna saw that it was perhaps just herself, and her fancy. For a fancy you cannot sacrifice such a cemented relationship like Mama-Mami's bond … or Ragini's stable mind (so that she doesn't become mad or smth…as she said she would if she lost).

Sadhna's burning is an Agni Pariksha of an INNOCENT PERSON. Not a punishment. It is a Test (Pariksha) and a very HIGH test (only directed at souls of such high station). Through this test, she came out purer and brighter. Its just that she is so innocent, that through the AGNI her reality (which is as pure as the purest form of Gold) is evident and ever more bright!


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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: Omshanti1111

He also went to hell as per the "Mahaprasthan part"...he was proud that he was the best "dhanurdhar"...

Arjun and Krishna are "Nar Narayan' jodi...thats why the "Visaw roop' was shown to Arjun
where u asking this? 😕

Ya I know Arjun and Krishna are Nar Narayan. As far as Mahabharatha is concerned, I think Arjun got moksha after that, as whatever he did, he did for his Karma. Even the 'cheating' part, he did bcos Krishna himself asked him to do it. So y would he be punished for it when he just obeyed God's command? And he did that to contribute towards the prevalance of overall good, he just blindly followed God's path. Not only that, in Hindu religion, we dont have hell and heaven like many other religions. Our belief is what ever you have to enjoy, or whatever you have to suffer, it can only be done on earth as there is no place which can give pleasure and pain as earth. So even if someone does something wrong, he will just keep taking rebirth till he finishes off his karma. But I dont thik Arjun took any more rebirths after that. So I think he got moksha thereafter.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: vishmewell



Krishna propagates to do what is right without any attachment (mohh) and leave the results to him.

@ vishmewell true
as u mentioned for a gud purpose if sumone lies that is not a sin there are alott of example in mahabharat and Lord Krishna himself propagates arjun for his dharma . we can say mahabharat contains much philosphical material. and we can also say So if Lord Ram was idealistic then Lord Krishna was realistic.
dharma and Karma , if rightly understood and rightly applied, make a person's
life prosper.

good Dharma = good Karma

Edited by sweetkanu - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: *dewdrop~pearl*

Ya I know Arjun and Krishna are Nar Narayan. As far as Mahabharatha is concerned, I think Arjun got moksha after that, as whatever he did, he did for his Karma. Even the 'cheating' part, he did bcos Krishna himself asked him to do it. So y would he be punished for it when he just obeyed God's command? And he did that to contribute towards the prevalance of overall good, he just blindly followed God's path. Not only that, in Hindu religion, we dont have hell and heaven like many other religions. Our belief is what ever you have to enjoy, or whatever you have to suffer, it can only be done on earth as there is no place which can give pleasure and pain as earth. So even if someone does something wrong, he will just keep taking rebirth till he finishes off his karma. But I dont thik Arjun took any more rebirths after that. So I think he got moksha thereafter.



Fantastic Appu. You really understood Karma theory. There's nothing like Hell or Heaven... Everything is right here on earth.

Yes, yo are right. Arjun did not go to hell.. neither did his other brothers.

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