Has A R Rahman become over-confident ?

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Posted: 15 years ago
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After the Commonwealth games theme fiasco, there has been many voices against A R Rahman's composition for the event. Some examples being singer Sukhwinder who says Rahman has become over confident citing an interview where Rahman told that his CWG song would be much better than Shakira's Waka Waka. Sukhwinder also suggested Rahman should have consulted Gulzaar regarding lyrics, should have left singing at budding young singers and should have concentrated on his primary profession (Composing). Louis Banks, another known composer, also voiced his opinion against Rahman, saying that a good composer would require only 10 mins to compose a song, if he becomes truly inspirational of the work that he intends to do. And a composer of the calibre of Rahman took 6 months and 5 crores to compose an uninspirational song that too at an event where India is being showcased on world stage.!!!

I have been a big fan of Rahman right from "Roja till 2008, but I felt his work in Slumdog Millionare was rather ordinary & yet the OSCAR community felt he should be honoured for that movie. (maybe it was Feel good factor for India on international stage when the rest of the world was reeling in an economic crisis). He had much better compositions prior to that in a glorious career stage spanning 17 years till 2008. But his works since Slumdog are steadily going downhill. (Latest being Raavan debacle..).

Is he loosing his charm and passed his peak or has he become over-confident ?

Here is the Sukhwinder Interview Link:
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/music/Rahmans-become-overconfident/articleshow/6484596.cms

and here is what Louis Banks has got to say about Rahman's CWG dismal song:

http://punemirror.in/article/2/201008312010083121154405bc31c467/Kalmadi%E2%80
%99s-got-a-%E2%80%98tune%E2%80%99-problem.html?pageno=2


(Note: Read the 2nd last paragraph of the above news article)


I am in no way degrading Rahman. I have utmost respect of most of his works. But Rahman's hasn't delivered a hit since Delhi 6 which was sometime back. I feel all the higher level of acclamation & attention he has been getting since SLUMDOG has got to him and has affected his performance. I feel Rahman should have followed Sachin (Sachin gets to choose and play only in selected tournaments) in choosing his films so that he can reserve his best without getting monotonous. Just for your info, A.R. Rahman has composed music in a total of 12 Indian movies in 2010 (the highest for one year in his entire illustrious career), which I feel is way too much. Afterall he is not getting any younger and has already passed his peak.

Other examples that I would like to cite are the current careers of Shah Rukh Khan, Aamir Khan & Salman Khan. Some similarities being their huge popularity, cult status among their fans and all are in mid 40's just like their fellow artist and legend Rahman. SRK and Aamir (in lead roles) do like 1 movie a year which turn out to be a big hit because of their sheer dedication & hard work. But Salman does what like half a dozen movies a year, most of them turn out to be box-office flops.My sincere apologies to all the Salman Khan fans, but this is the stark reality. What I want to say is international success and fame seems to have got into Rahman's head and his world-famous humblesness seems to have deserted him. He is intent on cashing on this opportunity by churning more and more averagely composed music and all his charm and talent seems to have got lost in the midst.

One question that I want to pose to all Tendulkar and Rahman's fans in here. If Bharat Ratna award is to be annouced for 2011 and there would be only one candidate for the award, who would you chose? Sachin or Rahman. ???? Yes both are deserving candidates for the prestigious honour and I have utmost confidence that both would get the award at some point in their lifetime? But the question is who would get it the earliest?
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Posted: 15 years ago
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i somewhere agree wid u sheeba!!
Atfirst I like him too...but after getting famous internationally..i think he is not giving good music ...but for his normal composition music also all are praising him too much....
He is a over-confident..for me he is boring!!
(now pls rahman's fans dont attack on us..we r just expressing our views here)
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Posted: 15 years ago
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I don't think he's over-rated, his music is just wonderful. his creations are one-in-a-million..
I guess he's become overconfident seeeing the way he announced that his CWG song was way better than Shakira's waka-waka or whatever..
And on the other hand, everytime we see him in public, he's waaaaayy too modest and simple, he is a man of few-words.. It's kinda hard for me to believe the news.

Sukhwinder also suggested Rahman should have consulted Gulzaar regarding lyrics, should have left singing at budding young singers and should have concentrated on his primary profession (Composing)

Ok, now, I really dunno how the boldened part shows AR's character, it's his wish if he wants to give a chance for the "budding young singers" or "consult Gulzaar for lyrics" .. infact, I don't think Sukhwinder was correct in "suggesting" that AR should have "concentrated on his primary profession" . that's kinda, non of Sukhwinder's business.
I agree with you Sheeba, his work from Roja - 2008 was just GREAT.. great is not the word. But this doesn't make me lose respect towards his music he's been doing since many years. Maybe he did lose respect if I see him as a person he is, but no, I don't think he's over-rated at all..
And, I don't get it. How can you expect a person to be excellent all the time?? Just because his music isn't THAT good anymore, it doesn't mean something's gotten into his head. That's frivolious. People are not the same, they change. And music composing is not someone or anyone could do just like that. Sometimes, there will be dip in yor work, big deal.. 😕
I am appalled by the fact that everyone's pouncing on him for not doing SO good since past 2 years. What about his genius work from the past 2 decades??! 😕 Give the poor guy a break.
PS : The other music directors, singers, actors, public figures are reacting way too much.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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I dont think A.R Rahman is overrated. He is a genius, musical maestro in his own term. I can't forget the haunting tunes of Roja, Bombay, Dil Se, Taal and recently Delhi 6. There are some songs which only ARR can compose like Khwaja mere Khwaja, Haji Ali, Luka chuppi, Ore chori and many others...

But, yes, some of his compositions are really overrated the greatest example being Jai Ho. It's utterly ridiculous for the OSCAR committee to give away OSCAR for that song. ARR should have own OSCAR for some other movie not for SM at all..And also, recently I'm not too impressed with his work. Blue, Ravan are pretty substandard compared to what ARR is capable of. I think he needs to concentrate on quality product. Fame and success will automatically follow..

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Posted: 15 years ago
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I am a mere creature to express sumwords in this regard...😳
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Yes, Slumdog Millionaire songs are nothing compared to Roja, Bambay and almost every other composition by him. But it was the Oscars who awarded him for Jai Ho. They obviously never heard "Yeh Haseen Wadiyan" or every other creation of his. 😆
Plus, how in the world could the Oscar's jury listen to his compositions? None of the movies he worked for got an international acclaim. 🤔
I just wish his compositions were recognised internationallly, he would have been flooded with awards and he'd be God to many seeing how they went crazy over his average composition like Slumdog Millionaire. Ok, maybe not crazy, but they still felt he deserved an Oscar. 😛
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: Angel-likeDevil

And, I don't get it. How can you expect a person to be excellent all the time?? Just because his music isn't THAT good anymore, it doesn't mean something's gotten into his head. That's frivolious. People are not the same, they change. And music composing is not someone or anyone could do just like that. Sometimes, there will be dip in yor work, big deal.. 😕
I am appalled by the fact that everyone's pouncing on him for not doing SO good since past 2 years. What about his genius work from the past 2 decades??! 😕 Give the poor guy a break.
PS : The other music directors, singers, actors, public figures are reacting way too much.



Just an personal example that I am citing in here to prove my point. I feel A.R.Rahman & Sachin Tendulkar, eventhough being in different professions have a lot in common, both began to perform at an young age, world-class artists, crowd pullers, talented, & the list goes on. But the one point that separates the two is a relative but small difference in the level of consistency. As die-hard fans, we have great respect for them and expect an amazing level of consistency from the deadly duo.

Yes, both are highly consistent but when it comes to choosing between the two, Sachin peaks ahead. Have we seen Sachin underperforming for 3 straight years, like what Rahman has been having now??? Yes Sachin did have 1 or 2 bad years, but never did an year go by when Sachin had not scored a ton, however disappointing the year may have been. Rahman has been delivering mediocre and dull music continuously for the past 3 years.


SLUMDOG may be his only saving grace but I feel that he never deserved the OSCAR for that movie. I presume HOLLYWOOD never made an attempt to listen to any of Rahman's melodious works prior to that.The WEST & the OSCAR community only felt that it was high time to honour a talent from INDIA as a feel good gesture as INDIA WAS SHINING When the REST OF THE WORLD was reeling in a GLOBAL Economic Crisis.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: sheeba2010




Just an personal example that I am citing in here to prove my point. I feel A.R.Rahaman & Sachin Tendulkar, eventhough being in different professions have a lot in common, both began to perform at an young age, world-class artists, crowd pullers, talented, & the list goes on. But the one point that separates the two is the relative but small difference level of consistency. As die-hard fans, we have great respect for them and expect an amazing level of consistency from the deadly duo. Yes, both are highly consistent but when it comes to choosing between the two, Sachin peaks ahead. Have we seen Sachin underperforming for 3 straight years, like what Rahman has been having now??? Yes Sachin did have 1 or 2 bad years, but never did an year go by when Sachin had not scored a ton, however disappointing the year may have been. Rahman has been delivering mediocre and dull music continuously for the past 3 years. SLUMDOG may be his only saving grace but I feel that he never deserved the OSCAR for that movie. I presume HOLLYWOOD never made an attempt to listen to any of Rahman's melodious works prior to that.The WEST & the OSCAR community only felt that it was high time to honour a talent from INDIA as a feel good gesture as INDIA WAS SHINING When the REST OF THE WORLD was reeling in a GLOBAL Economic Crisis.

I never followed cricket so I'm not aware of how Sachin performed..
Next, how can you compare both of them?? Do you know what composing music is?? It doesn't come by learning, composing a piece of music is inborn and is gifted to a few people. Compose a piece of music which isn't ripped off. It doesn't come from thin air. It's not cricket where all you need is concentration and a lott of practise.
What consistency are you talking about, Sheeba?? AR has been consistent since the past 20 years, is there ANY music composer who did WONDERS for 20 long years?! I don't think so..
And yes, Slumdog Millionaire music wasn't good, but the Oscars gave it an award. And besides, a movie needs to be internationally released to go to the Oscars as far as I know. I suggest you to refer to a site which lets you know how the jury of Oscar works..
@bold -- So, why blame AR for that?? According to you, it's the Oscar's jury who "felt it was hight time to..." so, go ahead and blame the Oscar jury and not AR.. Confused And where did GLOBAL economic crisis come from.. Geez, they were just awards.. 😆
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: sheeba2010




Rahman has been delivering mediocre and dull music continuously for the past 3 years.

Hey did u forget Delhi 6? Confused That's world class.
I haven't got over Rehna Tu till date
I dont mind if he comes only once in a 2 years but with such a unforgettable album.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: Rimpa.

Hey did u forget Delhi 6? Confused That's world class.
I haven't got over Rehna Tu till date
I dont mind if he comes only once in a 2 years but with such a unforgettable album.

What about the 18 years when he did wonders?
Some people should learn to give others a break rather than keep bashing him for nothing. Confused Is there any music composer who did genius work like AR for 20 years?? Even if there was a music composer who did wonderful music, that would be for a short period. Not for 20 years??! 🤔

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