RangRasiya Creativity missing a Woman's touch

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Posted: 11 years ago

#131

Originally posted by: serialjunkie

now thats a PPP worthy line, can I use that? ofc, you will be credited 👏

But of course. No need to pooch pooch! 😉

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JuhiR

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Posted: 11 years ago

#132

Originally posted by: Jaz1990

I think on another post you wrote sanaya is carrying the show on her shoulder ? I would like to disagree on that, cause I think Ashish is doing a equally brilliant job.

Ashish - I have not seen him earlier, he must be a good actor, but in RR I just don't see any other emotion on his face except 'gussa' and 'frown' from day one. The way this show started, I thought his character will have many more shades, but so far it has not come across. But I dont fault him, I just think it is poor script, poor characterization, and poor direction by CVs.

Sanaya's character is also poorly developed; quite inconsistent, but she at least showed love. smile, innocence, anger, hatred everything. So for me her character is a little bit more watchable than the 'gussawala' expression of a angry young man all the time.

It is my point of view, and of course you are entitled to disagree.

Edited by JuhiRockz - 11 years ago

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Smriti

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Posted: 11 years ago

#133

Originally posted by: -Sush-

HI SJ...regarding what she wants...she believes they are soul mates ...so she wants them to be together as husband and wife...So, you see it is not a question of which part...forgiveness or affection...It is not either ...or...It is the whole...BOTH...and more...

Her character does not represent a typical woman from a village...of course they may know about religion but they don't have such conviction...which is what sets her apart...She is not fearful because she is convinced she will win...isn't that how winners think? Failure is not an option...soldiers don't think about losing either...it's the attitude...They go with the conviction that they will win...

She does not feel offended because she knows the person offending her does not know any better...she does actually tell him that he is reacting this way because he has never known love and has never been loved...she does not see herself as a victim...SJ...who has no choice...In fact quite the opposite...she takes it as a challenge...to do something extraordinary, unconventional...beyond what he could imagine...to prove how strongly she feels about them being soul mates...It is somewhat similar to some other story where a man does the extraordinary to prove his love...to the woman...It is just that the roles are reversed in this serial...and it is unconventional...

I agree that the serial had an issue before with the captor captive story...not allowing Paros character to be built...and they did ignore showing her feelings in depth for some period of time...but not any more...she has good amount of monologues and dialogues where she puts her point forward ...

Thats how I see it...Now do I want Rudy to EAT his words? Of course I do...but the problem in behavior is from his side...not hers...

I see your pov and agree about Paro's conviction - its a recent development, no more than 3 to 4 episodes old. Lets hope they continue developing that aspect without losing the thread of thought inside Paro's mind. Lets hope they can sustain that momentum.

Bringing the discussion back to needing a woman's touch - it would be a fun exercise to ask a few women if they have felt this sort of conviction and have really acted out the way Paro does, in order to get a man they believe to be their soulmate. Can this happen in real life?

Now, many would be tempted to tell me that this is fiction, don't expect life like emotions. If we brush off Paro's actions as fictional, then it ends the discussion of possibilities and alternatives that bear resemblance to reality, because in fiction Paro is reincarnation of Parvati, KcM can turn out to be cyclops and Rudra, cyborg and there is no need for India Forums because we should all be able to accept anything, even a UFO landing in RR.

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Smriti

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Posted: 11 years ago

#134

Dear participants

It was a great exercise in some fun, some analysis and some killing of time. Another day awaits all of us with new possibilities and new stories to tell.

I am glad you participated with reasoned posts, without getting personal or rude. It speaks volumes about the collective decency of the participants.

Please continue the discussions, and I will continue to read when time permits but I have to attend to a bhookha nanga family that has been reduced to sending SOS to outer space for help.

Thanks again for a fine discussion thread, I enjoyed it a lot and learned many different views from you.

Edited by serialjunkie - 11 years ago

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haminasto

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Posted: 11 years ago

#135

oh i saw the promo of this never before track known as hate marriage...n n theres a havan kund which seemed to be a big mortar and pestle and maybe the sindoor is KCM's special degi mirch powder...so heres the WOMAN touch...chutki bhar mirch powder ki kimat...

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kuchnaakahoo

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Posted: 11 years ago

#136

Originally posted by: savvy05
This has gotta to be the most balanced and civil discussion on RR with different views co-existing under one thread.👏 Just when I was about to give up on the the forum for having low tolerance levels on differing opinions, kudos SJ for starting this conversation with the right tone.⭐️⭐️

Thanks for bringing up the point tht indeed this forum doesnt welcome different and contradictory point of views very easily, i was reprimanded for pointing out the similar thing yesterday,,😆 wonder will you be targeted for saying this or not...

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-Sush-

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Posted: 11 years ago

#137

Originally posted by: serialjunkie

I see your pov and agree about Paro's conviction - its a recent development, no more than 3 to 4 episodes old. Lets hope they continue developing that aspect without losing the thread of thought inside Paro's mind. Lets hope they can sustain that momentum.

Bringing the discussion back to needing a woman's touch - it would be a fun exercise to ask a few women if they have felt this sort of conviction and have really acted out the way Paro does, in order to get a man they believe to be their soulmate. Can this happen in real life?

Now, many would be tempted to tell me that this is fiction, don't expect life like emotions. If we brush off Paro's actions as fictional, then it ends the discussion of possibilities and alternatives that bear resemblance to reality, because in fiction Paro is reincarnation of Parvati, KcM can turn out to be cyclops and Rudra, cyborg and there is no need for India Forums because we should all be able to accept anything, even a UFO landing in RR.

This is an extreme couple ...with he having no faith in relationships/ love/ soul mates etc ...and she with all the faith and conviction...In real life ...I think both parties in a couple are more in the middle...I can say with my own experience...when I decided who I would marry...I did things that I had never planned...like leaving the country, going abroad, and eventually bringing my family around to accept the interfaith marriage...all that required a degree of conviction ...but at least I wasn't alone in my journey...

In any case...it was good talking to you SJ...Love your PPP posts...hope you will keep finding the show interesting enough to keep posting!!

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CravingKhana

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Posted: 11 years ago

#138

SJ darling blame the flu ..i still cannot make sense of what i want to say ...

anyways i agree to a women's touch in how one would write a scene ...esp the romance

of late they seem so contrived ...its a eye roll after eye roll...

the scene yesterday for example

the dori (tho i will never get the keemat of ek dori) ...was so far contrived and made no sense and no sexual tension even the way they played it ...

and then u said how u would have done it ...

have her hide her back in the first place and him insult her for showing her face almost forcing her to turn around and realize the faux pas ...now tho i am still not getting the impropriety of the whole string significance i like this a whole lot better ...and the drama value would have upped itself...

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tttttt1

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Posted: 11 years ago

#139

Originally posted by: serialjunkie

I see your pov and agree about Paro's conviction - its a recent development, no more than 3 to 4 episodes old. Lets hope they continue developing that aspect without losing the thread of thought inside Paro's mind. Lets hope they can sustain that momentum.

Bringing the discussion back to needing a woman's touch - it would be a fun exercise to ask a few women if they have felt this sort of conviction and have really acted out the way Paro does, in order to get a man they believe to be their soulmate. Can this happen in real life?

Now, many would be tempted to tell me that this is fiction, don't expect life like emotions. If we brush off Paro's actions as fictional, then it ends the discussion of possibilities and alternatives that bear resemblance to reality, because in fiction Paro is reincarnation of Parvati, KcM can turn out to be cyclops and Rudra, cyborg and there is no need for India Forums because we should all be able to accept anything, even a UFO landing in RR.

@sush

hey

@ bold blue how did she figure out they are soul mates ,and such concrete faith that she is not hurt or as many feel doesnt feel about self respect

because that source or reasoning is missing we think it is like sati pursuing shiv , easy to reason for the cvs and it is put that way

i think what the cvs are doing is , they want to proceed to the marriage track , and dont want to waste time in explaining or developing character , so draw similarities with shiv -parvati

it is like making us understand when given an example , easier isnt it ?

standing on one foot , it is a very stong way of saying like parvati pursued shiv , so that we understand they are going shiv parvati route and relate , no other reasoning

okay ...the faith is like sati or savitri or some mythological character , even it is like that they should do it well even that is rushed

the story of pavati and shiv ji or any mythological character it never happened this way

sati was in denial about her feeling for shiv for a very long period , that made the story believable

here after the takur episode she suddenly realizes rudra is her man after that doll is found

they are drawing similarities and try to reason action taken example of shiv and parvati to show rudra and paro are meant to be together like shiv and parvati is , so parvati undergoing all this torture is fine

this is a way of story telling

but my issue is when they want to draw comparison with shiv parvati story here , they should not mock it

@smriti

she is not us , she is different from us, hmmm

but i understand when i read a story about a superman , or animated characters or a mythological story where it is gods and goddess , they are not like me nor are their priorities

if we only understand ourselves and our small world ,it is a dangerous world

the problem i see is there are projected a normal girl as "parvati " to reason all what is going on with her , and get her married

they havnt decided whether she is to be made as real or surreal

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Smriti

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Posted: 11 years ago

#140

Originally posted by: -Sush-

This is an extreme couple ...with he having no faith in relationships/ love/ soul mates etc ...and she with all the faith and conviction...In real life ...I think both parties in a couple are more in the middle...I can say with my own experience...when I decided who I would marry...I did things that I had never planned...like leaving the country, going abroad, and eventually bringing my family around to accept the interfaith marriage...all that required a degree of conviction ...but at least I wasn't alone in my journey...

In any case...it was good talking to you SJ...Love your PPP posts...hope you will keep finding the show interesting enough to keep posting!!

the big difference though is in your case, your feelings were reciprocated by your spouse and you were in it together, you were in a mutually agreeable, loving relationship (my assumption given its interfaith marriage). In case of Paro, Rudra does not reciprocate her feelings, not yet anyway. You can fight the world for your love, but i don't know if you can fight the world, and fight the love for whom you are fighting the world, so you can marry the love.

thankfully, Paro does not have to worry about earning her keep, paying her bills, or taking care of any dependent relatives. she is free from those bonds that define our daily existence, therefore, she is free to pursue her conviction of love, with a single minded, and single footed purpose.

thanks for reading PPPs, I enjoy doing them more than analysis. I think this will be my last analysis for this quarter 😃, which will end in june.

Edited by serialjunkie - 11 years ago