Just for you...MR. AKHL!! - Page 6

Originally posted by: ~angelz16~

From Bhagvad ji, what Rishi Ved Vyas is saying.......

Both the Vedanta Sutras and the Srimad-Bhagavatam begin from the point of understanding the ultimate source of everything. Sri Vyasa Muni, the author of these two texts, begins both with the same verse: janmady asya yatah, "From whom everything emanates." But in the Srimad Bhagavatam he expands and elaborates on this very important philosophical subject in great detail:

janmady asya yatah anvayad itaratas carthesv abhijnah svarat
tene brahma hrda ya adi-kavaye muhyanti yat surayah
tejo-vari-mrdam yatha vinimayo yatra tri-sargo 'mrsa
dhamna svena sada nirasta-kuhakam satyam param dhimahi

"I meditate upon Lord Sri Krishna because He is the Absolute Truth and the primeval cause of all causes of creation, sustenance and destruction on the manifested universes. He is directly and indirectly conscious of all manifestations and He is independent because there is no other cause beyond Him. It is He only who first imparted the Vedic knowledge unto the heart of Brahmaji, the original living being. By Him even the great sages and demigods are placed into illusion, as one is bewildered by the illusory representations of water seen in fire, or land seen on water. Only because of Him do the material universes, temporarily manifested by the reactions of the three modes of nature, appear factual, although they are unreal. I therefore meditate upon Him, Lord Sri Krishna, who is eternally existent in the transcendental abode, which is forever free from the illusory representations of the material world. I meditate upon Him, for He is the Absolute Truth."

Thus Srimad-Bhagavatam is the key to unlock the secrets of the Vedanta Sutras. There is no literature in the world as great as this Srimad Bhagavata Purana. The transcendental narrations within it give us light in this dark age of Kali yuga:

krishne sva-dhamopagate
dharma-jnanadibhih saha
kalau nashta-drisham esha
puranarko 'dhunoditah

The Bhagavata Purana is as brilliant as the sun, and it has arisen just after the departure of Lord Krishna to His own abode, accompanied by religion, knowledge, etc. Persons who have lost their vision due to the dense darkness of ignorance in the age of Kali shall get light from this Purana.

Originally posted by: ~angelz16~

And Akhl, if you hve post 10 things then out of the 10, then like your telling me that these verse do not say that Krishna is Vishnu is below Krishna then I would not like but love to tell you that 8 of the 10 things you told also only tell that Vishnu is supreme and not that Krishna is below Vishnu. Got that?

Originally posted by: akhl

Are you not able to find the following verse in Bhagavatam?

hahaha!! You're telling me? It was you who wrote 58 shlok, didnt you? And thats y I didnt hve to write thats its shlok 59 and not 58. So you double watch, ok?

dvujAtmajA me yuvayor didrksunA mayopanItA bhuvi dharma guptye

kalAvatIrn?Av avaner bharAsurAn

hatveha bhUyas tvarayetam anti me

Meaning - I brought the brahmin's sons here because I wanted to see the two of you, My kalas, who have descended to the earth to save the principles of religion. As soon as you finish killing the demons who burden the earth, quickly come back here to Me.

Note the words "My kalas".

And thats exactly wat I am saying that if 10 verses say wat you say then 20/25 say wat I am saying. If we talk like Acharayas and pardon I dont mean those of todays, lol but like Acharaya Adi Shankar then we are hving a Shastrarth and the one with more valid points is considered more right. Its not like the one with less points is incorrect but not only here but it applies in every field that those subjects with more points and are taken as more literal and more uppermost facts. Thats all that even I hve been trying to say.

If we both stop arguing then I can further tell Akhl the cause of incarnation of Lord Krishna from Vishnu. If you want that is. As I hve been saying all along about Kalp-bhed and Kalp-antra.

Originally posted by: ~angelz16~

I am not able to get you clearly. Pls help by being a lil more specific 😊

Originally posted by: ~angelz16~

I dont know who you are but wat you are saying to me can be applied to Akhl as well ok? How are my points useless? What is being said to me can be told to Akhl also! I dont think it applies to only me. Just because ppl know Akhl here doesnt mean they hve to tell everything to me.

And excuse me, I am not negating but merly writing what is stated in the scriptures and if someone thinks opposite to that and is writing, then why shouldnt I?

Also, I know who you are talking about but not Nirguna Brahmam but Nirakar Brahma and it was Shukdeva ji Maharaj who was once doing upasana of a Nirakar Brahma and thats wen disciples of Rishi Ved-Vyas who were in the same forest used to get scared and Ved Vyas gave them for shloks, 2 from Bhagvad ji and 2 from elsewhere and asked them to chant it and then their fear will go away. When they went back and chanted, Shukdev ji got the picture of Sakar Brahma in his thought and saw that hes so beautiful and stopped worshipping Nirakar Brahma and instead worshipped Sakar Brahma. And that is all. Its a lonnggg story cut short. lol!