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loveanime

@loveanime

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Posted: 16 years ago

#31

This is news to me. I have never heard this before.

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rupali pandey

@rupalip

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Posted: 16 years ago

#32

Thanks Angel...
I also read many related books
and sharing thots and views from diff books
is always good for us and for others ...
U r most welcome ....
Keep POsting what u read in different books and all knowledge
we yet are not aware of...

Even after reading abt Krishna is supreme ,...
I was shocked
then I take all as GOD work and
ALL is one in different forms
so whats harm in reading who is supreme

They are GOD not human beings like us
so why to make differences in them ...
I always love to read such topics
though I sometimes dont participate
bt I do read always..

U r most welcome and we all waiting to gain more knowledge from you...

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rupali pandey

@rupalip

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Posted: 16 years ago

#33

Originally posted by: loveanime
This is news to me. I have never heard this before.

Yes
That what I want to say ..
I was discussing all this with samiksha some days back ...
so its good getting more info in detail ....
All these infos never harm us ...

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akhl

@akhl

Dazzler

Posted: 16 years ago

#34

Srimad Bhagavatam 10.89.58 says:-

dvijAtmajA me yuvayor didrksunA

mayopanItA bhuvu dgarna guptaye

kalAvatIrn?Av avaner bharAsurAn

hatveha bhUyas tvarayetam anti me

In this shloka, Maha Vishnu says to Krishn and Arjun, "I brought the brahmin's sons here because I wanted to see the two of you - My kalas, who have descended on Earth to save the principles of religion. As soon as you finish killing the demons who burden the earth, quickly come back here to Me.

In this verse, Vishnu calls Krishna as his (i.e. Vishnu's) kala.

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246851

Hibernated

Posted: 16 years ago

#35

Originally posted by: desichica
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Ananya....i dont think u read carefully wut i wrote....and i wasn't pointing at u as the supporter...it was Tan...Tan basically jumped the gun on me saying to not start a fight, which i have not...and if i did...i'm pretty sure that akhl or yummy's wud have given me a warning if i did do nething wrong!!!!!

I basically said u did not agree or disagree with "Angelz" topic....i never once said u were the supporter...the post before my quote which u responded to was with "Angelz" post stating that she had you and Tan as supporters...I know i saw Tan as her supporter...but not you!!!! I thought u knew me better than that ananya....guess not!!!

Neways i can already tell there will be drama to this forum...i'm just gonna keep my distance thats all!!!

holy cow! when did i support angelz? i just thanked her for sharing a new info. why do people twist things like dat here?

yes i thanked her info, part of which i myself read, but did u miss my line where i said she should respect everybody's belief and her tone should be milder?

all i told u was step aside and let akhl deal with whole thing, that way things donot get complicated. and i told u not to start fight, i didnt tell u that u have started a fight. u are , as u said a vital and responsible member of this forum and i know you more than i know this new comer, so def i would ask you to be neutral and not her.

still i plead to all members of the forum to let akhl and yummys to deal wid this.

may be i should not participate in any discussions like i usually do nowadays, seeing it only leads to misunderstanding!

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anku-

@anku-

Stunner

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Posted: 16 years ago

#36

Originally posted by: Chandraketu
Vishnu an aspect of Krishna? Next we'll be hearing that Shiva is a manifestation of Hanuman!

See guys? What I stated is being called as a drama and a sarcasm comment coming back. Like a rude comment. LOL!! Dude, maybe you dont read scriptures. I do. Therefore before writing all this, just go and read the scriptures from which I have written detailed information. There is no harm in gaining new information ok? And what I have stated is right! So if you dont know, then learn rather than making fun of such information.

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anku-

@anku-

Stunner

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Posted: 16 years ago

#37

Originally posted by: rupalip
Thanks Angel...
I also read many related books
and sharing thots and views from diff books
is always good for us and for others ...
U r most welcome ....
Keep POsting what u read in different books and all knowledge
we yet are not aware of...

Even after reading abt Krishna is supreme ,...
I was shocked
then I take all as GOD work and
ALL is one in different forms
so whats harm in reading who is supreme

They are GOD not human beings like us
so why to make differences in them ...
I always love to read such topics
though I sometimes dont participate
bt I do read always..

U r most welcome and we all waiting to gain more knowledge from you...

Thanks Rupali :) tis a pleasure to see positive replies as well :)

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anku-

@anku-

Stunner

+ 4

Posted: 16 years ago

#38

Originally posted by: akhl
Brahma Samhita is considered authentic by very few groups (e.g. Gaudiya sampradaya)
Vedas are the most authentic scriptures of Hinduism. They are apaurusheya. Let me quote some verses from Vedas.

tad vishnoh paramam padam sadaa pashyanti soorayah
divIva chaxuraatatam (Rig Veda 1.22.20)

tad vipraaso vipanyavo jaagrvaamsah samindhate
vishnoryat paramam padam (RV 1.22.21)

taa vam vaastoonyushmasi gamadhyai yatra gaavo bhoorishrngaaayaasah
atraaha tadurugaayasya vrshnah paramam padamava bhaati bhoori (Rig Veda 1.154.6)

The above verses talk about Supreme station of Vishnu.

And who gave you the right to say it is considered authentic by very few groups? How can you prove that? Just because it is so opposite what you say, its not considered authentic. Its just these things of yours Mr. Akhl which make me feel so irritated towards you. Arent authentic! Poof!! You talk what you know ok? You dont judge that these are considered this and that! I dont think you are anyone to say that. Or you bring those ppl who say that.

Well, you didnt give the meaning of those verses and cleverly stated they talk about the supreme STATION of Lord Vishnu. And this is not from Rig Veda but Rig Veda Samhita.

As far as Vedas go, firstly, your shloks talk about Vaikunt Lok and not Lord Vishnu as the god personality.

tad vishnoh paramam padam sadaa pashyanti suurayaH |
diviiva chakshur aatatam || RV 1.22.20 ||

Meaning -- Those who are entirely devoted to lord Vishnu, after death, go to the spiritual planet, where they lead eternal lives under the thralldom of His superior,internal energy.

tad vipraaso vipanyavo jaagrivaamsah samindhate |
vishnor yat paramam padam || RV 1.22.21 ||

Meaning -- The wise, ever vigilant and diligent in praise, amply glorify that which is the supreme station of Vishnu.

taa vaam vaastuunyushmasigamadhyaiyatra gaavo bhuurishringaa ayaasah |
atraahatad urugaayasya vrishnah paramam padamavabhaati bhuuri || RV 1.154.6 ||

Meaning -- We pray to Vishnu that you may go to those regions where the many-pointed and wide-spreading rays of light expand; for here the supreme station of the many-hymned, the showerer of benefits shines with great splendour.

These shloks are mantras for the devotees of Lord Vishnu and talk about his supreme station and not him supreme to Lord Krishna.

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anku-

@anku-

Stunner

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Posted: 16 years ago

#39

What nonsense Akhl. Atleast dont write lie from Bhagvad Ji. And I did rather say to forget Srimad Bhagvad cause from there I can give not 100 but 1000s of shloks to prove my point. Therefore I would opinion to write from somewhere else.

This is now def. like an SHASTRARTH and the one who proves from more places wins. Yup! I am lovin' it. So, replying to you Akhl.....

Your whole Shlok is wrong signifying as I have always said that you search and write mostly from internet only. The shlok is:--

Vavanda aatmanamanantmachado
Jishnushcha tadarshanjatsadhavasaha
Tavaha bhuma parmeshthinaam prabhur
Badhanjali sasmitamurjaya giraha || 58

And if one wants or has doubt, I will SCAN it and put it here.

Meaning:-- Bhagvan Sri Krishna ne Arjun ko APNE HI EK SWARUP(one who has generated FROM him) Bhagvan ANANT ko milane ke liye legaya. Vaha jake unhone Bhagvan Anant ko pranam kiya.

In this, nowhere has Lord Maha-Vishnu been mentioned but rather there is the mention of Lord Anant who has been called as Bhuma Purash.And further Lord Anant is a form of Lord SRI KRISHNA. Where it has been proved, it has been proved in NARAD PANCHARATRA SHASTRA. The shlok is:--

Anantonirgunonityonnirvikalponiranjano
Niradharonirakaronirabhasonirashraya

And heck, I can scan the whole adhaya if anyone wants.

If one has seen Ramanand Sagars, "SHRI KRISHNA", then in that this shlok has been shown as a scene and a complete episode. I believe one of the members here Lalitha has all the videos of Shri Krishna and anyone can ask her for that specific episode. In that as well, it has been shown that to break Arjuns ego, Lord Sri Krishna take him to show one of his own form, Lord Anant.

And also, in the whole of 89th adhaya, there is no mention of Maha-Vishnu!!

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anku-

@anku-

Stunner

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Posted: 16 years ago

#40

NARAD PANCHA SHASTRA

While talking about Vedas, I will also bring up Shastra. Narada Pancharatra Shastra, in this SHASTRA, it has been shown that the Tridev - Brahma, Vishnu, Mahesha, devta, yaksh, kinar, gandharv, manav adi. have been generated from Lord Krishna. And that Lord Krishna is supreme.

Narad Panchratra Shastra, Samohan tantra ---::
Adikarta Mahakarta Mahakalah Pratapvan
Jagatjivo jagatadhata jagatbharta jagatvasu

Till now, I have proven from Purans, Samhita, Shastra wherein I can put more shloks from other Shastra which I shall later. Apart from these, there are also, Aranya, Bhashaya, Tikas, Upnishad from I will prove Lord Krishna is supreme.

And as far as Veda go, for now I am putting from the following:--

SHUKLA YAJUR VEDA
Om sehtrashirikhapurkha sehstrakasha sehstrapata

Tomorrow will be my last reply as I am going for a four day holiday back to my family in Delhi and will be back on Wednesday and therefore either on that day or from Thursday I will write again and prove you wrong MR. Akhl.

You say it depends on scriptures and now you have brought up your own theory that Vedas are the most authentic scriptures of Hinduism. So, like you say, I can also say that you write from those places which directly support you.

I am ahead of you making mine 9 Purans, 2 Samhita, 1 Shastra and 1 Veda. After returing I shall prove from many more scriptures.