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Yeh Rishta Kya Kehlata Hai - 07 Aug 2025 EDT
Originally posted by: chen2chic
Firstly thanks Vibs for posting Bhavabhuti's URC. I gotto read it thro' your post.
Going thro urs & Chandra's points, I have a bi.......g doubtš¤ Was it not Shatrughan & Pushkal (Bharat's son) who accompany the horse? Sorry I have not read the original Valmiki version of the uttarkhand and may be wrong too....
Originally posted by: chen2chic
And I think Bharat establishes the kingdoms for his sons after the AY. And so does Lakshman for his sons. I think throughout except Shatrughan, the other three brothers are together. And Ram sent for Shatrughan from Mathura when he decided to merge in the Sarayu, meaning B&L were with him. Correct me if I am wrong.
Originally posted by: chen2chic
And Vibs - does the KR have Uttar kand as well or is it only till the Pattabhishekam?
Originally posted by: chen2chic
And truly the cartoon Sita does not merge with the character of real Sita. But then, even if the praja had sought an apology from Sita without her going thro any ordeal, I doubt if she would have accepted to be their queen. The main reason for the praja was that they did not accept the result when the test was not conducted in front of their eyes. If she had gone thro another agnipariksha in front of avadh praja, maybe they would accept her. But again, if Ayodhya accepts, there maybe rumours elsewhere. How many times would she have to prove herself? People did not realise that a proof is a proof, be it once or many times. But Sita had realised this, and the moment she was asked to prove the second time, she PROVED it...period!
Your guess is as good as mine, but it would boil down to the question of whether Sita wanted Rama more than she didn't want to be queen of Ayodhya. I tend to think that if the prajas, for whatever reason, had raised no more questions (say they believed the sung version of Valmiki from her kids, or say the Bhavabhuti version is right and they saw her relieve Rama) and Rama had invited her back, she'd have accepted it, as it would have given her back her Rama. I don't believe she liked leaving for Rasootal, but her choices were pretty much forced on her.
Originally posted by: chen2chic
Had Ram really rejected Sita, as per your words, he would have not not installed her golden statue for the yagna, rather would have had another living wife sitting beside him for the yagna.....Hope you understand it atleast now................
Originally posted by: Vibhishna
Thanks Lalitha and Deepa.
I agree with Deepa that Sanjeevan should be punished. Had be really cared about her, he would have looked for her when he learned that she did not return instead of pacing up and down in his own house. He was the one who failed in his duty by not searching for his wife. If he had gone in search of her and if he had really cared for her he would have understood her predicament. If he had found her on time or atleast seen her that night, she would have spent the night with him anywhere - either outside or in someone else's home and she would not have been blamed.
I feel if she had drowned herself in Sarayu or some other river, it would have definitely been a case of justice denied and the womanfolk would have said that Ram never gave justice to her. This is the reason I prefer to think that she had been given shelter by some sage. Sanjeevan would never accept her back whole heartedly. She would have been better off in an ashram. I just hope her son was well cared for.
Vibs
This is the Sagar version - Sanjivan and Usha are pure Sagar creations. In the original Valmiki, seems like it was a Dhobi who threw out his wife on the grounds that she had spent the night in another man's house, but there, unlike in this case, no more details were given. So it's unclear whether the original victim was actually guilty or innocent.
I've always had problems with Rama exiling Sita, but one thing he did do here - he made it possible for himself to be perceived to be ruling fairly in matters of gender controversies. Had he kept Sita and made rulings, say, favoring Usha, people would have made snide equivalencies between Sita & Usha. Once he got rid of Sita, no one could have said that, and he could have then ruled unfavorably against men who ill-treated their wives, since nobody could have accused him of being in the clutches of his own. But even though I understand this, I hate it even more.š”
Originally posted by: Chandraketu
Vibs
This is the Sagar version - Sanjivan and Usha are pure Sagar creations. In the original Valmiki, seems like it was a Dhobi who threw out his wife on the grounds that she had spent the night in another man's house, but there, unlike in this case, no more details were given. So it's unclear whether the original victim was actually guilty or innocent.
I've always had problems with Rama exiling Sita, but one thing he did do here - he made it possible for himself to be perceived to be ruling fairly in matters of gender controversies. Had he kept Sita and made rulings, say, favoring Usha, people would have made snide equivalencies between Sita & Usha. Once he got rid of Sita, no one could have said that, and he could have then ruled unfavorably against men who ill-treated their wives, since nobody could have accused him of being in the clutches of his own. But even though I understand this, I hate it even more.š”