Doubts and Discussions from the Ramayan - Page 25

Originally posted by: rajnish_here

wow!! sanshkrit pandit great work👏

Originally posted by: ananyacool

thanks but plz no sanskrit pandit thing😒 .......in the vast ocean of Sanskrit knowledge , i know just one drop of it, may be even less than that ....

Originally posted by: chen2chic

Navaratri/Dussehra comes during Sep-Oct.

And Ram Navami comes in April typically around Apr 20th.

And as per Valmiki Ramayan, Rama's birth date inferred is 10th Jan 5114 BC. There is a difference of 100 days in this 10th Jan - 20th Apr.

This is accounted as follows based on Brihad Samhita and the Precession of Equinox:

Varahamihira in his Brihad Samhita states that the retrogade motion of the Vernal Equinox is 1 deg. for every 72 years, ie 1 day slide in every 72 years.

Taking this in consideration as well as the concept of precession of equinox
Slide of 100 days at the rate of 72 years elapse for 1 day of slide gives 7200 years of elapse time
The difference between 5114 BCE and present is 7123 years which is getting close to 7200 years.

Originally posted by: Chandraketu

It does, somewhat, although I find it hard to regard Manthara's statements as factual sourcing. Nonetheless, if you know Sanskrit, I'm convinced that you're right that Rama doesn't refer to Lakshman as the eldest of the 3.

Just because Valmiki's words are credible doesn't imply that all his subjects were necessarily paragons of truth. For instance, when Shurpanakha told Ravan about her run-in with Lakshman, she outright lied when she said she was trying to get Sita for Ravan. Now, just because Valmiki quotes Shurpanakha as having said it doesn't make it true.

Similarly, in 2-8-5, Manthara also says that Rama has a fear of Bharat since he has equal rights over the kingdom. Does that imply that Rama had a fear of Bharat, since Valmiki wrote it? Or doesn't the fact that it came out of the mouth of a sly conniver make it an out & out falsehood? And if Manthara is known to lie about this, on what basis does one assume that she's being truthful about something else?

Originally posted by: bharat999

Navratri comes twice a year, in spring (march-april) and in autum (sep-oct).
Dushera is celebrated on the 10th day after Navratri in Sep-oct.
Ram Navmi is celebrated on the 10th day after th 9th Navratri in March-April.
Please correct me if its wrong.

Originally posted by: Chandraketu

Just because Valmiki's words are credible doesn't imply that all his subjects were necessarily paragons of truth. For instance, when Shurpanakha told Ravan about her run-in with Lakshman, she outright lied when she said she was trying to get Sita for Ravan. Now, just because Valmiki quotes Shurpanakha as having said it doesn't make it true.

Similarly, in 2-8-5, Manthara also says that Rama has a fear of Bharat since he has equal rights over the kingdom. Does that imply that Rama had a fear of Bharat, since Valmiki wrote it? Or doesn't the fact that it came out of the mouth of a sly conniver make it an out & out falsehood? And if Manthara is known to lie about this, on what basis does one assume that she's being truthful about something else?

Originally posted by: chen2chic

I didn't know Navaratri comes twice a year. It is normally the time in Sep-Oct ie close to a month before Diwali.

I do not know if people in any part of India celebrate Navaratri in March-April.

If anyone can clarify this.....thanks in advance...