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Posted: 16 years ago

Well, Vibs, too late for that now, ain't it?

Today's episode was slightly better - Lakshman, much to my surprise, did not commit agni-samadhi (did I spoil it for those of you who haven't watched so far? Oh, soooo sorry 😒!!!) At any rate, the story of Rishi Bhrigu's curse on Vishnu was narrated to him. Now, we saw Sumantra in Rama's chamber yesterday, so where, might you ask, did he suddenly come from? Well, he didn't - the story was narrated here to Lakshman by Vaishishtha, not Sumantra. Not great, since Sumantra narrated this story to Lakshman in Valmiki's version, but given the pioneering work the Sagars are doing, this one doesn't fall in the high crimes category, just the low ones.

But the thing I liked about the narration here, even though it was Vaishistha, not Sumantra, was that Vaishishtha simply narrated to him the story of Bhrigu, and stopped there. He didn't tell him the story of Durvasa telling Dasharath Rama's entire future, and in the process put Lakshman in an ethical dilemma. Now, while I don't normally like departures from Valmiki, this is one of those rare cases where I actually laud the poetic license invoked here.

Reason? Had Lakshman known that Sita was destined to end her incarnation once Rama asked her for her vow, he'd have been ethically compelled to warn Rama about it (similar to Vibhishan advising Ravan to return Sita). As a result, this is one of a few things in Valmiki's version that I find tough to believe - others being Sita being 6, K-L singing the future of Rama to his assembly after Sita's passing as 2 other major examples.

But by narrating to Lakshman only the story of Bhrigu's curse, Vaishishtha managed to assuage Lakshman, and get him to resume his service. I just wish they had shown him meeting Urmila, since it was her crying yesterday that featured. No sense of closure with these clowns.😕

Std disclaimer: yeah, the actors and actresses were great, blah, blah, blah😃

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Posted: 16 years ago

Originally posted by: Chandraketu

Well, Vibs, too late for that now, ain't it?

Today's episode was slightly better - Lakshman, much to my surprise, did not commit agni-samadhi (did I spoil it for those of you who haven't watched so far? Oh, soooo sorry 😒!!!) At any rate, the story of Rishi Bhrigu's curse on Vishnu was narrated to him. Now, we saw Sumantra in Rama's chamber yesterday, so where, might you ask, did he suddenly come from? Well, he didn't - the story was narrated here to Lakshman by Vaishishtha, not Sumantra. Not great, since Sumantra narrated this story to Lakshman in Valmiki's version, but given the pioneering work the Sagars are doing, this one doesn't fall in the high crimes category, just the low ones.

But the thing I liked about the narration here, even though it was Vaishistha, not Sumantra, was that Vaishishtha simply narrated to him the story of Bhrigu, and stopped there. He didn't tell him the story of Durvasa telling Dasharath Rama's entire future, and in the process put Lakshman in an ethical dilemma. Now, while I don't normally like departures from Valmiki, this is one of those rare cases where I actually laud the poetic license invoked here.

Reason? Had Lakshman known that Sita was destined to end her incarnation once Rama asked her for her vow, he'd have been ethically compelled to warn Rama about it (similar to Vibhishan advising Ravan to return Sita). As a result, this is one of a few things in Valmiki's version that I find tough to believe - others being Sita being 6, K-L singing the future of Rama to his assembly after Sita's passing as 2 other major examples.

But by narrating to Lakshman only the story of Bhrigu's curse, Vaishishtha managed to assuage Lakshman, and get him to resume his service. I just wish they had shown him meeting Urmila, since it was her crying yesterday that featured. No sense of closure with these clowns.😕

Std disclaimer: yeah, the actors and actresses were great, blah, blah, blah😃

Thanks Chandraketu 4 the udpate !!😃
Yes, I too wanna to watch Urmilla & Lakshmanji together !😭
Gurmeet's acting & also the actors were mind-blowing !
Bla Bla Bla !😆😆
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Posted: 16 years ago
great summary chandraketu 😛
in todays episode

i was hoping to see an eternal lakshman-urmila scene

dunno why sagars give no footage to lakshman& urmila

poor urmila was so worried for lakshmanji & when lakshmanji returned to ayodhya ,urmila was not at all shown

loved the eternal hug of RAM-LAKSHMAN !!!

Gurmeet & Ankit look like real eternal brothers !!!!

i liked the story of brighu rishi

poor vishnuji sooooooooooo humble & so great that he always accepted every curse with grace & with smile !!!

loved the acting of gurmeet as lord vishnu !!!!

i also loved the dialouge of rishi vashistha when rishi vashistha said to lakshman that lakshman your brother RAM is maryadapurusshotam & he cud never ever b at fault ,what ever is happening only due to the curse of brighu rishi in satyuga !!!!

rishi vashistha cleared all the misunderstandings from the mind of lakshman !!!!

gurmeet as usual was great in his expressions as vishnuji & Ramji !!!!👏⭐️😃

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Posted: 16 years ago

Originally posted by: sita11

great summary chandraketu 😛

in todays episode

i was hoping to see an eternal lakshman-urmila scene

dunno why sagars give no footage to lakshman& urmila

poor urmila was so worried for lakshmanji & when lakshmanji returned to ayodhya ,urmila was not at all shown

loved the eternal hug of RAM-LAKSHMAN !!!

Gurmeet & Ankit look like real eternal brothers !!!!

i liked the story of brighu rishi

poor vishnuji sooooooooooo humble & so great that he always accepted every curse with grace & with smile !!!

loved the acting of gurmeet as lord vishnu !!!!

i also loved the dialouge of rishi vashistha when rishi vashistha said to lakshman that lakshman your brother RAM is maryadapurusshotam & he cud never ever b at fault ,what ever is happening only due to the curse of brighu rishi in satyuga !!!!

rishi vashistha cleared all the misunderstandings from the mind of lakshman !!!!

gurmeet as usual was great in his expressions as vishnuji & Ramji !!!!👏⭐️😃

i agree with you sita11, i too wanted to see a scene of lakshman and urmila 😭. sagars never listen to anyone 😡
It was sad to see how both raam and sita were thinking about each other all the time and the people of ayodha do not care about how upset their king. 😭
I got angry when i heard what the people were saying about sita and raam in yesterdays episode😡
Gurmeet and Debina were brilliant as usual. the hug between lakshman and raam was good 😊
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Posted: 16 years ago
My take on March 31st episode.

Pros:

Wonderful acting by all. Gurmi, Gurmi, Gurmi, if u keep up with ur wonderful acting...I am going to have serious Ramayan withdrawal symptoms when Ramayan is over. 👏 to you. Words fail me everyday when I have to talk of Gurmi as Ramji. He is so wonderful that words r not enough to describe his talent. Way to go Gurmi!!!

Ankit was wonderful too today and I loved the hug between the brothers. So was Kausalya mata, Janak, Vashisht, Debina, Valmiki ashram folks, and Bharat. 👏 to all.

I also like the way they r showing the whole family dealing with the crisis and every one behaving like a normal family. The love between the brothers is wonderful to watch. Also, the palace and ayodhya is filled with people, dasis, sevaks, and guards like a normal kingdom. 👏 for that.

Today, (March 31st) the story line was improved. At least they followed Valmiki with the story of Rishi Brighu's curse. In the original, Sumanthji narrates the curse story to Lakshman. In this Vashisht does it but that slight deviation is okay as long as they don't mess with the whole story like they did yesterday where the praja (illogically) was revolting against Ramji after asking for Sita's abandonment.
If they wanted to show the praja being upset, they should have shown the praja who did not ask for Sita's abandonment fighting/having arguments with the praja who wanted Sita's abandonment. This would have been logical.

Thank goodness they stopped the nonsense and went back to Ramayan instead of showing fiction like Kekta (sorry I do not wish to hurt anyone's feelings but I would hate to see this ancient epic turned into one of Kekta's Saas-Bahu type of illogical nonsense story). This feeling about saas-bahu type serial is strictly "in my humble opinion" and my opinion only. 😃

Today there were no cons so 👏 to Sagars.
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Posted: 16 years ago

wow !!! such detailed take khalrika 👏

i agree with u 😛

i wished sagars wud hv shown a emotional scene of lakshman & urmila !!!! as divarena,chandraketu,chen2chic ,we all were expecting to b shown !!!😛

ofcourse GURMEET is the life of the show !!!!👏👏👏👏

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Posted: 16 years ago
Today's epi was much better!!😃 Thanks Sita for the update n Khalrika di for the review.
After a long time the Vaikunth scene was shown and that too with Vishnu sleeping on serpent bed and Lakshmi at his feet.😊
Gurmi-Debi, looked were great as Vishnu-Lakshmi.
The story of curse as I've read that after Vishnu gets the curse from Bhrigu rishi, he not only accepts the curse but also revives Bhrigu -patni, is this correct?
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Posted: 16 years ago

Originally posted by: ananyacool

Today's epi was much better!!😃 Thanks Sita for the update n Khalrika di for the review.

After a long time the Vaikunth scene was shown and that too with Vishnu sleeping on serpent bed and Lakshmi at his feet.😊
Gurmi-Debi, looked were great as Vishnu-Lakshmi.
The story of curse as I've read that after Vishnu gets the curse from Bhrigu rishi, he not only accepts the curse but also revives Bhrigu -patni, is this correct?

thnks ananya !!!

chandraketu also wrote todays summary !!

i dunnu whether vishnuji revives the wife of brighu rishi !!!

if tht happened then sagars shd hv shown tht

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Posted: 16 years ago
Ananya

You probably have better sources than me, but the one I have doesn't mention Rishi Bhrigu's wife being revived. Akhl might be able to answer that one.

Note that the story that was narrated to Lakshman was actually a narration of a narration: Sumantra was telling Lakshman about a meeting Durvasa had with Dasharath, where he reveals to him that Rama will be separated from Sita. Dasharath was shocked to hear this, and so the story of Bhrigu was then narrated. Like I said earlier, I preferred this version to the original, due to the believability factor.

One more problem I had with Vaishistha telling Lakshman that suicide was sinful - isn't that how Lakshman finally ended it? If so, what's the point in telling him that?

Also, of Rishi Bhrigu's wife was revived, why did Vishnu still accept the curse? Thar would only make sense if the damage done was irrepairable. Also, if I am not mistaken, the original doesn't mention whether or not the rakshashas were killed, as they showed here.

P.S. 1100 for this thread!
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Posted: 16 years ago

Originally posted by: Chandraketu

Well, Vibs, too late for that now, ain't it?

Today's episode was slightly better - Lakshman, much to my surprise, did not commit agni-samadhi (did I spoil it for those of you who haven't watched so far? Oh, soooo sorry 😒!!!) At any rate, the story of Rishi Bhrigu's curse on Vishnu was narrated to him. Now, we saw Sumantra in Rama's chamber yesterday, so where, might you ask, did he suddenly come from? Well, he didn't - the story was narrated here to Lakshman by Vaishishtha, not Sumantra. Not great, since Sumantra narrated this story to Lakshman in Valmiki's version, but given the pioneering work the Sagars are doing, this one doesn't fall in the high crimes category, just the low ones.

But the thing I liked about the narration here, even though it was Vaishistha, not Sumantra, was that Vaishishtha simply narrated to him the story of Bhrigu, and stopped there. He didn't tell him the story of Durvasa telling Dasharath Rama's entire future, and in the process put Lakshman in an ethical dilemma. Now, while I don't normally like departures from Valmiki, this is one of those rare cases where I actually laud the poetic license invoked here.

Reason? Had Lakshman known that Sita was destined to end her incarnation once Rama asked her for her vow, he'd have been ethically compelled to warn Rama about it (similar to Vibhishan advising Ravan to return Sita). As a result, this is one of a few things in Valmiki's version that I find tough to believe - others being Sita being 6, K-L singing the future of Rama to his assembly after Sita's passing as 2 other major examples.

But by narrating to Lakshman only the story of Bhrigu's curse, Vaishishtha managed to assuage Lakshman, and get him to resume his service. I just wish they had shown him meeting Urmila, since it was her crying yesterday that featured. No sense of closure with these clowns.😕

Std disclaimer: yeah, the actors and actresses were great, blah, blah, blah😃

Thanks for ur update! Your blah blahing is well noted😆😉
Coming to the story of Durvasas prophecy , which is narrated by Sumantra. Sumantra doesn't tell the life of Rama in much details, he just says that Durvasa had predicted that Rama will rule for 10000 years( there you go! this 10000 will haunt u again😉) and his sons will be crowned outside Ayodhya; Also that the sons of all the brothers will get new kingdoms. He doesn't talk about what'll happen to Sita or that she'll enter the earth upon asking the oath again. Where she took refuge etc

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