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Posted: 16 years ago
Thanks Sita for the epi summary.👏
According to the serial, the women of Ayodhya are bitterly opposing Sitaji's exile also people in the vicinity of Valmiki ashram are blaming Ramji saying he personally doubted Sitaji, thats why he exiled her
This just shows that how difficult it is to be a king , its like holding a double edged sword however u hold it it'll cut your hand.
Only one particular village ( in which Usha-incident happened) objected Sitaji being the queen.🤔
Urmila excelled today, 👏her anxiety regarding Lakshman's absence was well shown n finally she manages to ask Ramji about Lakshman's absence.
A blooper we should say(?) Today Lakshman says in his mind that the decision of Ramji exiling Sita ji was not acceptable to him and hence he is not to return to Ayodhya but he returned to ayodhya in friday's epi n was conforonted by the women of Ayodhya... looking to todays epi n listening to the dialogue of Lakshman n watching his flashback of how he took a vow, leaving towards forest with Sita ji , dropping her in theforest n Sitaji drawing a line to stop him , all this try to show that he hasn't returned to Ayodhya yet.🤔
Nevertheless Ankit was good today, as usual ...
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Posted: 16 years ago

Originally posted by: ananyacool

Thanks Sita for the epi summary.👏

According to the serial, the women of Ayodhya are bitterly opposing Sitaji's exile also people in the vicinity of Valmiki ashram are blaming Ramji saying he personally doubted Sitaji, thats why he exiled her
This just shows that how difficult it is to be a king , its like holding a double edged sword however u hold it it'll cut your hand.
Only one particular village ( in which Usha-incident happened) objected Sitaji being the queen.🤔
Urmila excelled today, 👏her anxiety regarding Lakshman's absence was well shown n finally she manages to ask Ramji about Lakshman's absence.
A blooper we should say(?) Today Lakshman says in his mind that the decision of Ramji exiling Sita ji was not acceptable to him and hence he is not to return to Ayodhya but he returned to ayodhya in friday's epi n was conforonted by the women of Ayodhya... looking to todays epi n listening to the dialogue of Lakshman n watching his flashback of how he took a vow, leaving towards forest with Sita ji , dropping her in theforest n Sitaji drawing a line to stop him , all this try to show that he hasn't returned to Ayodhya yet.🤔
Nevertheless Ankit was good today, as usual ...

nice take ananya👏
yup!! i really liked the concern of RAMJi for his praja,he really wanted to know the reaction of the praja after sitajis exile ,
sumnta informed ramji tht ayodhya ladies were really furious !!!!
RAMJIS crtical dilemma stage ,what to do & what not to do ????
poor Ramji !!!!😭
i think lakshmanji wud hv decided tht he wud never stay at ayodhya ,& i think he returned to ayodhya at the order of sitaji but seeing the reaction of the matas & ayodhya ladies ,he immediately walked out of ayodhya feeling himself as a culprit !!!😭
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Posted: 16 years ago

Thanks again Sita, maybe I got confused.....😔

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Posted: 16 years ago

Originally posted by: sita11

nice take ananya👏
yup!! i really liked the concern of RAMJi for his praja,he really wanted to know the reaction of the praja after sitajis exile ,
sumnta informed ramji tht ayodhya ladies were really furious !!!!
RAMJIS crtical dilemma stage ,what to do & what not to do ????
poor Ramji !!!!😭
i think lakshmanji wud hv decided tht he wud never stay at ayodhya ,& i think he returned to ayodhya at the order of sitaji but seeing the reaction of the matas & ayodhya ladies ,he immediately walked out of ayodhya feeling himself as a culprit !!!😭



I haven't watched the episode yet, but I think Lakshman might have come into the city but did not go to the palace. After hearing such words from the citizens he might have decided to end his life. My guesses again.

What I don't understand is that - who is Lakshman trying to obey. All his life he wanted to serve his elder brother Ram. Then when Sita was banished he said he would not return back without her. Now after listening to what Sita told him (especially after she had specifically mentioned that he should serve Ram at all times) he decides to end his life ? ? ? 😕 😕 😕



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Posted: 16 years ago

Originally posted by: Vibhishna



I haven't watched the episode yet, but I think Lakshman might have come into the city but did not go to the palace. After hearing such words from the citizens he might have decided to end his life. My guesses again.

What I don't understand is that - who is Lakshman trying to obey. All his life he wanted to serve his elder brother Ram. Then when Sita was banished he said he would not return back without her. Now after listening to what Sita told him (especially after she had specifically mentioned that he should serve Ram at all times) he decides to end his life ? ? ? 😕 😕 😕



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Agree with everyone about Ankit & Meenakshi's performance.

I didn't exactly see Lakshman's departure as a blooper: on Friday, they showed him return to Ayodhya and inform the rajmatas that he failed to bring back Sita, and Sumitra expressed her embarrasment at having such a son. Then while Kaushalya retired to her inner chamber, Lakshman turned away and left. He may have been embarrased at what Sumitra said, or he may have been following through on what he vowed to Rama when he said he'd abandon him, or he may have decided that if he couldn't serve Sita, he wouldn't be serving Rama or Ayodhya either. So he (following the train of thought here) may have returned to the forest and decided to take agni-samadhi.😲


The other thing here, as was noted earlier - the division of opinion on pure gender lines: would Rama have taken such a decision had it been so divisive and caused such unrest? The reason he took that was that the population at large didn't accept Sita. Here, they're showing a huge portion of the population pretty much ready to revolt at her exile.😕😕😕


The other notable thing - one of the very convincing explanations here about why Sita was sent to Valmiki's ashram, rather than to Mithila, was to shelter her from such gossip, and here, there would be no such atmosphere. Yet they show her overhear the villagers laud Rama for exiling her, thereby demolishing this argument at least in this serial. (I accept that the argument itself was credible, but here, it looks like Sita might just as well have been taken anywhere else.)


The other incredible thing Sita said - there was no better place than this ashram. But I thought that in her final vow, she says that no-one but Rama was ever in her mind, in which case, this ashram, where Rama is absent, should not be the best place for her. Now this I call a blooper.


So Lakshman lights a pyre? 🤢🤢🤢Well, we all know that in the end of the story, Lakshman gives up his life, albeit for a completely different reason, but hey! This wouldn't be the first time the sequence of events have been re-shuffled in the story. Just a small change in detail - instead of dying at the end, he'd die now, and instead of dying by adapting a meditative posture, he'd commit agni-samadhi. Since this is soooooo different from anything I've read anywhere, it provides a very compelling reason to watch it😕


So aside from the fact that this entire episode is fictitious, today was a great show👏

P.S. Vibs, congratulations on 900!!!👏

Edited by Chandraketu - 16 years ago
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Posted: 16 years ago
Now you guys dont leave anything for me to say, uh? 😔 😉
What should I say now?❓ But I'm late today so cant blame you....
We saw Sitarekha, and now we'll see Lakshman's Agnipravesh?😕

Originally posted by: Chandraketu

The other incredible thing Sita said - there was no better place than this ashram. But I thought that in her final vow, she says that no-one but Rama was ever in her mind, in which case, this ashram, where Rama is absent, should not be the best place for her. Now this I call a blooper.

Probably she meant to say, given the circumstances, this was the best place for her since Ayodhya is not even a good place for her, leave alone being the best.
Vibs - Congo on 900!👏
Edited by chen2chic - 16 years ago
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Posted: 16 years ago

Originally posted by: Chandraketu

Agree with everyone about Ankit & Meenakshi's performance.

I didn't exactly see Lakshman's departure as a blooper: on Friday, they showed him return to Ayodhya and inform the rajmatas that he failed to bring back Sita, and Sumitra expressed her embarrasment at having such a son. Then while Kaushalya retired to her inner chamber, Lakshman turned away and left. He may have been embarrased at what Sumitra said, or he may have been following through on what he vowed to Rama when he said he'd abandon him, or he may have decided that if he couldn't serve Sita, he wouldn't be serving Rama or Ayodhya either. So he (following the train of thought here) may have returned to the forest and decided to take agni-samadhi.😲


The other thing here, as was noted earlier - the division of opinion on pure gender lines: would Rama have taken such a decision had it been so divisive and caused such unrest? The reason he took that was that the population at large didn't accept Sita. Here, they're showing a huge portion of the population pretty much ready to revolt at her exile.😕😕😕


The other notable thing - one of the very convincing explanations here about why Sita was sent to Valmiki's ashram, rather than to Mithila, was to shelter her from such gossip, and here, there would be no such atmosphere. Yet they show her overhear the villagers laud Rama for exiling her, thereby demolishing this argument at least in this serial. (I accept that the argument itself was credible, but here, it looks like Sita might just as well have been taken anywhere else.)


The other incredible thing Sita said - there was no better place than this ashram. But I thought that in her final vow, she says that no-one but Rama was ever in her mind, in which case, this ashram, where Rama is absent, should not be the best place for her. Now this I call a blooper.


So Lakshman lights a pyre? 🤢🤢🤢Well, we all know that in the end of the story, Lakshman gives up his life, albeit for a completely different reason, but hey! This wouldn't be the first time the sequence of events have been re-shuffled in the story. Just a small change in detail - instead of dying at the end, he'd die now, and instead of dying by adapting a meditative posture, he'd commit agni-samadhi. Since this is soooooo different from anything I've read anywhere, it provides a very compelling reason to watch it😕


So aside from the fact that this entire episode is fictitious, today was a great show👏

P.S. Vibs, congratulations on 900!!!👏



Vibs, Congo on 900! 👏

I have one question to ask the Sagars. If they wanted to make up ficticious stories of Ramji, why call it Ramayan? I am going to call it Sagarayan from now onwards. I am a little 😡😡😡 for this. It is the fine acting by all the actors on this serial that is making me come back to watch it every Monday. If the acting had been bad I would have left this show long ago.

Pros:

All actors of Ramayan, with a special mention for Ankit and Urmila today, get 👏

Cons:

For the Sagars' Uttarkhand fiction 😡
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Posted: 16 years ago
Your anger is very apt Khalrika di . Me too just hating this deviations🤢 and I think we all are sailing in the same boat. If not had been backed by superb acting by the cast and my love for Ramayan, I would never watch this part of the serial, even by mistake
Vibs:
Congrats on 900+👏
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Posted: 16 years ago

Originally posted by: ananyacool

Your anger is very apt Khalrika di . Me too just hating this deviations🤢 and I think we all are sailing in the same boat. If not had been backed by superb acting by the cast and my love for Ramayan, I would never watch this part of the serial, even by mistake

Vibs:
Congrats on 900+👏



I am more upset after watching today's show another time. Lakshman is Ramji's greatest strength at this time of crisis. Instead they are showing him like a weakling running off to jump in the fire. 😡

Also, there is some serious logic problem. The praja were the reason that Ramji had to send her away. Now, the same praja is finding fault with Ramji? What is the point of sending her away then? Are they showing Ramji as a king filled with whims and fancies who does things for no reason? Ridiculous!!!!!!!!
👎🏼👎🏼👎🏼 to the Sagars' fiction Uttarkhand.
👎🏼👎🏼
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Posted: 16 years ago
Thank you Chandraketu, Deepa, Khalrika ji and Ananya. I never notice my milestones till our scorekeeper (just kidding, Chandra Bhaiya 😉) reminds me of the score 😆

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