Radha Krishn- EDT & The Epic based Doubts/ Discussions - Page 8

Originally posted by: vyapti

I think humanity does not exist without love. And Radha is goddess of love( not only romantic). Sorry for playing devils advocate.

humanity can exist with empathy in my opinion. And empathy can rise from many emotions, not only love. Love is one the most imp emotions, i agree, but it is not the center of all!!

Empathy is also a kind of love. If we think about love in the broader sense. Empathy creates a bond between us.

It's a fact that Lord Shiva is shav without his Shakti.

But Shiva is not completely inert in absence of Shaki.

He has his own Swatantra Shakti. Performs his duty through his Swatantra Shakti.

Similarly Vishnuji's Swatantra shakti is, Devi Yogamaya.

May be Krishna is invoking, Devi Yogamaya, as Yogeshwara.

Have seen last 2 epi after a long time. Seeing the promo, could understand only this part. 😆

But he is shown doing jap of Radha's name. He told that the bond between Radha Krishna is the yog of Prakriti Purusha which can not be destroyed.

He is invoking his inner Yoga Shakti, to find out solution.

Radha being his inner Shakti, her physical form is dying. But His inner power, is not dead. Hence it needs to be awakened.

Originally posted by: mnx12

He is invoking his inner Yoga Shakti, to find out solution.

Radha being his inner Shakti, her physical form is dying. But His inner power, is not dead. Hence it needs to be awakened.

I agree with what you're saying. I also came to understand that this is what he plans to do when he told Balram that it is Radha's body that is dying, not them. So by finding his inner self, it will be the only way to bring it back, hence why he says "Radhe Radhe" and Radha finally opens his eyes.

Afterwards, despite the illogical nature of the CV's, they still manage to catch up at some point...

As you asked Gayatri , I am posting this here also. Please continue with your precious views here, waiting to read.🤗

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Originally posted by ReadLo

Thank you for your answer.

I don't have Hinduism as my religion, so I often try to understand things. Some are easy. But the case of Radha Krishna is really complicated to understand. At first I thought it was useless, but talking about it with you made me curious.

It is heartening to read about the initiative taken byMinaxi to explain the RK love in such a beautiful way.

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Cynthia, these Epic stories are reminders of the great cultural heritage that is unique to India. Eastern philosophy and Thought are entirely different from Western philosophy and its perspective regarding God and Religion.

The ambiguities here are part of the Divine Love of RadhaKrishna for the purpose of lending it vibrancy and excitement.

The right perspective is to look at the Radha Krishna Leela as “The play of Divinity with its own self”.

The divine beings R&K descended on this earth to define universal love from a different perspective. Until their flourishing love on earth, the love considered as a taboo to discuss openly, has only for a specific purpose, for the continuation of the creation , but Krishna has given a new meaning to love, a divine, eternal meaning through the free expressions in group dances and roaming on the river bank at night, assemble with milkmaids at one place whenever he wants to entertain, this God is God of Love, a fond love associated with bonding, not lust, he has given a divine honor to love ,he never insulted any woman in his life. Radha never wanted to think about anyone after her initial meeting with her Krishna.

Yes , there are many stories regarding these eternal lovers, about their romantic overtures for each other [ Jayadeva’s Ashtapadis, written around 15th –17th-century poet Jayadeva] about their divine longing throughout their life, in many folklore stories. In Devi Bhagavatam, Brahma Vaivarta Purana, Garga Samhita, Adi Varaha Purana, Radha is mentioned as the source of energy to Krishna , His infinite Laxmi, Shakti to Krishna, for whom the feminine assistance was undercurrent for his energy, who needed female support to accomplish his hardest mission on earth, i.e, eliminating the sin and establishing the harmony in human relationships.

The Divine love of Radha Krishna has achieved the awareness of creativity by manifesting itself simultaneously in the forms of humans at four different states of self-awareness. They are –Jagriti – in which in this state the ‘human’ experiences through sense organs all kinds of pleasures, this is the ‘gross’ or ‘sthul’ state. Some scriptures said that they derived pleasure from each other, expressed their love through their body and soul, a relationship which needs a stamp of marriage from the society, for this in BVP and in Garg Samhita, Krishna explained,” how can I marry myself? Radha has not a separate entity in this world, we are one, one soul and united in Divine Atma as Paramatma, how can I marry myself?” But in the same Puran ,Brahma performed R&K marriage in a forest away from public glare. There also Krishna has given an explanation, "I am here on earth in the form of a human, have to follow the norms of a human in this society, so, by owning Radha I regained myself again on this earth." Both ways he is right, and if we ponder more there, many meanings we’ll be able to get.

The later stage of their bonding is –Swapna [ dream like]This is a subtle ‘sookshma’ state. In this state the intellect, the senses get merged with the mind. The desires and concepts that get germinated from whatever is seen or heard during the ‘jaagrit’ state, and the ‘illusory world’ that appears real based on these is the‘swapna’ (dream) state. This I think refers to their bonding through their soul after their separation. They were there for each other , but lived separately in different places, united with divine bonding.

The next stage of their love is –Sushupti, this state is like ‘samadhi’ or ‘fainting’. In this, one does not have to elevate the consciousness in one's self. In this state, the subtle desires are experienced through the atma ,the soul. For this, there is no need of the body to unite, it is nothing but the unity of two souls, not illusory but in the divine luminosity, it is the ultimate union at the Spiritual level.

The fourth and the most important stage is –Turiya---This is the state of salvation (moksha),and ‘oneness’ in which all perceptions of duality disappear. Nothing besides God is perceptible. They are divine and one, though lived at separate places for specific purposes!

But these two initial ‘dualities’, Radha and Krishna are eternally fully aware of their primary pre-manifestation state of ‘oneness’! Radha is definitely the soul of Shri Krishna. She is the undivided form of Shri Krishna.She will remain a mystery unless one can know her inexpressible divine elements.

It should be noted that the act of the “outflow” stemming from Krishna is “Dhara” and its “inflow”back to Krishna being reverse of Dhara is called “Radha”.

Cynthia, she is the worshipper as well as Krishna’s deity to be worshipped! That is the love story of Radha Krishna. I tried my best to share with you whatever less I know about these two eternal lovers and their love.

Thank you Mina and Cynthia.

Let us all continue posting what ever we have read of know about our RK. I will post one small readup soon :)

Meenakshi, can i request you to change the heading of this thread to "RadhaKrishna episode discussion and beyond.." so that we can put interesting facts about our RK and stories pls???

Done.

Hope it's appropriate.