Pehla Pyar- Rehaan Vs Shaad- Can you compare love?

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chicksoup

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Posted: 10 years ago

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Originally posted by: KhatamKahani
By the way, soup. Sorry I forgot to explain.

The AaHer-Rehan bangle scene I mentioned, maybe it wasn't bangles. I'm talking about when SeherSanam cut her fingers or something and Rehan came to call them for dinner, so Seher pulled back from Aahil. It was early on during AaHer. I thought the cut was due to a broken bangle, but I can't be sure now, it may have been something else.

Aww..Thanx.😊

It was a broken bangle.

That scene showed how shameful Seher was when it came to Rehaan seeing her with Ahil, but Ahil's love story MADE NO SENSE to her...SELFISH...Yes. But that was the charm to her-

That is the charm in everyone's love story...until it crosses a line...steps out of the boundary...

Seher could relate to only her love story because she was brought up that way...not to think of anyone else...

Shaad is an only child...he thinks his life was screwed up till now...In fact, it is THE STORY OF EVERY CHILD...😆I CAN CONNECT SO WELL WITH SHAAD because my parents never/ still don't get each other to a large extent...It is the story of most of my peers😆...There are very few filmy love stories in that generation...but respect and love, there is...👏

That is why I laugh when Shaad paints himself as a Tragedy Prince!😆 I mean..everyone has problems...And we don't all need balloons!😕🤣

Edited to add: I hate it that I laugh at his pain...

I mean...It is just that most people I know have these issues as a couple...and they all move on because life teaches U to...

Unless U think U killed your dad😲...Do U really need balloons?😊

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Posted: 10 years ago

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Originally posted by: sageflower7
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That long essay better be here when I get back!😳 😆

Sage! 🤗

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Mandy

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Posted: 10 years ago

#23

Nice post! OK my take on Rehan.

Rehan did say to Seher when he confessed his love that "Sometimes to get love you must speak up. I am not going to let love walk out of my life a 2nd time!". I think he knew that he had made a mistake not confessing to Sanam earlier, because he knows he missed his chance. She may or may not have accepted him, but at least he knows he tried. Maybe one reason why he moved too fast with Seher. Fear that his chance will slip away again.

Also, Rehan liked Sanam as a person first. He liked her steady and strong nature. Her ambition to be independent again. He also knew Aahil had treated her unfairly. So he has some sympathy there too, and maybe even some guilt for having helped Aahil to stop her from leaving town once etc. (Dont remember all the details). But Rehan was always this steady and strong guy. His major flaw was hiding his Ammi's true nature from Aahil. But we have discussed that before. I think his feelings for Sanam were GENUINE, and he cared for her a lot. It was his first love.

Unlike popular opinion, he did not back off from Sanam for Aahil! He backed off from Sanam for Sanam! THAT is what I respect the most about Rehan! Even after the SAHIL marriage, Tanveer gave Rehan the impression that Sanam will divorce Aahil and they may have another chance. He even left Bangles for her on Chaand Raat. He totally backed off ONLY when he realised that Sanam had fallen for Aahil. That little "Speech" she gave about how "Aahil has a Masoom Dil!" The small smile he gave as she thanked him for being a "Good friend!" THAT was when he realized, this girl will NEVER be mine! Unlike FAIZ who started to act like a scorned PSYCHO, Rehan conceded defeat and backed away!

SO when Aahil confronted him, he told a few home truths as well. As in "Are you only concerned coz she is your wife, or is there more to it?" I think that was the moment Rehan realised, this feeling between SAHIL is mutual. Aahil has fallen for Sanam, and Sanam for Aahil! So like a TRUE gentlemen, he backed off! He didnt turn into a CLICHE negative nut case, but decided to move on, and he DID, with Seher! Some may find that relationship odd, but I thought it was legitimate. At that point he harbored NO thoughts of pursuing Sanam again. She was a closed chapter for him. So it was fine that he opened another chapter with Seher. The fact that she LOOKED like Sanam was the sticking point! :) But I think he genuinely loved her. Because after finding out she was a Con and breaking up with her, HE realised he was wrong and wanted her back. So he loved her despite all her faults and not being perfect! Unlike Sanam, who he always saw as this "Ideal" girl! So Rehan loved Seher for who she was and who she was not as well. I think their love was sincere. From both sides.

As for Shaad? Well "Jannat" is this non existent mirage. A person HE has created. He has only seen glimpses of the real person that she is. Not enough to say this is "Love" and it was too rushed. Their relationship has no honesty. So on that score alone it is a fail and cannot be categorized as love. In Shaad's case I think the feeling is some sort of obsessive possessiveness. He also has got this "Savior" complex and he thinks somehow that HE can keep her safe, when it is actually due to HIM that she is in danger. He knows she is in love with another man. Also, she told him when they first met that she "knew" someone was out there that loved her more than life! So he KNOWS very well, that she is already taken! But he doesn't care! Where as REHAN cared when he knew that Sanam had fallen for Aahil, and he RESPECTED her choice and her right to make it. He backed off because he knew she was not his! That, after being her friend and having a close relationship with her BEFORE Aahil did. But Shaad? This girl could be someone's wife, even Mother, but that appears to not concern him in the least! So to me, what he feels is some sort of delusional obsession for a non existent person called "Jannat". NOT true love for the real women "Sanam" who he does not even know!

Edited by MrDarcyfan - 10 years ago

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chicksoup

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Posted: 10 years ago

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Originally posted by: MrDarcyfan
Nice post! OK my take on Rehan.
Rehan did say to Seher when he confessed his love that "Sometimes to get love you must speak up. I am not going to let love walk out of my life a 2nd time!". I think he knew that he had made a mistake not confessing to Sanam earlier, because he knows he missed his chance. She may or may not have accepted him, but at least he knows he tried. Maybe one reason why he moved too fast with Seher. Fear that his chance will slip away again.

Also, Rehan liked Sanam as a person first. He liked her steady and strong nature. Her ambition to be independent again. He also knew Aahil had treated her unfairly. So he has some sympathy there too, and maybe even some guilt for having helped Aahil to stop her from leaving town once etc. (Dont remember all the details). But Rehan was always this steady and strong guy. His major flaw was hiding his Ammi's true nature from Aahil. But we have discussed that before. I think his feelings for Sanam were GENUINE, and he cared for her a lot. It was his first love.

Unlike popular opinion, he did not back off from Sanam for Aahil! He backed off from Sanam for Sanam! THAT is what I respect the most about Rehan! Even after the SAHIL marriage, Tanveer gave Rehan the impression that Sanam will divorce Aahil and they may have another chance. He even left Bangles for her on Chaand Raat. He totally backed off ONLY when he realised that Sanam had fallen for Aahil. That little "Speech" she gave about how "Aahil has a Masoom Dil!" The small smile he gave as she thanked him for being a "Good friend!" THAT was when he realized, this girl will NEVER be mine! Unlike FAIZ who started to act like a scorned PSYCHO, Rehan conceded defeat and backed away!

SO when Aahil confronted him, he told a few home truths as well. As in "Are you only concerned coz she is your wife, or is there more to it?" I think that was the moment Rehan realised, this feeling between SAHIL is mutual. Aahil has fallen for Sanam, and Sanam for Aahil! So like a TRUE gentlemen, he backed off! He didnt turn into a CLICHE negative nut case, but decided to move on, and he DID, with Seher! Some may find that relationship odd, but I thought it was legitimate. At that point he harbored NO thoughts of perusing Sanam. She was a closed chapter for him. So it was fine that he opened another chapter with Seher. The fact that she LOOKED like Sanam was the sticking point! :) But I think he genuinely loved her. Because after finding out she was a Con and breaking up with her, HE realised he was wrong and wanted her back. So he loved her despite all her faults and not being perfect! Unlike Sanam, who he always saw as this "Ideal" girl! So Rehan loved Seher for who she was and who she was not as well. I think their love was sincere. From both sides.

As for Shaad? Well "Jannat" is this non existent mirage. A person HE has created. He has only seen glimpses of the real person that she is. Not enough to say this is "Love" and it was too rushed. Their relationship has no honesty. So on that score alone it is a fail and cannot be categorized as love. In Shaad's case I think the feeling is some sort of obsessive possessiveness. He also has got this "Savior" complex and he thinks somehow that HE can keep her safe, when it is actually due to HIM that she is in danger. He knows she is in love with another man. Also, she told him when they first met that she "knew" someone was out there that loved her more than life! So he KNOWS very well, that she is already taken! But he doesn't care! Where as REHAN cared when he knew that Sanam had fallen for Aahil, and he RESPECTED her choice and her right to make it. He backed off because he knew she was not his! That is after being her freind and having a close relationship with her BEFORE Aahil did. But Shaad? This girl could be someone's wife, even Mother, but that appears to not concern him in the least! So to me, what he feels is some sort of delusional obsession for a non existent person called "Jannat". NOT true love for the real women "Sanam" who he does not even know!

Res.

Will answer U and Sage if she gets back..when I get back.

Thank U Mandy for taking the time out here.

I am trying to explore the characters in a diff light...and seriously didn't expect such a good response. I thought people wouldn't be interested in Rehaan or Shaad or those who seem interested may not bother to reply...This is nice.😳

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KhatamKahani

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Posted: 10 years ago

#25

Originally posted by: chicksoup

Ouch, Aish.

Give the kid a chance to redeem himself...Even rapists are allowed to reform and forgiven by those they wronged..(Rarely!)

He is justified in his eyes...let him learn where he made the mistake...and redeem himself.

He has not even addresed the issue after the decalaration- The CVs have carefully kept him out and not given further explanation...so may be he plans to keep a distance till he solves the villain who has come so near him...his life's maksath is near him...and he will probably tackle the tangled web later?

We could forgive even an Ayan who stupidly went and asked for his bhaabhi to be married to him...and went the full extent with all the rituals...(Who saud they didn't have creative poverty back then too...Actually compared to how Zoyaan was executed, except for the AsYa hugs...this track is not too bad either...I mean execution wise and not storywise...

NOT SAYING THIS IS BETTER or NOT WORSE...Just that the tracks are comparably badly executed .😊

And I kind of tune out of everything outside the love story...beyond Junoon nothing exists for me, because I KNOW THAT IS HOW GUL WRITES HER STORIES.

Everyone is manipulated to accommodate the love story and its ups and downs.

Which actually makes any sort of discussion pointles...because Gul will never tackle the side stories well...SHE IS JUST NOT INTERESTED!🥱...Unless it can stretch the story further.😆

Soup, no matter what, it's never going to be okay with us.

The heart of the matter is that it's not even acknowledged what he's doing. I think most of us will agree, that's the worse thing.

Is he justified in his eyes? Then that goes against the argument that he knows he's wrong.

I don't even hate him. I never have. He's not worth it. I have even pitied him. But those are fleeting moments because otherwise what he's doing is hardly acknowledged and will be brushed past. In short, I am indifferent.

Comparing him to forgiven rapists or murderers, well even those who forgive realize the gravity of what they did. The full depth of what was done is not lost or ignored.

Is that going to happen with Sanam/Jannat--I highly doubt it. if it happens, then I am glad. But if it's not? Then people will be harsh on him.

Give him a chance to redeem himself? Why should he get that chance to redeem himself on his own terms with maybe one or two quick actions? No reaction to his actions from others, not even himself really. What, really, we're going to see him beat himself up over what he's done when he hasn't done so till now or even cared to? I doubt it.

Am I against forgiveness? No. Not at all. I have even said, I don't even need him to be punished. But forgiveness without acknowledgment, yes I cannot get behind. But I know that is what will most likely happen.

The best we can do is ignore this and wait for the story to move. That is all.

And I know that's what you are saying too, and that is what we are doing. Ignore it the best we can and wait for the story to move. But that doesn't mean there won't be harshness. He doesn't give much reason for people NOT to be harsh with him. And that is that makers' own fault.

Edited by KhatamKahani - 10 years ago

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Mandy

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Posted: 10 years ago

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@KK:

"He doesn't give much reason for people NOT to be harsh with him. And that is that makers' own fault!".

@Bold: Yes it's hard not to be harsh when they make it clear that he appears to show blatant disregard for the injustice he is doing to this stranger and also her true relatives. Her family/ love interest.

Yes we all get selfish when we are overwhelmed with new emotions. But they should also at least show that he is having some dilemma about his hasty decision. Because end of the day, a person who cannot face reality is not someone who is quite right in the head. Him being an officer of the "Law", should very well know what he is doing is illegal. He should know if he gets caught the consequences will be dire. But he is not even considering any of this! So that shows me, he either has no conscience, or has difficulty deciphering between REAL and FALSE!

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Az07

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Posted: 10 years ago

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I guess it's an early comparison for shad as we all have to wait & c how he is going to deal with the fact that the women whom he loves is already married & deeply in love with her husband. According to cvs there is going to be a triangle. So v all have to wait & c.

Coming to rehan as u said he knew sanam in & out. He was her friend first. Mostly he fell for the character of sanam. Very loyal & straightforward. Just like him. He choose the correct path. He met her guardian first. Her badi ammi. He was ready to propose her. But destiny has another plans. Destiny made two people tied together b4 they knew the love each other. Frankly it was rehan who understood that even b4 they both have understood. That's y he moved out from IH. Yes he was broken. But as I said destiny has its own plans. His broken heart was healed by none other than the look alike twin of his first love. Yes there story was rushed ( they were planning to shut the show in October.) but if u c there was time between there story. One month seher was with rehan in the guest house of kohinoor. It was seher who was first fall for rehan. She couldn't recognise it till rehan said it out. Truly they both deserved a happy life. But cvs an I won't go to that area. If sanam & rehan has married they would have made such a boring kid in the world. They both are too similar.

Coming to shad I really hope he moves out with dignity from sahils life once he learn the truth. Towards the end of the day sahil going to be together. I really hope he meets someone who truly loves him. ( hopefully that's not seher this time. It's unfair for the girl to get a guy who romanced with her twin. At least rehan never had any tacky scenes with sanam. He always maintained a distance from sanam.)

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Mandy

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Posted: 10 years ago

#28

@Az07:

Yes Seher and Shaad is a huge mistake after the way they have shown Sanam and Shaad. It is too compromised now. They stay in the same room and even though they never show Shaad sleep on the same bed, its possible that he does.

He was standing in underwear in front of her, she was standing exposing her back and stomach to him, and asking him to do up her blouse etc? Then he has even declared love to her without her knowing and then even closed off her file to keep her with him. He leaves no chance to get close to her as well, and never dissuades her when she tries to come near him!

So given all this it will be really unfair to Seher to land with him. A guy who "pretended" to be her sister's husband? I mean, remember how we felt about AHER? How is this any different? There also Sanam was sleeping in the same room with Aahil, sharing his bed and his space. Acting as his wife. They even fell in love and were "truly" married. THIS may not be at that level, but still Shaad and Sanam have been in too much of a compromising position now for SEHER to feel comfortable getting close to him. I think it's a terrible idea and should not be pursued at all! As for Shaad finding someone who loves him? I don't know if they will show all that. But if they did, it should be someone else, not Seher. Maybe Misbah? I don't know how she can be so nice about everything after she knows that Shaad pretty much ditched her at the alter and lied that he was single when he was married.

I guess even SHE has "Bhoolneki Bimari" like Jannat! LOL