Pehla Pyar- Rehaan Vs Shaad- Can you compare love?

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Posted: 10 years ago
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So, since the story is at a standstill🄱, I felt like studying this concept of love.😊

This idea suddenly came to me when I thought of Shaad...and then Rehaan.

I thought it'd be worth it to study them both wrt their feelings for Sanam...And hopefully come to a conclusion ...Of course, when it comes to love, there is no comparison...So I feel like just putting down my thoughts and hopefully get some inputs from here. (And I do mean NO BUTCHERING COMMENTS please😳...would be really grateful if anyone could contribute from Shaad's or Rehaan's POV. Not including Ahil because it wouldn't be an unbiased discussion..plus...Sanam reciprocates Ahil's feelings , so that'd be really unfair too.)

So this is about Ek Haseena and Do Deewane.

A haseena who is unaware of what her deewane felt for her, perhaps...or perhaps we will know as the story progresses...

Rehaan: He is the one who deserved Sanam's love, by all means. If one can actually deserve love...IMO, love is unconditional and therefore no one needs to deserve it...It is freely given according to the giver's wish...and by that logic, Sanam deserves all the love she can get from anyone and everyone...and she can choose who she wants to give her heart to.

Getting back to Rehaan...He is the one who actually got the blessings from Badi Ammi...THE ONLY ONE...and by all means, he is the one who should have married Sanam. He stood with her through thick and thin...bought a ring with the intention of marrying her...and finally left his house because he couldn't take it that his true love was wrested away from him. Up till there, Rehaan's love story was perfect. He gave up his love for his brother...or because he could not overrule his powerful Ammi...whatever...it remains that he could never proclaim his love to Sanam. Is that love to be mourned? Or does it die because he did fall for someone else and decided to move on?

Pehla Pyar- First Love-

"Maybe not," she said as we came to the car. "But maybe that isn't so bad. You can't love anyone that way more than once in a lifetime. It's too hard and it hurts too much when it ends. The first boy is always the hardest to get over, Haven. It's just the way the world works."
Sarah Dessen, That Summer

"No, this trick won't work... How on earth are you ever going to explain in terms of chemistry and physics so important a biological phenomenon as first love? "
Albert Einstein

Is this what Sanam was to Rehaan? Or did he move on too quickly?

Shaad: A child wedded to the Army- A boy who swore never to let a woman come in the path of his profession - or not allow his duty not being able to do justice to a wife...He fell in love...at first sight.

Quite unlike Rehaan, actually. He knew nothing about Jannat/ Sanam- save that she had a beautiful smile and an innocent soul...and he just allowed himself to fall head over heels- unheeding the consequences, disregarding the implications to her future...Is his love selfish? If so, was not Rehaan's too? Did they both not love her not knowing what her choices are?

But...Does that make their First love insignificant?

And ...Is Shaad's First love his only love? Does this first love lose its sheen if he ever moves on?

"True love, like any other strong and addicting drug, is boring " once the tale of encounter and discovery is told, kisses quickly grow stale and caresses tiresome... except, of course, to those who share the kisses, who give and take the caresses while every sound and color of the world seems to deepen and brighten around them. As with any other strong drug, true first love is really only interesting to those who have become its prisoners.
And, as is true of any other strong and addicting drug, true first love is dangerous."
Stephen King, Wizard and Glass

These are just some thoughts...

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Would really love some comments...really hoping there will be no judging here.😳

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Posted: 10 years ago
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It's not about moving on from first love. It's about moving on to a sister and that too an identical twin sister.

Rehan-Seher, I and others mentioned back when it happened that it wasn't developed and it wasn't believable that he *didn't* see Sanam in her when he fell for her. Maybe after falling for her, then he began to view Seher as Seher, but his process of falling for her was due to Sanam. You see it in the say he kept having flashbacks of her till he didn't suddenly and had daydreams and staring sessions at Sunheri. It's not that it couldn't have been shown better with him falling for Seher...it could've been much better handled and shown. But the way it happened, no he definitely did fall for Seher due to Sanam.

Then the writers wanted us to forget Sehan-Sanam. I said this during AaHer days that the broke bangle scene with Rehan and AaHer would be the last it would be acknowledged, and in that scene it was only subtly acknowledged.

Next was only when Aahil felt bad about kicking him out of the house--but the reason not spoken or bothered with. While this is natural to not mention it, it's also indicative that audience shouldn't remember the reason or forget it, whatever.

Then Rehan's death...see the flashbacks they used for Sanam-Rehan and it shows even more. (But to be fair here, Aahil-Rehan flashbacks could've been better and used some older ones which had nothing to do with Sanam--like where he told Aahil he was a good man, etc.)

Anyway. Even with all of this taken into account...Shaad-Jannat crossed much further than Rehan-Jannat. and I can see how some can accept Rehan-Seher but not Shaad-Seher.

In the end, it doesn't matter.

I don't see Shaad-Seher happening. If it does, it shows how little it's about Seher--and I'm not just talking about the CVs here.

Edited by KhatamKahani - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Soup šŸ¤—
U r back here again with ur amazing insightful post ... U know how i love reading, commenting n discussing with u 😳


Okay its a bit if continuation from our discussion the other day,only that we discussed Rehaan,

As i said previously too. I thought it was a grave injustice to Rehaan's character n the frst love he had fr Sanam , cz his was really the genuine n real love ... His feelings for her were really genuine, it was not like an infatuation,as was it passed on not only by the Writers but by some of his "fans" too, i thought that was an insult to the guy's pure feelings ...

I still remember during the dargaah sequence ( one of the most beautiful sequence ever in the history of QH, for me both the 1st AsYa meeting n SaHilAan dargaah sequence are at par) Rehaan said "Buhat baar apki chaukat pe sar jhukaya pr kuch manga nahi, aj mangta hun Sanam ko hmesha khush rakhen,mete aur Sanam k beech koi rishta to nahi phir b lagta hai aik dori se bandh gye haipr aaj ye hath uthen hain , vo paas hoti hai to dil ko sakoon milta hai, itne barso mein aj phli baar ehsas hua hai k is seene mein ek dil b haiab ye to tu hi janey k is dil ki dharkanen meri kahani ko kahan le jaati hain" so beautiful n poetic ... That was his "pehla nasha pehla khumaar" n was beautiful... The best thing they knew each other before hand, they shared a comfort level, they understood eavh other. That ws one love apart from SaHil that i could hv shipped. Cz it was relatable

So his first love was a special one , n it was given its due till they brought in the Sehaan angle, i never could get why his feelings fr Sanam werre never again heeded, it should hv been given a proper closure, why did they get brushed aside asere infatuation. One n only reason i could not connect with SeHan story despite being an open mind n neutral about it ...


Shaad... Okay will try to get as neutral as possible, see i never had any issues regarding Shaad falling in live with Sanam, he was destined to, n he had all the reason to fall in love with her, but the way he was shown falling in love with her so soon, that took away the charm, connectivity n relatable factor, they did not even have a meaningful talk, n he was in love boom, if they had shown some really meaningful scenes instead of cheap tactics of getting Him doing her blouse, i may hv found a connect, but its still quite indigestable fr me...
The concept was good , a man who had just duty as his first n firemost love n priority but how he gets charmed by a girl not belonging to her, i wish the execution was as good as it had seemed.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Lovely post CSšŸ‘
Hmm, first love?Can anyone forget? IMO, the idea of love itself changes from first to final, with many stops in between as we keep changing.
I don't know whether to call what Rehan felt for Sanam as love.If it was he couldn't have moved on or wouldn't have given up so easily.

Is Sanam Shad's first love? I don't know this either. Didn't he ever feel anything for the girl he was supposed to marry? Can he love Sanam w.o knowing Sanam?will he love Jinnat when she becomes Sanam?

I've concluded Rehan's love for Sanam as infatuation and Shaad's an obsession/delusion.


Edited by simran_singh_24 - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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I agree that true love is really difficult to forget but the way the love story of one sided love was shown in qubool hai did not actually make any sense. first rehan falls in love with sanam - some find it to be just a crush but it was actually the first time that rehan felt something for someone - then he sacrifices his love for his brother as soon as he realisea that his brother is also fallinv in love with sanam then he meets seher a look alike of sanam and instantly falls in love with her. It all felt like rehan did not love sanam as a person instead he loved her outer appearance more and as soon as he saw someone else like her he fell in love with her. I felt it to be unfair with seher. She never got to know that rehan was first in love with sanam and neither did sanam get to know about it.
in case of rehan many people feel that his love is selfish but what is wrong in loving a person with all your life and wanting the person you love to stay with you forever. I am sure every person who loves feels the same. I know in this case the situation is different as shaad does not know anything about jannats past but we should look from his POV also. To him jannat is his life. She is a woman who he fell in love with and he does not want to leave her.
Rehan love was pure but what happened after that made us question his love for sanam. In case of shaad it feels that his love is passionate. Maybe i am wrong but this is what i feel about all these situations.

No offence to anybody in here. This is exactly what i feel and i am not forcing anybody else to feel the same way.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: KhatamKahani

It's not about moving on from first love. It's about moving on to a sister and that too an identical twin sister.

Rehan-Seher, I and others mentioned back when it happens that it wasn't developed and it wasn't believable that he *didn't* see Sanam in her when he fell for her. Maybe after falling for her, then he began to view Seher as Seher, but his process of falling for her was due to Sanam. You see it in the say he kept having flashbacks of her till he didn't suddenly. It's not that it couldn't have been shown better with him falling for Seher...it could've been much better handled and shown. But the way it happened, no he definitely did fall for Seher due to Sanam.

Then the writers wanted us to forget Sehan-Sanam. I said this during AaHer days that that broke bangle scene with Rehan and AaHer would be the last it would be acknowledged, and in that scene it was only subtly acknowledged.

Next was only when Aahil felt bad about kicking him out of the house--but the reason not spoken or bothered with. While this is natural to not mention it, it's also indicative that audience shouldn't remember the reason or forget it, whatever.

Then Rehan's death...see the flashbacks they used for Sanam-Rehan and it shows even more. (But to be fair here, Aahil-Rehan flashbacks could've been better and used some older ones which had nothing to do with Sanam--like where he told Aahil he was a good man, etc.)

Anyway. Even with all of this taken into account...Shaad-Jannat crossed much further than Rehan-Jannat. and I can see how some can accept Rehan-Seher but not Shaad-Seher.

In the end, it doesn't matter.

I don't see Shaad-Seher happening. If it does, it shows how little it's about Seher--and I'm not just talking about the CVs here.


KK exactly the same way i hv felt about Sehaan, as i mentioned earlier too. It was so disconnected that how he eas one day seeing Sanam in Seher n the next day he was attracted to her n was giving looks , how can a thinking mind connect to that as beleivable... N the angle never acknowledged again...

Thays why i say, these writers arent capable of writing in depth such traingles n quadrangles, most of the times there "introduced angles" are fr the purpose of surprise factor in the story , so such " twists" are brought without proper thought n conviction n then the issues are never dealt with,

No wonder their main lead got #BhoolnekiBeemari n how she was so okay with it. Cz thats what the writers have been doing šŸ˜•
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: KhatamKahani

It's not about moving on from first love. It's about moving on to a sister and that too an identical twin sister.

Rehan-Seher, I and others mentioned back when it happens that it wasn't developed and it wasn't believable that he *didn't* see Sanam in her when he fell for her. Maybe after falling for her, then he began to view Seher as Seher, but his process of falling for her was due to Sanam. You see it in the say he kept having flashbacks of her till he didn't suddenly and had daydreams and staring sessions at Sunheri. It's not that it couldn't have been shown better with him falling for Seher...it could've been much better handled and shown. But the way it happened, no he definitely did fall for Seher due to Sanam.

Then the writers wanted us to forget Sehan-Sanam. I said this during AaHer days that that broke bangle scene with Rehan and AaHer would be the last it would be acknowledged, and in that scene it was only subtly acknowledged.

Next was only when Aahil felt bad about kicking him out of the house--but the reason not spoken or bothered with. While this is natural to not mention it, it's also indicative that audience shouldn't remember the reason or forget it, whatever.

Then Rehan's death...see the flashbacks they used for Sanam-Rehan and it shows even more. (But to be fair here, Aahil-Rehan flashbacks could've been better and used some older ones which had nothing to do with Sanam--like where he told Aahil he was a good man, etc.)

Anyway. Even with all of this taken into account...Shaad-Jannat crossed much further than Rehan-Jannat. and I can see how some can accept Rehan-Seher but not Shaad-Seher.

In the end, it doesn't matter.

I don't see Shaad-Seher happening. If it does, it shows how little it's about Seher--and I'm not just talking about the CVs here.


Wow!
I didn't expect so many comments actually. Thank U everyone.
I think I didn't seriously pay much attention to Sehaan...it was just a cute side story as far as I was concerned. Just wanted REhaan to find someone nice...and he did...and I had actually felt and written much before with the ring...The ring had two flowers in it...and I had felt that Rehan'd fall for the twin too- That too a lookalike of Sanam...so I was OK with it. Never botheerd about rightness of it...because of one thing- Rehan compared Sunehri with Sanam and rejected her first.šŸ‘ From then on actually his fbs of Sanam too disappeared...and then he started seeing Sunehri as an individual and fell in love with her as a new identity...The fact that he rejected her...and then loved her...(Not talking about the police incident here. Much before that...by teh end of Dhaba...he had started seeing Sunehri as a new entity...I felt they did that much justice to the story.)

Aaher, Rehaan and bangle?- Don't remember that one.

Shaad for Seher- If they plan on Season 4 with Seher, she will get a new guy.

If they want to give closure to Seher with Season 3- Shaad will be for Seher- This much is pretty clear to me.

I know one thing. If they plan on Seher's love story, they need to give her a proper write up from here...The character was superfluous to us...Many of us probably...Sehaan ended up being only as important as RaHa...That is why I want proper build up of Seher before they give her a love story.

Remember that movie with Aishwarya acting as twins...She makes up a virtual image to convince her fiance's grandma that she has a twin, since he has a twin who should be married to twins...utter rubbish story...For me, Seher ended up having only the depth of that virtual image...

But we diverged largely from the topic...

First Love- Sanam was both theirs...Would either of them claim they loved her more than the other? I suppose Rehaan 'd concede it was only infatuation...if so, if Shaad falls in love again, Sanam becomes just an infatuation?


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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: micshy

Soup šŸ¤—

U r back here again with ur amazing insightful post ... U know how i love reading, commenting n discussing with u 😳


Okay its a bit if continuation from our discussion the other day,only that we discussed Rehaan,

As i said previously too. I thought it was a grave injustice to Rehaan's character n the frst love he had fr Sanam , cz his was really the genuine n real love ... His feelings for her were really genuine, it was not like an infatuation,as was it passed on not only by the Writers but by some of his "fans" too, i thought that was an insult to the guy's pure feelings ...

I still remember during the dargaah sequence ( one of the most beautiful sequence ever in the history of QH, for me both the 1st AsYa meeting n SaHilAan dargaah sequence are at par) Rehaan said "Buhat baar apki chaukat pe sar jhukaya pr kuch manga nahi, aj mangta hun Sanam ko hmesha khush rakhen,mete aur Sanam k beech koi rishta to nahi phir b lagta hai aik dori se bandh gye haipr aaj ye hath uthen hain , vo paas hoti hai to dil ko sakoon milta hai, itne barso mein aj phli baar ehsas hua hai k is seene mein ek dil b haiab ye to tu hi janey k is dil ki dharkanen meri kahani ko kahan le jaati hain" so beautiful n poetic ... That was his "pehla nasha pehla khumaar" n was beautiful... The best thing they knew each other before hand, they shared a comfort level, they understood eavh other. That ws one love apart from SaHil that i could hv shipped. Cz it was relatable

So his first love was a special one , n it was given its due till they brought in the Sehaan angle, i never could get why his feelings fr Sanam werre never again heeded, it should hv been given a proper closure, why did they get brushed aside asere infatuation. One n only reason i could not connect with SeHan story despite being an open mind n neutral about it ...


Shaad... Okay will try to get as neutral as possible, see i never had any issues regarding Shaad falling in live with Sanam, he was destined to, n he had all the reason to fall in love with her, but the way he was shown falling in love with her so soon, that took away the charm, connectivity n relatable factor, they did not even have a meaningful talk, n he was in love boom, if they had shown some really meaningful scenes instead of cheap tactics of getting Him doing her blouse, i may hv found a connect, but its still quite indigestable fr me...
The concept was good , a man who had just duty as his first n firemost love n priority but how he gets charmed by a girl not belonging to her, i wish the execution was as good as it had seemed.


Mic,

@Blue- šŸ‘ This declaration was even more beautiful than Shad's- Ofc, there is no comparison...

Because as U said, THEY RUSHED IT...as even Shaad fans will agree...and it looked like empty words...at least to me.


I admire the way you have balanced your post- AMAZING.šŸ‘

THANK U.😳
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Posted: 10 years ago
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I disagree, Soup. He fell for her first due to Sanam not for Sunheri herself. He didn't reject her, he kept her around and was lenient with her due to remembering Sanam. Otherwise he would not have put up with many things and would have been more on guard. All throughout he saw Sanam flashbacks, and him stopping with the flashbacks and giving mooney eyes and stares and daydreams happened simultaneously.
If there were a gap in between the end of flashbacks and him starting to give mooney eyes, it would be one thing. But that was not the case. In my opinion, he replaced one with the other.

Now after his replacement, one can say he fell for Sunheri/Seher as herself. But initially his falling for her was as a Sanam replacement.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: simran_singh_24

Lovely post CSšŸ‘

Hmm, first love?Can anyone forget? IMO, the idea of love itself changes from first to final, with many stops in between as we keep changing.
I don't know whether to call what Rehan felt for Sanam as love.If it was he couldn't have moved on or wouldn't have given up so easily.

Is Sanam Shad's first love? I don't know this either. Didn't he ever feel anything for the girl he was supposed to marry? Can he love Sanam w.o knowing Sanam?will he love Jinnat when she becomes Sanam?

I've concluded Rehan's love for Sanam as infatuation and Shaad's an obsession/delusion.



Your last line- can't really shake it off...though I am still impressed by Mic's view.😳

Thank U for putting it across...bluntlyšŸ˜‰...but I really appreciate honesty.😊

Sanam is Shaad's first love...He refused to marry Misbah...He never wanted a girl complicating his call to duty.

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