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Posted: 10 years ago
#41
Mandy.
Thats why I commented below again.
People don't all look at it the way we do...

And even among people not liking Shaad's character- there are Shaad lovers and Shaad haters.

His true fans are upset at this depiction. Because he is not what they expected when the story started out.

Too much of love or hatred is bad...anything in excess will give indigestion- Blind LOve, Blind hatred..BOTH..wrt Shaad.

THats why I stand (try to) on neutral ground.

Shaad is not a hero...He is not a villain either. This much has been promised by the script to me. If it makes me feel like I felt for REhaan, down the line...I will feel bad for him and move on.

Because I know that at the end of the day, He has not been written like Tanveer or Faiz. THERE ARE LOOPHOLES FOR HIM.

He is BLIND...one day he will open his eyes and see and feel bad and make amends. Till that day, he will continue making mistakes.😊 (May be he will even get to the point of being obsessed about Jannat...but I feel they will not repeat Faiz here...they will want a new twist to Shaad...and that will most likely be only positive.)

U watched Geet?
How did U feel about Maan's brother being forgiven? (I thought it was justified.)



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Posted: 10 years ago
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@Soup:
I never saw Geet. But I heard about that Maan's brother forgiven part, and some fans said they thought it was disgusting! So I guess opinions are divided! But since I never saw the story, I dont know how I would have felt.

As for Rehan? Yeah, not coming clean with Aahil was always a sticking point. It always worked against Rehan's character. Not telling Seher about how he liked Sanam? Also, not a good move. But then they gave him the death of a hero, and made him the Hero of Season 2. I actually liked him a lot, with his flaws, coz I understood his dilemma. Tanveer was his Mother and the bond of a parent and child is not easily broken! It's a very grey issue. We sometimes stay loyal to our parents, even when they DON'T deserve it. Both Rehan and Aahil stayed loyal to that piece of trash! Two boys who's lives she ruined and who's love she NEVER deserved! The tragic story of Tanveer and her two son's was the biggest drama of Season 2 and the story I loved the most. Even though I loved SAHIL and even SEHAN, AHAAN and their wretched Mum was the actual drama of Season 2.


As for Shaad? Hero he is not. Villain? Only time will tell. Psycho? Not at this stage. But living in "pretend universe?" Yes. Too much poetry? Yes again. Even though he is an Army man, I think he has a very dramatic, theatrical side which he must have got from his Mum. It appears he has difficulty differentiating between Real and Fake? How he has now abandoned ANY moral dilemma about keeping this girl trapped shows me that he can easily forget what is right and wrong for his convenience! Those are signs of an unhinged mind. I honestly don't think he is quite "there!". Because how he just "Fell" into this pretend husband thing almost head first, and then started to "Believe" it, indicates to me that he has some issues he needs to resolve!


More than Shaad, the excusing and white washing of his actions offends me!

Edited by MrDarcyfan - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Did u forget how sehar was made sanam infront of aahil nd how he used to get romantically close to her.if seher wasn't in love with rehan they would have even shown a sisters triangle I guess with seher also falling for aahil.what I meant to say was that QH is always showcasing pathetic relationships which ethically are not correct nd watching such pairs also make u feel disgusted.shaad till I saw the episode was tryin to find aahil I guess but now according to discussions here it seems he has turned his decision of finding aahil nd give jannat her family.I seriously think what will be sanams reaction after her memory is returned will she be able to forgive herself thinking she stayed with another man as his wife.I don't thinl there was any need of pak track they would have shown sanam in Indian itself trying to find her identitu doing some chef job nd meets aahil coincidentally nd again falls for him.there love story would have been renewed.and her knowing that he is married to witch nd guilty feelings ,passion,angst,pain etc the track could have been soo intrrsting nd v would have got soo much off sahil 🄱
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: MrDarcyfan

@Soup:

I never saw Geet. But I heard about that Maan's brother forgiven part, and some fans said they thought it was disgusting! So I guess opinions are divided! But since I never saw the story, I dont know how I would have felt.

As for Rehan? Yeah, not coming clean with Aahil was always a sticking point. It always worked against Rehan's character. Not telling Seher about how he liked Sanam? Also, not a good move. But then they gave him the death of a hero, and made him the Hero of Season 2. I actually liked him a lot, with his flaws, coz I understood his dilemma. Tanveer was his Mother and the bond of a parent and child is not easily broken! It's a very grey issue. We sometimes stay loyal to our parents, even when they DON'T deserve it. Both Rehan and Aahil stayed loyal to that piece of trash! Two boys who's lives she ruined and who's love she NEVER deserved! The tragic story of Tanveer and her two son's was the biggest drama of Season 2 and the story I loved the most. Even though I loved SAHIL and even SEHAN, AHAAN and their wretched Mum was the actual drama of Season 2.


As for Shaad? Hero he is not. Villain? Only time will tell. Psycho? Not at this stage. But living in "pretend universe?" Yes. Too much poetry? Yes again. Even though he is an Army man, I think he has a very dramatic, theatrical side which he must have got from his Mum. It appears he has difficulty differentiating between Real and Fake? How he has now abandoned ANY moral dilemma about keeping this girl trapped shows me that he can easily forget what is right and wrong for his convenience! Those are signs of an unhinged mind. I honestly don't think he is quite "there!". Because how he just "Fell" into this pretend husband thing almost head first, and then started to "Believe" it, indicates to me that he has some issues he needs to resolve!


More than Shaad, the excusing and white washing of his actions offends me!


Mandy,

It is enough that U have not painted him a hero or a villain.

He does have some issues to be resolved...That is all.

I want only one outcome from this for Shad- For him to connect with his father.šŸ‘ Because he is not getting THIS girl any way.

Geet- I didn't watch it either. But I have seen that miniscule scene where he repents for marrying Geet and getting her pregnant and deserting her...He really repented...and THAT WAS ENOUGH FOR ME...It was enough for Geet...to fight with Maan over apparently. She wanted him to forgive him too.

So..I am with Sanam on this...as in everything else. She decides...and I am hundred percent behind her in any decision she makes..AS SANAM (Not Jannat)

Will wait to see how she tackles this ugly truth.šŸ‘šŸ¼
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: farru786

Did u forget how sehar was made sanam infront of aahil nd how he used to get romantically close to her.if seher wasn't in love with rehan they would have even shown a sisters triangle I guess with seher also falling for aahil.what I meant to say was that QH is always showcasing pathetic relationships which ethically are not correct nd watching such pairs also make u feel disgusted.shaad till I saw the episode was tryin to find aahil I guess but now according to discussions here it seems he has turned his decision of finding aahil nd give jannat her family.I seriously think what will be sanams reaction after her memory is returned will she be able to forgive herself thinking she stayed with another man as his wife.I don't thinl there was any need of pak track they would have shown sanam in Indian itself trying to find her identitu doing some chef job nd meets aahil coincidentally nd again falls for him.there love story would have been renewed.and her knowing that he is married to witch nd guilty feelings ,passion,angst,pain etc the track could have been soo intrrsting nd v would have got soo much off sahil 🄱



What you have suggested actually makes "sense!". So WHY would these CV's use it? They just want to show morally bankrupt things. Like two brothers marrying the same girl. (Ayaan by accident marrying Zoya and then having to divorce her so she can marry Asad).

Haya marrying Faiz through MU and then getting divorced, marrying Rahat and then thinking it's a Halala nikah so "going" to Faiz for revenge! Then all the sick stuff that happened with Faiz kidnapping and hiding Haya, and trying to kill Rahat.

Seher taking Sanam's place as Aahil's wife. Yes because she was in love with Rehan, thankfully she didnt fall for Aahil and sister "triangle!". Nasty!

Now this army con with amnesia victim. Aahil stuck with un-dead Chudail! THESE are the brilliant ideas that come out of the minds of these CV's! I wonder what they smoke? LOL
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Posted: 10 years ago
#46


Soup šŸ‘šŸ¼ i just reading ur perpective, its always so much fun n insightful at the same time...

I dont know why but i always ebd up quoting u n reply u cz i love having a discussion with u 😳

About Rehan, ditto. I hv liked Rehan, but have never gone crazy fr him, he was a character that was here since the beginning so the emotional attachment is one cause, secondly he was also not the goody guy as he was initially portrayed ... He had his share of character flaws n weaknesses, n i accepted those as his character weakness like every body has but still liked him despite those weaknesses , just like Aahil ( they r poles apart but still both r dear though i love Aahil n only like Rehan)

The fact that he was in love with Sanam is a fact that was not dealt with n was brushed asode fr the sake of another romance, a big big reason i was not able to connect to SeHan love story ... Why it was passed on to as infatuation??? I never got, what we saw Rehan's feelings n intentions regarding Sanam were genuine so it shoukd hv been given a proper closure... Ok he might have not seen Sanam in Seher n he loved her fr what she was but that should hv been depicted. One day we were watching him rememberibg Sanam by looking at Seher and the next day we saw him giving "loooks" to her , thats not how u conbect with a romance. Then his feelings fr Sanan were never brought out i would hv personally loved if Rehan befire confessing to Seher had told her about Sanam but that was never given importance so i was never able to connect with their story, i found them cute afterwards but simply could never feel the way fr them like i wiuld hv felt fr a couple madly in love with each other

Him leaving fr Dubai, well that was again a silly move by the writers ... Domething that cannot be related to...

Rehaan's death was although so heartbreaking but a poetic justice , ,,, write up was great cz it was "the best n most horrible punishment" for Tanveer, getting her kill her own son the one fr whom she has actually claimed to do everything ... N then getting mad fr it, that was the best punishment fr her.

But due to AG's insistence fr thr change of track this brilliant write up was wasted... I know KV gas been blamed by all n sundry fr the change of the tracks regarding season 3 but it was infact AG who put her foot forward n dint want to play a mad character. So she asked the majers to let the character tanveer die n she be brought back as a fresh character.. Thats how season 3 came into existence , ,,,,,, SaHil wrre never their priority n Shaad has come on as a collateral damage,


The whole premise of season 3 has been laid on a wrong foundation... Shaad n SK are the poorly etched out characters cz honestly theres no base to them, neither they appear relatable ...
All of this was done to glorify AG n her character once more...

Thats what i hv concluded from all this drama...
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Posted: 10 years ago
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SheAish , mandy and soup other thing i hv realized is that these writers are not capable of writing a "grey shaded character" eithet they write up total white or total black ... When they tried to write "Grey" they could not do justice ...
So i know either Shaad will be totally glorified by the writers n all his doing brushed aside or he will turn into a total villianous character .
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Posted: 10 years ago
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@soup,
But not all of us are SeHan fans. šŸ˜† Only a few are.

I think most of those replying here never understood SeHan in the first place.

Anyway I'm not bothered. I don't think we'll be subjected to rehash like last time.

PS. I was a Rehan lover. Loved Rehan, but not SeHan.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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@Mischy:
Yes I also think Season 3 came about because AG didn't want to play "Mad" Tanveer paying for her crime of killing her son! So they brought her back as SK, her daughter! Then they thought why not have an "obsessed major" after her. (Like Les Miserables where Javert is after John). Even though here SK IS a real criminal. So they brought Shaad in, and decided to make him a "third angle" of the SAHIL story as well! Kill two birds with one stone. Bring Sanam to Pak where she meets Tanveer's daughter and her obsessed hunter!


I know some like to "think" Season 3 was about Shaad and non existent Jannat! But that is NOT the case. Shaad is also a player in a wider game and the game was always SK! AKA Amra! But unfortunately for the CV's, this track had too many holes for it to succeed without a stronger story. (which it did not have). So they had to get KV back and strengthen THAT story for the overall story to even work!


Coz Amra as SK is NOT connecting the way Amra as Tanveer did. Poor characterization for both SK and Shaad. We really dont even know what to make of them most of the time! Match made in heaven! No wonder SK wanted to "marry" him! Like Mr & Mrs Smith. Marry the person you are hunting! LOL
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: micshy



Soup šŸ‘šŸ¼ i just reading ur perpective, its always so much fun n insightful at the same time...

I dont know why but i always ebd up quoting u n reply u cz i love having a discussion with u 😳

About Rehan, ditto. I hv liked Rehan, but have never gone crazy fr him, he was a character that was here since the beginning so the emotional attachment is one cause, secondly he was also not the goody guy as he was initially portrayed ... He had his share of character flaws n weaknesses, n i accepted those as his character weakness like every body has but still liked him despite those weaknesses , just like Aahil ( they r poles apart but still both r dear though i love Aahil n only like Rehan)

The fact that he was in love with Sanam is a fact that was not dealt with n was brushed asode fr the sake of another romance, a big big reason i was not able to connect to SeHan love story ... Why it was passed on to as infatuation??? I never got, what we saw Rehan's feelings n intentions regarding Sanam were genuine so it shoukd hv been given a proper closure... Ok he might have not seen Sanam in Seher n he loved her fr what she was but that should hv been depicted. One day we were watching him rememberibg Sanam by looking at Seher and the next day we saw him giving "loooks" to her , thats not how u conbect with a romance. Then his feelings fr Sanan were never brought out i would hv personally loved if Rehan befire confessing to Seher had told her about Sanam but that was never given importance so i was never able to connect with their story, i found them cute afterwards but simply could never feel the way fr them like i wiuld hv felt fr a couple madly in love with each other

Him leaving fr Dubai, well that was again a silly move by the writers ... Domething that cannot be related to...

Rehaan's death was although so heartbreaking but a poetic justice , ,,, write up was great cz it was "the best n most horrible punishment" for Tanveer, getting her kill her own son the one fr whom she has actually claimed to do everything ... N then getting mad fr it, that was the best punishment fr her.

But due to AG's insistence fr thr change of track this brilliant write up was wasted... I know KV gas been blamed by all n sundry fr the change of the tracks regarding season 3 but it was infact AG who put her foot forward n dint want to play a mad character. So she asked the majers to let the character tanveer die n she be brought back as a fresh character.. Thats how season 3 came into existence , ,,,,,, SaHil wrre never their priority n Shaad has come on as a collateral damage,


The whole premise of season 3 has been laid on a wrong foundation... Shaad n SK are the poorly etched out characters cz honestly theres no base to them, neither they appear relatable ...
All of this was done to glorify AG n her character once more...

Thats what i hv concluded from all this drama...


Mic,

Thank U ..We are totally on the same page wrt Rehaan. Again, I am just thankful that the romance there was fast paced...the heart break is that much less for me...I could easily look forward to another love story for Seher.

As for the story being written for Amra- I don't buy it. It may look like that- that the vamps are being celebrated...but there is no way they are going to write it for Amra...Nor for KV or even SJ.

Actors don't decide the script.

If AG wanted out, they could have easily carried on with Additi...and even a new actress as the daughter...or it could be a boy..😊

When I look at season 3-


What I see is a lot of adultery perhaps.

It has started with Shaad hooking up with someone else's sweetheart.

It might progress on to two committed people developing feelings for each other...despite their best efforts..šŸ˜†...let us see.🄱

They are taking forever to start the story..and IPL is there till May 24!😔

Frustrating!😭



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