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Jiyaaa.....

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Posted: 10 years ago

#31

Good post.

Couldn't agree with you more! You topic captures everything that I wanted to say.

I just wanted to comment on this part

"She is pretty much living with him as his wife, sharing a room and a whole host of other intimate compromising situations that would naturally arise between a husband and wife...( except for sleeping on the same bed)...He has been shown to lap up everything else on offer by her.."

When Jannat started doubting Mishab looking at her odd behavior, I was thinking why Jannat never doubted Shaad that he is not her husband?

Answer is really simple. Shaad is behaving more like Jannat's real husband rather than Sanam/Jannat accepting him as her husband. Here is the difference. Shad's behavior is with full consciousness, where as Sanam's acceptance to him is because of her memory loss.

From what have have seen so far, he doesn't mind touching her or getting close to her. I was surprised to see last week's episode when Sanam was sleeping and he came to wake her up. He wasn't hesitant to touch her. When someone behaves this way, why on the earth Sanam/Janat will doubt that he is not her husband?

Another question ..How are we sure that Shaad is not sleeping on the same bed? I don't remember any scenes where they showed Shaad sleeping in the separate room or Jannat asking questions to Shaad for sleeping in a separate room. Looking at Shaad and Janat comfort level viewers can assume anything.

This is where I can say that story of amnesia women and stranger calling her as his wife is handled very poorly.

How sad that they are showing romantic angle to this.

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Rashmi

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Posted: 10 years ago

#32

Originally posted by: Jiyaaa...
Good post.

Couldn't agree with you more! You topic captures everything that I wanted to say.

I just wanted to comment on this part

"She is pretty much living with him as his wife, sharing a room and a whole host of other intimate compromising situations that would naturally arise between a husband and wife...( except for sleeping on the same bed)...He has been shown to lap up everything else on offer by her.."

When Jannat started doubting Mishab looking at her odd behavior, I was thinking why Jannat never doubted Shaad that he is not her husband?

Answer is really simple. Shaad is behaving more like Jannat's real husband rather than Sanam/Jannat accepting him as her husband. Here is the difference. Shad's behavior is with full consciousness, where as Sanam's acceptance to him is because of her memory loss.

From what have have seen so far, he doesn't mind touching her or getting close to her. I was surprised to see last week's episode when Sanam was sleeping and he came to wake her up. He wasn't hesitant to touch her. When someone behaves this way, why on the earth Sanam/Janat will doubt that he is not her husband?

Another question ..How are we sure that Shaad is not sleeping on the same bed? I don't remember any scenes where they showed Shaad sleeping in the separate room or Jannat asking questions to Shaad for sleeping in a separate room. Looking at Shaad and Janat comfort level viewers can assume anything.

This is where I can say that story of amnesia women and stranger calling her as his wife is handled very poorly.

How sad that they are showing romantic angle to this.

Yes. Completely true,. The man is NO ONE to her and is behaving like EVERYTHING! He is not her husband but a COMPLETE STRANGER, but he is behaving like a husband. What should she make of this? What should she think about it? I felt even Sanam's character was also changed along with the memory loss! I mean he was about to marry some other girl and she accepted it so easily and excused him.

But after, he just shifted his obession from SK to Jannat and is just selfish and is doing what he wants and the point is they are showing this as romantic! That's where the cvs fail.

Even, I had the same question? Because, Jannat never asked him.

Even in Aaher track Seher had the sense to maintain some distance and they showed her guilty also. Whereas this man acts in that way completely just to make her believe that he is her husband. But, then he just takes decisions of her life being a NO ONE to her and then terms it as Love and then there are no emotions of any guilt.

The cvs have completely failed this. And no they can't reverse the situation by making him good again because we can't connect to him then.

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Mandy

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Posted: 10 years ago

#33

@DarlingPinks:

Fact is Shaad is not "good" at all! He has already been shown as someone who would use an amnesia victim for his benefit! It was always about him! His case, him getting out of an unwanted marriage and now HIS so called Fraud love! Fact is, he is an obsessed character that has like you said now DECIDED to shift his obsession from SK to Jannat! HE decides what is good for her while not even knowing her REAL name!

That is why I say he is a criminal, and no better than a kidnapper! He deserves to be punished with the full force of the law, for how he has exploited and used this girl with memory loss for his OWN ends! The CHEAP way he comes into the room and sits on the bed and acts like he is her REAL husband? He is no different to someone like Sanam2 who just wants to "get" Aahil by hook or crook even if he wants it or not! They are both frauds and both equally villainous! I don't think there is ANY chance of redeeming him now! Too late for that!

As for pairing him with Seher as some wished? NO way! Why should she end up with an Army officer who is actually a crim? Lol. He would not know REAL love if it hit him on the head! So there is NO way he "loves" this girl at all! He is actually unstable, and not that different from Faiz!

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KhatamKahani

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Posted: 10 years ago

#34

Mandy, He's even more developed as an unstable character than Faiz ever was.

Faiz turned psycho on the drop of a hat and stayed psycho. This guy, we've actually see the progression and it's not unbelievable at all.

Hell, I would even support him getting treatment in some facility as punishment. .

But nooo, we know none of this will be acknowledged or addressed. Forget punishment, even if his actions and the gravity of the situation were be addressed, I would accept. But of course even that won't happen.

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Rashmi

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Posted: 10 years ago

#35

Originally posted by: MrDarcyfan
@DarlingPinks:

Fact is Shaad is not "good" at all! He has already been shown as someone who would use an amnesia victim for his benefit! It was always about him! His case, him getting out of an unwanted marriage and now HIS so called Fraud love! Fact is, he is an obsessed character that has like you said now DECIDED to shift his obsession from SK to Jannat! HE decides what is good for her while not even knowing her REAL name!

That is why I say he is a criminal, and no better than a kidnapper! He deserves to be punished with the full force of the law, for how he has exploited and used this girl with memory loss for his OWN ends! The CHEAP way he comes into the room and sits on the bed and acts like he is her REAL husband? He is no different to someone like Sanam2 who just wants to "get" Aahil by hook or crook even if he wants it or not! They are both frauds and both equally villainous! I don't think there is ANY chance of redeeming him now! Too late for that!

As for pairing him with Seher as some wished? NO way! Why should she end up with an Army officer who is actually a crim? Lol. He would not know REAL love if it hit him on the head! So there is NO way he "loves" this girl at all! He is actually unstable, and not that different from Faiz!

Shaad never cared about anyone other than himself- self centered and calculated man with no emotions. He didn't care for his father, misbah(though fake) he left a girl at alter, it could have been the real misbah, family- no Jannat- no. I was literally shocked when he said to his father he was being a good husband! I say first be a good human then go for husband, because you don't know what value a human's identity is. Aahil atleast knows Sanam2's true face but Jannat is in a trap- a very bad one and she herself doesn't know that she is kidnapped!

I would never want him to be paired with Seher? Why Seher? He doesn't deserve anyone. So, it would be a straightaway no for me.

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chicksoup

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Posted: 10 years ago

#36

Very nice post.

Thankfully, I have been able to shut out Shad- I understand why U R not able to and why it gets U to react like this.

I hope I can write something non controversial...but I guess when I try to speak my heart, it might get a little that.

Leave Shaad, let us look at REhaan first.

Did the CVs not fail Rehaan too to an extent?- a very small extent actually. But how'd Seher feel if she knew after years of marriage that her husband had fallen for her sister first?- Even got her a ring.

May be that can be brushed off as an infatuation...but the fact is he dreamed about his wife's sister romantically...Now, this is why I HONESTLY don't have an issue with Rehaan dying. .He failed Seher twice. Once by not mentioning what SAnam meant to him and second time when he deserted the twins and walked off to Dubai, knowing fully well what his mother was capable of...and he didn't even expose Tanveer to Ahil.

So I mourned REhaan's death...for the death of a brother who couldn't redeem himself...but he actually REDEEMED himself by dying for Ahil. It was very beautiful and poetic and sad.

Now this whole forum may react violently to the makers and feel cheated out of a love story, but as far as I am concerned, there are better things written for SEher.

So, to me, REhaan's death was justified- SOME THINGS ARE NOT MEANT TO BE- and I cried for the death of a beloved friend and brother- Not a lover.

Coming to Shaad.

I loved the way U put everything in perspective, including HOW PEOPLE CAN DROOL OVER A MAN HUGGING ANOTHER MAN'S WIFE...I have not been able to get it from the start of this Pak story.

At first I was told that Shaad does not know about Sanam's past- this after her very first lines were that someone loved her very very dearly. And soon that followed with him knowing for sure and envying that man who was a recipient of Jannat's affections.

By now Shaad knows what he is doing is not right, though he tries to keep a distance for name sake...and We know. Jannat does not- that makes her act like a fool...and I simply decide to ignore her...though deep down I wish she knew...and tried to pursue those feelings in her gut...she is distracted currently, so I will give her points for being selfless...as selfless as Sanam always was.

AS for the fans drooling on Shaad- Jannat, I have simply decided to forego my criticism. I am not going to moral police any one.

If people want to drool over a WIFE allowing (RATHER FORCED TO ALLOW) a stranger to touch her and hold her in a WAY HE SHOULD NOT BE- If they choose to worship that, I AM WRONG TO CORRECT THEM- Because that is clearly moral policing.😳

This is a free world, and they have a choice to endorse whatever...whatever...🥱

It is hardly our jobs to knock sense into people when there is no definition for right and wrong anymore...U see it is all blurred and one whole mess.😆...And who says we are speaking sense? We could be speaking nonsense!😲

On that note, I will keep quiet and leave the story to the writers.

Whichever way they end it, Shaad will be glorified by his fans.

Just like REhaan is being.😆

And there is always two ways to seeing a thing...or more than two ways.

So long as you are happy with what U R seeing and enjoying...and it keeps entertaining U, nothing else should matter.😳

Very well written post again, Aish.👏

I feel for the content...Your personal experiences.

PS: I added one more comment below Mandy's post.

Edited by chicksoup - 10 years ago

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Mandy

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Posted: 10 years ago

#37

Originally posted by: KhatamKahani
Mandy, He's even more developed as an unstable character than Faiz ever was.

Faiz turned psycho on the drop of a hat and stayed psycho. This guy, we've actually see the progression and it's not unbelievable at all.

Hell, I would even support him getting treatment in some facility as punishment. .

But nooo, we know none of this will be acknowledged or addressed. Forget punishment, even if his actions and the gravity of the situation were be addressed, I would accept. But of course even that won't happen.

Yeah they turned Faiz into a nut in about 2 days! He used to be normal and we knew he was spoiled, but he didnt seem like a crazy guy or unstable! But then when he realised that his brother really loves Haya and is not about to give her up, his selfishness turned to obsession and need for revenge! He thought he would "Get" Haya in ANY way he can, and get back at his brother! But your right KK, they didnt build him up initially as an unstable guy. Just a spoiled and selfish guy!

But the first words Shaad's commanding officer tells him is "I hope you got over your SK Obsession!" So the word "Obsession" was used within the first 10 minutes of his intro! THAT should have been the first clue that we are looking at someone who will later turn Sanam into his "obsession!". So the clues were being given right from get go. If you wanted to see them you can. No matter WHAT he told his CO, he had NO intention of giving up his search of SK. At the time we thought that was a noble cause. But then we see how he is willing to sacrifice this displaced amnesia victim in his "quest" for SK. How he was willing to ditch Misbah at the alter, how he cared nothing for his Dad's respect or his family's!

Even though in a fit of guilt he tried to find out Jannat's true identity, as soon as HE realises that he wants her for himself, he changes his mind! (ALL while knowing for sure she is in love with another man). That shows how selfish and self serving he is! So how he has turned out to be, is EXACTLY how he always was! Selfish, obsessed and unhinged! The CV's always knew this! THEY made the mistake of trying to inject "cuteness" and "Nice guy romance routine" into this, so as to keep him looking "ambiguous". But they failed terribly because I say 75% of the audience can see him for what he is, and always did! Only a minority think of him as a "nice guy" who is stuck in his web of lies. Because the truth is, the lies were started by him and can only be ended by him! HE has decided to LIVE a LIE! So I think we all can see the writing on the wall. He is already negative!

Edited by MrDarcyfan - 10 years ago

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chicksoup

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Posted: 10 years ago

#38

One more angle I failed to mention.

Not everyone watches it for the depth of characterisation...They don't have the patience for that...and QH is trying.

They love the superficial charms of SEhaan and Shaajan and the looks of the actors...and don't want their brains eaten by twists after twists...Can hardly blame people for taking what they want...

I know for sure that I can connect with Ahil because of my personal experiences...with family and friends...My best friend and my favourite relative may not be able to proces Ahil. That is just the way they are wired...

After years of telling people to see things from a different POV to avoid conflict...I have realised that people will do simply what they want. If they want advice, they will come to U.

If they don't, they will keep making the same mistakes and U can only look on...and feel bad...and wish they got help...

Sorry, I got a little personal there...wrt real life...

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Posted: 10 years ago

#39

chicksoup,

Couldn't agree more. Thanks for putting my feelings into words. 😉 Wrt to everything.

That's why I initially said there's no use in beating a dead horse. 😆

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Mandy

@MrDarcyfan

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Posted: 10 years ago

#40

@Darlingpinks:

Yes, his lectures to his father about being a "good husband" is what I found most offensive about him. The hypocritical way he act "Holier than thou" in front of his Dad saying "Jannat meri Biwi hai" while knowing full well it is a total fabrication? I cant believe that he is not one jot regretful at how he lies to his father? Not one bit of remorse? It's shocking. How he has the gall to keep a perfect stranger in his room, lying to his Father's face daily? How much duplicity you must have in you to do that?

@Soup:

Yes it seems that celebrating and also "enjoying" the depictions of a women who is being lied to and taken advantage of, is someone's "prerogative" coz anyone can SHIP anything! So it is up to us to not care about that, and also not have an opinion about how we feel about that! Coz that is moral policing, and THAT is very very wrong! But having no feelings towards a girl who has no choice but to live as a wife to a fraud? That is very very right and we should ALL feel it's right! To each their own Soup! You know C'est La Vie!

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