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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: GitaIyer

A two year old girl, alone, orphaned, separated from family...

Living on the streets, with Shishupal and Rosy ...Conning, deception, burgalry and deceit is what she has seen and learnt...

And she is just applying what she has learnt...

She tried to change for love, but her past came calling.

Now she has decied to live for money, again her past comes calling.

She didn't have Dilshad to teach her kindness. She didn't have Asya to teach her sacrifice. She didn't grow up with Sanam, to see her face life head on, with head held high. She has seen only crooks.

When the time comes for her to learn and unlearn, she will. But, its a long road ahead.

You know what, CVs, should've shown one fb of her past. it is much needed to understand and get connected to her character.

Asad's fb of Rashid dragging away Ayaan, connected us to Asad.

Ahil's fb of his abbu beating him connected us to Ahil.

Cvs need to show Seher's immediate past before moving towards her distant past..



Go fan#2! Preach! <33
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Posted: 10 years ago
#72

ITs time I get upgraded to the top slot.😆
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Posted: 10 years ago
#73

Originally posted by: GitaIyer


ITs time I get upgraded to the top slot.😆

Neveeerrr! Well with comments like these you can share the slot with me! 😳😆
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Posted: 10 years ago
#74

Originally posted by: SurbhikiPankhi

Neveeerrr! Well with comments like these you can share the slot with me! 😳😆

Qh is so wonderful. See, its teaching us sharing.
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Posted: 10 years ago
#75

Originally posted by: KhatamKahani


Yo, I didn't say anything against your excuses on why she is the way she is. And before you come at this line too, I am responding to exactly how you phrased it in your first two lines. I didn't call them excuses. I didn't attack you either, I responded to your reply to me. That is it.

I simply responded to the arguments which tried to make her ACTIONS something which they were not. I didn't make it personal, and instead of saying why you think those ACTIONS are indeed something else, you start to talk about objective and subjective opinions. We are all giving opinions, obviously! The same way you state Seher is wrongly compared to Tanveer, I stated Seher's ACTIONS are made into something they are not--she is not some thief/conartist who only targets 1) rich people 2) other con artists 3)people who deserve it.

There is a difference. I never said anything about her background and how she grew up.

I responded to your trying to lessen Sunheri's action at the dhabba by putting the blame on the dhabawala. And after I did that, you responded by saying you have no idea what I'm talking about, and talking about how my points didn't make sense.

Did I get hurt when you said my point didn't make sense or say anything like "personal attack" "what makes sense to one person is subjective and not objective." No, I don't care. But if I had said that to you, you would take it as a personal attack going by your replies.

What I called excuses were the act of putting the blame on Sunheri's con victims to try to lessen Sunheri's culpability of her crimes and actions. Dhabawallas are conmen too, you say. So what? How is that an excuse for what she did to a Dhabawala? Sanam should have been constantly cheated by her customers too. And it would be fine. Dhabbawalas con and cheat people too. So this Dhabawali (or maybe it is different because it's a dhabawali) can be cheated by customers. They are excused.

Anyway I am done here. I've said it. Anyone reading the posts can see what I've done and haven't done. :) I won't explain myself further.



It's been a long day and I am tired so I am not going to go too much in depth with my reply.

This is my last reply to your post..hence forth, I am going to ignore whatever you say because I already gave the reason why. So let me make my stand one last time. You yourself called me out on giving excuses and now you say you didn't say anything about them. And you did attack my post by making points specifically to my reply. You don't want to see any redeeming qualities in Seher, it's your choice. I don't. I try to put myself in the other person's shoe before judging them. Your past makes you what you are and Seher has not had a very good one. In all the vamps in QH, Seher is nowhere close. She is not a vamp, plain and simple. Sure, she is a grey parallel lead now but in the future she will get more positive. Family as a whole tends to mellow a person and make them more loving. Right now Seher is alone. She has always been alone. She was never shown what is right and wrong. The wrong was put forth as the right for her. The only thing she was taught was stealing and conning.

You seem to be very very very attached to the dhabbawala and his plight. I firmly believe in whatever happens, happens for the best. Maybe this was his payback. Not giving excuses..but an explanation of how I process it. You don't have to agree with me and I am not really bothered if you do. I see how you people gloat everytime Sunehri is hurt. Maybe she conning him was his karma. Just because we weren't shown his lifestory, doesn't mean he was a gem of a person. Not every dhabbawala is like Sanam. Anyway I hope that's the end of the dhabbawala record because it's getting quite ridiculous..this dhabbawala discussion.

And I didn't get hurt. I was infuriated due to being targeted by you for simple stating my POV. You don't agree with it, that's your perception. I don't agree with your outlook and that's my decision. Humans are not black and white..believe it or not..we all have shades of grey. Sunehri is no different. With time, she will grow and become more positive but meanwhile I am not going to hate on her just because she is not a typical Indian TV heroine who is ridiculously saccharine.
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Posted: 10 years ago
#76
I have read all the belief of this post...and I respect everyone opinion even if I am not agree with it because my opinion is MY opinion and if someone tell me that I am wrong...yes I am wrong in your perception of the situation but not in MY perception of it...that does'nt means I think that this person is wrong just because she/he thinks differently of me about the situation...no for me she/he is right in her/his opinion...and I am glad that I can debate with she/he...😉
Everyone has the right to do what he thinks is right ...Sunheri is doing what she thinks is right for her BUT on the other side I have the right to say that what she is doing is wrong once again in my perception...

So Saying that...

A fact is a fact...I can understand the action of a person and say...yes she/he did it because she/he has her/his reason/belief/opinion and I respect that...But I can never support this person if what she/he has done is wrong from MY perception/opinion...even if all think that I am wrong...and THE FACT that for ME Sunheri is wrong...not because of her being a thief...that is a fact and I can not change it or judge it...it for the autority to deals with it...I'm not a juge😆...
But what I means by that Sunheri is wrong...that she is wrong in the CONTRIBUTION of the kidnaping of SANAM and playing with the emotion of Ahil knowing that Ahil thinks she is Sanam...yes it was Razia plan but Sunheri said yes to the plan...and in saying yes Sunheri CONTRIBUTE...she became a partner in the kidnaping...that is a fact...And in the other part she makes fun of the love of Ahil whereas she said herself that she is in love with Rehan...sorry if anyone is not agree...but for me she is being inhuman...what I mean by INHUMAIN is not being ALIEN but she is gradually switch to the dark side of an human being...for me Humans are not black and white...but Humans have a side black and a side white...and which side you choose to be in , it's up to you to choose...and Sunheri she chose her side the moment she agrees to replace someone else's wife...and in the process hurt the feelings of an innocent AHIL...know whether or not the person is not excluded from having feelings of remorse or any other feeling and here she has none...and making fun of a loving husband if a person doesn't know what is love or she/he doesn't discover it yet can be funny to watch...but making fun of love knowing exactly the result of a broken heart...sorry again but for me it's nastiness...personnaly I like the nastiness when its use is justified...in front of Taanver the nastiness is justified because Sunheri know exaclty what kind of people is Taanver (she tried to kill her)...but making fun of Ahil's love...I don't find it justified because until now AHIL doesn't give her any reason to mock him...

Honestly Sunheri could have been a great character if the CV have developed his character smartly...I speak knowingly because I already enjoy watching character (thief/criminal/ vamp...) in other show...because they have been so well-built that you could only take an interest in them and in their activities...(once again in my opinion)

😆 Well I think I have said all what I wanted...if something is missing I will post it 😉


Rajae🥱


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Posted: 10 years ago
#77
Sunehri's character is still in the making. We know NOTHING about what she went through and what she had to face to become what she is today. The glimpse of she eating from the trash was a blimp on the radar. Life on the road is hard..even for an adult. Can you imagine what a child must have went through? There are people, actual people who use such children for begging ring. It's a type of a gang where they make the child beg. If the child doesn't get so and so amount in a day, he or she is badly beaten up or punished. They cut off the child's hand or legs or something to make them more pitiful so that people give them money. This is not some fanciful notion. It's reality. You have no idea..none what horrors are on the street. Add child predators, murderers, people who force such children in prostitution, human trafficking and what not to the list too. In all of the children that Billi screwed over with her evilness, Seher suffered the most. So yes, she deserves to be the one to take revenge on her. Yes, Sanam suffered, Aahil suffered, Rehan suffered but Seher was hit the worse. If you guys can understand Ahil and his childhood abuse than why so harsh with Seher? She was abused even worse. Doesn't she deserve some understanding. Or is it only because she is instrumental in Saahil separation, she is beyond redemption and worse than Billi? Don't you think that's unfair?

About the kidnapping. Yes, it was wrong BUT you see... She didn't know that she was going to be swapped. She had no choice but to go through with it. She didn't know she will be a party in an kidnapping. Sanam was already kidnapped when Seher was pushed in her stead. This was not her active choice. The decision and the deed was done for her without her knowing.

Now she could have refused. Ok..say she would have. Sanam was still kidnapped. What would have that gotten her? Seher is already wired to think about her and only her because of her childhood. The only person who melted her was Rehaan and even he didn't give her a chance to give her side of explanation. It only reinforced her thinking that it's only man for himself. Don't care about anyone else. Sanam and Ahil are nobodies to her. She doesn't know them. She doesn't care for them. It doesn't matter what happens to them. And she mocked even Rehaan before she fell for him. It's not only for Ahil. You need not get so enraged over that. That's how she is. She mocks and makes fun and is brutally honest with her thought process and her Bappa. And remember Razia didn't know Saahil are in love. All she knew is that they disliked and even hated each other. The marriage was a contract. How was she to tell Seher that Aahil is madly in love with Sanam and vice versa? She didn't know she will be playing with his feelings. She was pushed into the game, she can't do anything but see it through.

I'm not saying this track makes sense. I myself would have played it way differently. Made Seher enter the house with Rehaan and made Billi handle both the sisters as a unit but this is an Indian show and logic is the enemy here. Indian shows always always opt for dramatization.

Would I call Seher inhuman? No. Because she isn't. If she was then she would have used Ahil a heck of a lot more to get what she wanted and not try and keep her distance with him. She tries to spare his feelings all the time too. Just because she mocks him a bit doesn't make her inhuman either. If that's true than everyone in this forum is inhuman too because I've seen a lot of mocking posts about other characters. She also doesn't know how Sanam is being treated. She has only been in the house for 2 days. For all she knows Sanam is fine and dandy but just locked up. Why should she give a thought to a stranger? And she does want to finish this job ASAP and get out so that Sanam can take her rightful place again.

Seher is also not like Billi. I don't really get this reasoning at all. Seher still has feelings and a conscience. She tries to kill them but they keep rearing and making her mellow. Billi had none whatsoever for anyone or anything. Heck, even Rehaan is just a puppet in her hands. I don't think that woman actually loved him. Even the actress playing Billi accepted that.

I am not claiming that Seher is the most lovable character and totally without faults but every human being has fault. You can't hate a person just because he/she does a mistake. If Ahil was not beyond redemption after what he did to Sanam then why not Seher? I do believe Ahil was worse with Sanam before he fell for her. But he was still loved. Why such vitriol hatred only for Seher? It hardly seems fair.
Edited by In-Sanity-Triv - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
#78

Originally posted by: In-Sanity-Triv

And remember Razia didn't know Saahil are in love. All she knew is that they disliked and even hated each other. The marriage was a contract. How was she to tell Seher that Aahil is madly in love with Sanam and vice versa? She didn't know she will be playing with his feelings. She was pushed into the game, she can't do anything but see it through.



Everyone and anyone watching the show as a whole knows that Razia knew SaHil are in love.


And since I've already posted, I'll say what I had not bothered to use a post on earlier. Tanveer's actions are justified with karma too. Everything she's done is for a reason. All those she killed, happened for a reason and they deserved it in some way or another. Had it coming.
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Posted: 10 years ago
#79

Originally posted by: KhatamKahani


Everyone and anyone watching the show as a whole knows that Razia knew SaHil are in love.


And since I've already posted, I'll say what I had not bothered to use a post on earlier. Tanveer's actions are justified with karma too. Everything she's done is for a reason. All those she killed, happened for a reason and they deserved it in some way or another. Had it coming.



I don't know what is watching the show as a whole. 🥱

And the reply is expected.
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Posted: 10 years ago
#80

Originally posted by: KhatamKahani


Everyone and anyone watching the show as a whole knows that Razia knew SaHil are in love.


And since I've already posted, I'll say what I had not bothered to use a post on earlier. Tanveer's actions are justified with karma too. Everything she's done is for a reason. All those she killed, happened for a reason and they deserved it in some way or another. Had it coming.


Hold up!
Phew, there are some looonnnggg comments on this post!
I will eventually check them, sorry.

But yeah, Razia definitely knew SaHil were in love. She's the one that told Tanveer about it and made her all insecure about the property and divorce, asking what would happen if they decided they wanted to stay together instead of getting divorced.

More replies later ;)

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