Sunehri... Random rant 23.10.14 (Nt, Pg 4) - Page 6

Originally posted by: KaanKeNiche

I wasn't referring to you darling. 😆 I know you were comparing because of their childhood...

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Shubh Mubarak to you too!

Originally posted by: In-Sanity-Triv

A sensible post, a rarity on IF for sure. LOL. I've never been surprised by Sunehri's behavior. Her character tangent was very well explained and portrayed. She is a conwoman who just lost her only reason to turn around her life and start anew with a honest partner.

This is so true. He was the only reason. But that's been shot to hell now. I still feel like in her mind, perhaps this is her "last job" and before she saw him, she'd made up her mind to take the money and run. Like, maybe he inspired her to be better? Except that a leopard doesn't change its spots that easily, and this is seen with her as she laments over Rehan not recognising her. Still, it's all about her.

She is bitter and want to go back to the remorseless Sunehri that she used to be. I said remorseless though, not heartless because as much as she wants, she does have an inkling of conscience in her. She doesn't take up a job that she feels is wrong and can hurt someone. You have to accept that she only con's really really rich people. People who can easily refill their riches again. When she almost robbed a middleclass man, her conscience made her back off and she replaced his phone and his wallet back in his car. The dhabbawala can earn 500 rs back, no problem. Was it wrong, yes but is it unforgivable? No. Dhabbawala's are no gems themselves. They are crooked too and they have to be to earn. It's like conning a conman. As a person who has a family member in the catering business, believe me when I say, I know how much they con. LOL.

Haha, thats funny. I don't know though. I think she does only what suits her. It's consistent with her character. Look, they have to show her having a slight conscience, otherwise they'd never be able to redeem her to the viewers who are mightily pissed off right now.

I agree that she hasn't given a thought to Sanam and why should she? It's a job. If you get a new job, will you wonder and worry about the person who was fired before you took over their job? But yes, this is her sister. But she doesn't know that yet. She doesn't feel the connection yet. Give her time.

I have to admit though that QH has been the most mind numbingly slowest show on Indian TV so far and I have watched an Ekta show. I thought her shows were slow but QH takes the crown.

People can't claim Sunehri is worse than Tanveer right now just because she doesn't care about Aahil and Sanam. I know people like SaHil and they have an emotional attachment to the couple but lashing out on Sunehri is not going to change anything because she has nothing to feel bad about. she knows nothing about these people. Why should she care?

Originally posted by: rakshaanra

I did not compare Ahil with Sunheri

All I pointed out was she is being bashed as she is a gray character. It's stereotypical that the Indian heroine should be chaste and vir$/n before marriage and above all not a theif or co woman

Bharti Naari should be caring nurturing and selfless, like Sanam

Forgive me for I don't like stereotypes coz the world is not plain black and white, gotta lot of gray in it

Originally posted by: KaanKeNiche

I did not say you did. 😛

Do you expect grey characters to be praised? 😆

Umm I don't think anyone brought in the chastity/virginity thing in here before you. As for being a thief/conwoman, I don't think anyone has a problem with that too.

Also, people in the real world do judge/criticise grey characters too. How do you expect it to be any different here? I don't understand where the stereotype angle fits into this.

No one said Sunehri should be like Sanam.

Originally posted by: manip1

ur pint is right

Originally posted by: Tamara27

For now, we know more about her than she knows about herself. She's a con woman, and she's doing a job. No questions asked. In her "profession", a conscience is nothing but a liability.

She may be heartbroken over Rehan, and isn't at all thinking of her Doppelganger or Aahil, but let's be honest. She grew up on the streets - a dog eat dog world. Each man for themselves, and all that.

She only knows this life. She's probably been alone for most of hers, and so she's accustomed to think of herself only. Horrible as it may seem to us as the viewers, that's probably the rationale behind her character, and the selfish way she's behaving.

Seeing Sunehri behave gaga over some ice and the promise of a million bucks always reminds me of a line from a movie I love, Madame Sousatzka. It was about a piano teacher, older English lady, and her student, a young, talented Indian boy - the son of Indian immigrants to England.

When the teacher made fun of his single mother for always behaving as though she had dollar signs in her eyes whenever money or the promise of wealth was discussed, the student's reply was one that has always always stuck with me.

"It's important to her, because she's never had any"

The same could be said of money, love or many other things.

Sunehri has none of these.

She had love for a while, but she lost it because of her natural habit of lying (Yes, she was about to tell Rehan the truth, but she waited too long).

Now she's being promised something else she's never had - money. And not just a small amount a common criminal and petty thief could gain.

This time, it's a professional's fee.

If only she actually thought about why she was being offered such a huge amount simply for standing in place for someone else...?

My goodness! This was such a ramble

I partially agree with you about Sunehri😊

Yes she may had a hard life because she grew up on streets and she had to watch over herself
and I can find her sympatic BUT she can't finding excuses and says that she steal people just because she is doing a job...
for me it's just that she choose the easy way to make money and she can't blame life because she didn't have anything, it's once again HER CHOICE OF LIFE because she is not a kid anymore who live in streets and who had to survive SHE IS AN ADULT and she can rationnaly choose the way she wants to live and SHE CHOOSE TO BE A THIEF whereas she can find a job to earn money (she is good in opening lock and in english and most imprtant she is able to work)...
It's just my personal opinion, I don't hate Sunehri but I don't like her either ( while I love SJ) but I can't find a character interessting if he doesn't give reasons for...all show that I loved, it takes me times to love the characters ( MAANEET/ ARSHI/ AZYA and now SAHIL)...But for Sunehri her character is wrecked for me the day she cheats the owner of dhaba...


In fact I find it's interessting to see that everyone in this forum has a different opinion and that what I like that you can debate about life choice on a fiction character and wonder what will be your reaction if this character is in front of you in real life ?😉

PS : sorry if it not comprehensible my english stuck 😳

Originally posted by: ploydome

I partially agree with you about Sunehri😊

Yes she may had a hard life because she grew up on streets and she had to watch over herself
and I can find her sympatic BUT she can't finding excuses and says that she steal people just because she is doing a job...
for me it's just that she choose the easy way to make money and she can't blame life because she didn't have anything, it's once again HER CHOICE OF LIFE because she is not a kid anymore who live in streets and who had to survive SHE IS AN ADULT and she can rationnaly choose the way she wants to live and SHE CHOOSE TO BE A THIEF whereas she can find a job to earn money (she is good in opening lock and in english and most imprtant she is able to work)...
It's just my personal opinion, I don't hate Sunehri but I don't like her either ( while I love SJ) but I can't find a character interessting if he doesn't give reasons for...all show that I loved, it takes me times to love the characters ( MAANEET/ ARSHI/ AZYA and now SAHIL)...But for Sunehri her character is wrecked for me the day she cheats the owner of dhaba...


In fact I find it's interessting to see that everyone in this forum has a different opinion and that what I like that you can debate about life choice on a fiction character and wonder what will be your reaction if this character is in front of you in real life ?😉

PS : sorry if it not comprehensible my english stuck 😳

Originally posted by: Tamara27

That is true, too. She could've made other choices, but chose not to. And yes, a horrible childhood doesn't mean that your entire life be ruined, but that's the thing I find about Sunehri. I think though she comes across as tough, mentally she's actually quite weak.

She has taken the easy road, that's for sure, but I also wonder how many street kids actually go on to live successful, crime-free lives. Its a survival mechanism, I guess.

I'm not saying it's right, just that it is the way it is.

I remember that scene at the dhabba, and I also remember thinking at the time, why do that?

I guess it was a quick chance at a few bucks to tide her over for the next few days or so. Like I've been saying, she is inherently selfish.

P.S. I understood you perfectly 😉

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Honestly when Sunehri was introduced I was like : "I will watch and see if she will be an interesting or not " what I mean by INTERESTING is not that she have to be a good character...no for me even a villain can be INTERESTING...but Unfortunately the CV has ruin her character and now she is just another meaningless because she fail to have human qualities and flaws as CURIOSITY...because yes she is doing a job and it's understanding but even the worse selfish character wonder about his current situation...here I don't expect that Sunehri to feel guilty because for her it's a job BUT as a human I expect from her that she wonder about the person she replace and for me the CV fails to make Sunehri an intersting character here...

PS : I know I speak a lot 😆

Originally posted by: Tamara27

There's no one worse than Tanveer on this show, ever since she stepped in. We all knew that day she hugged Asad for the first time that she was going to be trouble. Only... no one could've predicted how much bloody trouble!

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Ah, I never really watched QH 1. I only started watching QH recently but yes there can be no one worse than Tanveer so I am amazed when some people compare Sunehri to her. I hope you don't mind but I want to share my thoughts on Sunehri since your topic covers her, I don't see a need to make a new one. And honestly, I have never seen such a closeminded prejudiced forum lol.

First of all, QH2 is about the sisters so Seher is not a side character. She is a lead too..a parallel one, I may agree to that but no less than that. Do you ever see side characters in the montage? You get your answer easily. Seher's story was put on hold so as to build the plot to where her entry would make a bang. They wanted to build up SaHil first and show Rehaan's crush on Sanam. That will play a huge role in Sehan in the future, I am sure.

Seher is not evil. She is a con woman but she has a conscience. She doesn't rob middleclass or poor people. I have already explained the Dhabbawala point. I don't see any point in her thinking about Sanam. She is already in a pickle: fighting off Billi, hiding from Aahil, trying to do her job, her heartbreak from Rehaan and seeing him almost 24x7 here. Why in the world should she give a thought to Sanam? She knows how kidnapping works. Sanam must be locked up somewhere..maybe drugged. It doesn't take a genius to figure that out. What in the world should she be curious about? (And I do believe that she will figure out where Sanam is and rescue her when she comes to know that they are sisters) And it's laughable that Sanam fans are giving this excuse to dislike Seher more. She is not human because she is not curious. LOL. Curiosity killed the cat, ever heard of that? When you are at such a con job, you shut up, keep your head down, don't ask many questions, do your job and leave. Simple as that. Not being curious does not make you an alien. And her detachment is also because she doesn't know Sanam is her sister. She thinks she's just a doppelganger. The problem here is that the audience and fans know the deal but the characters don't. I once had a conversation with an author and I told her about my frustration when reading a certain part of a book and being annoyed that the heroine couldn't piece the puzzle. It was obvious to the readers but the characters were in a blank. And the author told me. You knew the backstory, but the character didn't know everything, weren't you being impatient and hasty? Humans are complicated creatures, sometimes you cannot see what is in plain sight. I think that logic implies here too. People around us can know something about us before we do.

About she deserving Rehaan's dismissal. She deserves it. I agree absolutely. He made it clear to her to never lie to him and not to break his trust. But she did it anyway. She took too long to come clean. But she doesn't deserve being demeaned in front of someone else. His words were harsh but then Karma is a female doggie person. LOL. I do believe his words are going to bite him back too.

Now Billi. Why is Seher fighting Billi? She has nothing against her. Sanam should fight her instead. Ok, first of all, Seher is acting like Sanam. She cannot go to Billi and say "Time please. You continue when Sanam comes back. I am not Sanam so I won't participate in your evil game." She has no choice but to fight back. The blind chick tried to stab her, she couldn't close her eyes and say, "I am ready to be stabbed." Seher was raised on the street, unlike Sanam who was raised with love, in hard times but still with love. She doesn't know anything but fighting and surviving. And about Seher hurting a blind helpless old woman. LOL. Did you not see the dagger that was about to enter Seher if she hadn't fought back?

Another thing people seem to be forgetting is that she was raised by two people. One is a prostitute who had wanted to turn her into a prostitute too. I believe reading such an article on TC. I firmly believe that Seher was only supposed to steal small time wallets and stuff before she was trained as a prostitute. I am sure, that was the plan but that changed when she showed that she can steal big bucks by conning people. We haven't really been shown her backstory much, so don't be hasty in judging her that she could have stopped conning when she grew up. We don't know yet what made her continue. Maybe it was a stipulation that it was either conning or prostitution. OR maybe it was the simple fact that conning people was all she knew. We don't know yet.

Wow that is long. Sorry about that. LOL. Thank you for taking the time for reading it if you managed to read it through. 😆

I am not in a mood to go too into this. But I just want to say a few things regarding Sunheri's conscience of robbing.